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Lairen 01/15/21 2:54:54 PM #1:	FF1-10 at least but many many more. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949535870] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>FF1-10 at least but many many more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 01/15/21 2:55:32 PM #2:	grinding for xp so you can one shot enemies is not strategy or fun either I like turn based games with limited xp and encounters so what you do actually matters --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:949535897] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>grinding for xp so you can one shot enemies is not strategy or fun either I like turn based games with limited xp and encounters so what you do actually matters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lzual 01/15/21 2:58:51 PM #3:	ThyCorndog posted... grinding for xp so you can one shot enemies is not strategy or fun either I like turn based games with limited xp and encounters so what you do actually matters and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind. <cite>lzual posted [p:949536007] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>grinding for xp so you can one shot enemies is not strategy or fun either I like turn based games with limited xp and encounters so what you do actually matters</quote> and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:00:20 PM #4:	lzual posted... and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind. People bitched about Final Fantasy XIII because it is it is inherently not a very good Final Fantasy game. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949536056] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>lzual posted... </cite> <quote>and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind.</quote> People bitched about Final Fantasy XIII because it is it is inherently not a very good Final Fantasy game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Wreath 01/15/21 3:01:01 PM #5:	You ever play Xenosaga 2? --- https://imgur.com/aL6pmIo https://imgur.com/D8kQXbe <cite>Vampire_Wreath posted [p:949536072] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>You ever play Xenosaga 2? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 01/15/21 3:03:31 PM #6:	lzual posted... and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind. I feel like that has more to do with XIII being hell-bent on giving you no freedom whatsoever. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:949536158] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>lzual posted... </cite> <quote>and yet peoples bitched at FF13 for not letting you grind.</quote> I feel like that has more to do with XIII being hell-bent on giving you no freedom whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dingydang166 01/15/21 3:03:58 PM #7:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... People bitched about Final Fantasy XIII because it is it is inherently not a very good Final Fantasy game. To be fair people have bitched about every single FF since 7. 8 was nothing like 7 therefore BAD. 9 had a weird artstyle that made it kiddie therefore BAD. 10 had laughing scene where people misunderstand the context therefore BAD. 11 online game therefore BAD. My favorite though will always be: FF12 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S TOO OPEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FF13 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TOO LINEAR HALLWAY SIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA <cite>Dingydang166 posted [p:949536169] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>People bitched about Final Fantasy XIII because it is it is inherently not a very good Final Fantasy game.</quote> To be fair people have bitched about every single FF since 7. 8 was nothing like 7 therefore BAD. 9 had a weird artstyle that made it kiddie therefore BAD. 10 had laughing scene where people misunderstand the context therefore BAD. 11 online game therefore BAD. My favorite though will always be: FF12 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S TOO OPEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FF13 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TOO LINEAR HALLWAY SIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 01/15/21 3:04:36 PM #8:	2021 and people don't realize these two easy to understand things 1. Any game summed up in a sentence sounds stupid. 2. People like different things for different reasons --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:949536188] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>2021 and people don't realize these two easy to understand things 1. Any game summed up in a sentence sounds stupid. 2. People like different things for different reasons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:05:08 PM #9:	Have you ever noticed thats 7 is really easy? --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536210] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Have you ever noticed thats 7 is really easy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 01/15/21 3:07:30 PM #10:	Lairen posted... Have you ever noticed thats 7 is really easy? Yup. I'd love these games to be harder but that's a separate issue. The game far from sucks and doesn't feel pointless. To be honest though I'm not a fan of replaying a game that's this long unless it's been years because the real meat is the story and you basically don't forget that. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:949536282] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Have you ever noticed thats 7 is really easy?</quote>Yup. I'd love these games to be harder but that's a separate issue. The game far from sucks and doesn't feel pointless. To be honest though I'm not a fan of replaying a game that's this long unless it's been years because the real meat is the story and you basically don't forget that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 01/15/21 3:07:38 PM #11:	Dingydang166 posted... My favorite though will always be: FF12 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S TOO OPEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FF13 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TOO LINEAR HALLWAY SIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I didn't know Too Open was a popular komplaint. lol, if SE made Final Hallway 13 just to spite such silly fans, I have to appreciate it now. --- https://imgur.com/PpxZDof \| https://imgur.com/xMGLcGE https://imgur.com/nsBw6Sy \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:949536285] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Dingydang166 posted... </cite> <quote> My favorite though will always be: FF12 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S TOO OPEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FF13 comes out: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TOO LINEAR HALLWAY SIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA</quote> I didn't know Too Open was a popular komplaint. lol, if SE made Final Hallway 13 just to spite such silly fans, I have to appreciate it now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:08:10 PM #12:	AzurexNightmare posted... 2021 and people don't realize these two easy to understand things 1. Any game summed up in a sentence sounds stupid. 2. People like different things for different reasons Its more pointing out just how much time is spent walking from point A to B getting into random encounters that youll just mash a button to basic attack through. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536302] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted... </cite> <quote>2021 and people don't realize these two easy to understand things 1. Any game summed up in a sentence sounds stupid. 2. People like different things for different reasons</quote> Its more pointing out just how much time is spent walking from point A to B getting into random encounters that youll just mash a button to basic attack through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 01/15/21 3:11:21 PM #13:	Go play Darkest Dungeon. You're welcome. --- Night will come and I will follow- For my victims, no tomorrow Koroks are f***ing stupid in every way, shape, or form. <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:949536394] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Go play Darkest Dungeon. You're welcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 01/15/21 3:15:26 PM #14:	The_Korey posted... I didn't know Too Open was a popular komplaint. lol, if SE made Final Hallway 13 just to spite such silly fans, I have to appreciate it now. It's not so much being "too open" as it was "the size of the areas brings the pacing to a crawl". And they didn't design FFXIII the way it is to spite fans. They did it in attempt to draw in the millions that solely play CoD, hence the major emphasis on flashy action. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:949536513] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>The_Korey posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't know Too Open was a popular komplaint. lol, if SE made Final Hallway 13 just to spite such silly fans, I have to appreciate it now.</quote> It's not so much being "too open" as it was "the size of the areas brings the pacing to a crawl". And they didn't design FFXIII the way it is to spite fans. They did it in attempt to draw in the millions that solely play CoD, hence the major emphasis on flashy action. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 01/15/21 3:17:44 PM #15:	Lairen posted... Its more pointing out just how much time is spent walking from point A to B getting into random encounters that youll just mash a button to basic attack through. I'm not going to blow your mind here but I'll tell you why I enjoyed them. Yes you could get away with mashing x most encounters but in some locations you'll get schooled by some enemies (first time reaching the area.) and here are some other things. The music, the story as you travel, the characters if you like them, random funny dialogue during fights, cool Aeon animations, just everything. Looking for treasures, mini games, enemy capture in X, converting monsters to cards. A lot of it can be seen as mindless but it's a time sink on purpose. It's just the way it is. Everyone knows what they're in for when they buy these. Plus these games aren't turn based anymore so your complaints date back to the 90's and early 2000s. Do I wish they were harder? I'm with you man. But it's not boring either. I don't replay them either though lol I prefer games like devil may cry and SMT. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:949536583] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Its more pointing out just how much time is spent walking from point A to B getting into random encounters that youll just mash a button to basic attack through.</quote>I'm not going to blow your mind here but I'll tell you why I enjoyed them. Yes you could get away with mashing x most encounters but in some locations you'll get schooled by some enemies (first time reaching the area.) and here are some other things. The music, the story as you travel, the characters if you like them, random funny dialogue during fights, cool Aeon animations, just everything. Looking for treasures, mini games, enemy capture in X, converting monsters to cards. A lot of it can be seen as mindless but it's a time sink on purpose. It's just the way it is. Everyone knows what they're in for when they buy these. Plus these games aren't turn based anymore so your complaints date back to the 90's and early 2000s. Do I wish they were harder? I'm with you man. But it's not boring either. I don't replay them either though lol I prefer games like devil may cry and SMT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:18:23 PM #16:	To be fair, none of the FF games are perfect. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949536601] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, none of the FF games are perfect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:19:42 PM #17:	The cheats in FFVII pc port only enhance the experience. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536638] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>The cheats in FFVII pc port only enhance the experience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:21:27 PM #18:	Also TC not mentioning FFT is a big hindrance to his argument. Unless you purposefully break the game with Calculators, playing casually you need to pay real close attention even in random battles. Hell, especially in them at times. Fucking Chocobo's. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949536696] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Also TC not mentioning FFT is a big hindrance to his argument. Unless you purposefully break the game with Calculators, playing casually you need to pay real close attention even in random battles. Hell, especially in them at times. Fucking Chocobo's. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 01/15/21 3:21:54 PM #19:	Lairen posted... The cheats in FFVII pc port only enhance the experience. If all you want is story, I agree. I have a dumbass friend who hasn't beaten 7 yet (and we both played it in elementary school and are almost 30 today) because he's a fucking wussy who thinks it's too hard and can't be assed to play it. Does he turn on cheats? Nope because he says it doesn't feel right. And yet he bought ff7 on PS4 five years ago and only played it twice. What a fucking moron. And this isn't someone who doesn't like the game. He likes the characters. He's just a fucking pussy. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:949536707] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>The cheats in FFVII pc port only enhance the experience.</quote>If all you want is story, I agree. I have a dumbass friend who hasn't beaten 7 yet (and we both played it in elementary school and are almost 30 today) because he's a fucking wussy who thinks it's too hard and can't be assed to play it. Does he turn on cheats? Nope because he says it doesn't feel right. And yet he bought ff7 on PS4 five years ago and only played it twice. What a fucking moron. And this isn't someone who doesn't like the game. He likes the characters. He's just a fucking pussy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:22:37 PM #20:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Also TC not mentioning FFT is a big hindrance to his argument. Unless you purposefully break the game with Calculators, playing casually you need to pay real close attention even in random battles. Hell, especially in them at times. Fucking Chocobo's. Yeah if youre expecting the game to hand you a broken op character then youre right! --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536730] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Also TC not mentioning FFT is a big hindrance to his argument. Unless you purposefully break the game with Calculators, playing casually you need to pay real close attention even in random battles. Hell, especially in them at times. Fucking Chocobo's.</quote> Yeah if youre expecting the game to hand you a broken op character then youre right! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/15/21 3:23:42 PM #21:	The random battles in FFT are usually harder than the story ones. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949536758] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>The random battles in FFT are usually harder than the story ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:24:22 PM #22:	Lairen posted... Yeah if youre expecting the game to hand you a broken op character then youre right! Like at the 2/3rds point. Nobody is Cid levels of broken until that point. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949536779] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah if youre expecting the game to hand you a broken op character then youre right!</quote> Like at the 2/3rds point. Nobody is Cid levels of broken until that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:24:49 PM #23:	AzurexNightmare posted... If all you want is story, I agree. I have a dumbass friend who hasn't beaten 7 yet (and we both played it in elementary school and are almost 30 today) because he's a fucking wussy who thinks it's too hard and can't be assed to play it. Does he turn on cheats? Nope because he says it doesn't feel right. And yet he bought ff7 on PS4 five years ago and only played it twice. What a fucking moron. And this isn't someone who doesn't like the game. He likes the characters. He's just a fucking pussy. Many many hours of 7 are walking/random encounters or text dumps. When i first played the game i played it like 12 hours straight and passed out at kalms flashback. Woke up and kept playing some hours later. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536787] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted... </cite> <quote>If all you want is story, I agree. I have a dumbass friend who hasn't beaten 7 yet (and we both played it in elementary school and are almost 30 today) because he's a fucking wussy who thinks it's too hard and can't be assed to play it. Does he turn on cheats? Nope because he says it doesn't feel right. And yet he bought ff7 on PS4 five years ago and only played it twice. What a fucking moron. And this isn't someone who doesn't like the game. He likes the characters. He's just a fucking pussy.</quote> Many many hours of 7 are walking/random encounters or text dumps. When i first played the game i played it like 12 hours straight and passed out at kalms flashback. Woke up and kept playing some hours later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:25:44 PM #24:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Like at the 2/3rds point. Nobody is Cid levels of broken until that point. They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536820] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Like at the 2/3rds point. Nobody is Cid levels of broken until that point.</quote> They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 01/15/21 3:26:12 PM #25:	FF2 is not "just mash attack." FF1 depends on your party. Later games have systems that could be complex, but lack difficulty to really test them. The siper bosses in 7 are a good example of how fights could force you to strategize. Spinoffs like FFRK and hard hacks exist that really stretch the limits of the ATB system. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:949536841] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>FF2 is not "just mash attack." FF1 depends on your party. Later games have systems that could be complex, but lack difficulty to really test them. The siper bosses in 7 are a good example of how fights could force you to strategize. Spinoffs like FFRK and hard hacks exist that really stretch the limits of the ATB system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:26:22 PM #26:	I dont mind it. I actually enjoy it. I dont take the gameplay too serious. I play for the story and more challenging fights that require tactics. I dont mind turning my brain off during random encounters. Its what I grew up with so I guess that is what I will always like. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949536849] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>I dont mind it. I actually enjoy it. I dont take the gameplay too serious. I play for the story and more challenging fights that require tactics. I dont mind turning my brain off during random encounters. Its what I grew up with so I guess that is what I will always like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:27:09 PM #27:	Lairen posted... They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them. Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949536872] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them.</quote> Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 01/15/21 3:28:02 PM #28:	Lairen posted... They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them. Does anything in the game direct you to try this? --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:949536891] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>They hand you a free chocobo. Walk between 2 cities till you hatch a party of red chocobos. Sweep with them.</quote>Does anything in the game direct you to try this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:28:22 PM #29:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that. Like think? Every game is hard if you dont think. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536900] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that.</quote> Like think? Every game is hard if you dont think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:29:12 PM #30:	ChocoboMogALT posted... Does anything in the game direct you to try this? When you walk eggs happen.... If you think at all about this.... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949536923] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>ChocoboMogALT posted... </cite> <quote>Does anything in the game direct you to try this?</quote> When you walk eggs happen.... If you think at all about this.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:29:59 PM #31:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that. This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949536949] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Again, you are looking to break the game. Every single RPG ever made can be broken if you're gonna put in time to do something like that.</quote> This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:31:33 PM #32:	DepreceV2 posted... This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you. Strategy is not for rpgs? I AM playing them wrong.... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949537005] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you.</quote> Strategy is not for rpgs? I AM playing them wrong.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:32:07 PM #33:	Lairen posted... When you walk eggs happen.... If you think at all about this.... RPGs arent for you bro. Every RPG I can think of I can make extremely easy by grinding. However, I dont do that because constantly grinding isnt fun and steamrolling the game after that isnt fun. Go play Action-Adventure games or something. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537022] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>When you walk eggs happen.... If you think at all about this....</quote> RPGs arent for you bro. Every RPG I can think of I can make extremely easy by grinding. However, I dont do that because constantly grinding isnt fun and steamrolling the game after that isnt fun. Go play Action-Adventure games or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:32:27 PM #34:	DepreceV2 posted... This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you. Look at the most popular RPG's ever and all of them can be broken. How is it any different from something like Dark Souls? RPG - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours grinding levels to make it statistically easier. Dark Souls - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours fighting it over and over again grinding my own experience until I can beat it. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949537033] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>This. If you dont like being able to break an RPG then you should probably either not attempt to break it or not play an RPG. If you are going into every RPG trying to out level everything and get mad that you did that, then RPGs arent for you.</quote> Look at the most popular RPG's ever and all of them can be broken. How is it any different from something like Dark Souls? RPG - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours grinding levels to make it statistically easier. Dark Souls - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours fighting it over and over again grinding my own experience until I can beat it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:33:31 PM #35:	Lairen posted... Strategy is not for rpgs? I AM playing them wrong.... You need to impose self discipline to not grind the game out until it is super easy. If you cant do that then its not for you --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537075] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Strategy is not for rpgs? I AM playing them wrong....</quote> You need to impose self discipline to not grind the game out until it is super easy. If you cant do that then its not for you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:34:08 PM #36:	DepreceV2 posted... RPGs arent for you bro. Every RPG I can think of I can make extremely easy by grinding. However, I dont do that because constantly grinding isnt fun and steamrolling the game after that isnt fun. Go play Action-Adventure games or something. Ive not even listed grinding yet.... I was mistaken in thinking rpgs were hard though. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949537092] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>RPGs arent for you bro. Every RPG I can think of I can make extremely easy by grinding. However, I dont do that because constantly grinding isnt fun and steamrolling the game after that isnt fun. Go play Action-Adventure games or something.</quote> Ive not even listed grinding yet.... I was mistaken in thinking rpgs were hard though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:35:18 PM #37:	DepreceV2 posted... You need to impose self discipline to not grind the game out until it is super easy. If you cant do that then its not for you Its weird cause everyone insists im grinding. I guess theyre so easy anyone can grind. Real eye opener here.... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949537137] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>You need to impose self discipline to not grind the game out until it is super easy. If you cant do that then its not for you</quote> Its weird cause everyone insists im grinding. I guess theyre so easy anyone can grind. Real eye opener here.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:36:00 PM #38:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Look at the most popular RPG's ever and all of them can be broken. How is it any different from something like Dark Souls? RPG - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours grinding levels to make it statistically easier. Dark Souls - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours fighting it over and over again grinding my own experience until I can beat it. The difference is you are grinding mechanics in Dark Souls. In an RPG you are grinding stats --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537161] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Look at the most popular RPG's ever and all of them can be broken. How is it any different from something like Dark Souls? RPG - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours grinding levels to make it statistically easier. Dark Souls - This fight is hard. I'm gonna spend 2 hours fighting it over and over again grinding my own experience until I can beat it.</quote> The difference is you are grinding mechanics in Dark Souls. In an RPG you are grinding stats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:36:45 PM #39:	Lairen posted... Its weird cause everyone insists im grinding. I guess theyre so easy anyone can grind. Real eye opener here.... You mean anyone can make them very easy if they grind. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537185] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Its weird cause everyone insists im grinding. I guess theyre so easy anyone can grind. Real eye opener here....</quote> You mean anyone can make them very easy if they grind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 3:37:00 PM #40:	DepreceV2 posted... The difference is you are grinding mechanics in Dark Souls. In an RPG you are grinding stats It is still 2 hours spent to clear a hurdle. To suggest one is inherently "better" than the other is ridiculous. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949537191] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>The difference is you are grinding mechanics in Dark Souls. In an RPG you are grinding stats</quote> It is still 2 hours spent to clear a hurdle. To suggest one is inherently "better" than the other is ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:37:35 PM #41:	It makes me think of Muh Dry Breads pokemon challenges. They sound hard but they boil down to him grinding till he can beat the game. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949537215] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>It makes me think of Muh Dry Breads pokemon challenges. They sound hard but they boil down to him grinding till he can beat the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:37:49 PM #42:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... It is still 2 hours spent to clear a hurdle. To suggest one is inherently "better" than the other is ridiculous. Im never said one is better. Im saying they are different --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537227] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>It is still 2 hours spent to clear a hurdle. To suggest one is inherently "better" than the other is ridiculous.</quote> Im never said one is better. Im saying they are different </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:39:17 PM #43:	Lairen posted... It makes me think of Muh Dry Breads pokemon challenges. They sound hard but they boil down to him grinding till he can beat the game. All Pokmon challenges come down to grinding and luck unless the challenge has a level cap --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537273] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>It makes me think of Muh Dry Breads pokemon challenges. They sound hard but they boil down to him grinding till he can beat the game.</quote> All Pokmon challenges come down to grinding and luck unless the challenge has a level cap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/15/21 3:40:06 PM #44:	DepreceV2 posted... All Pokmon challenges come down to grinding and luck unless the challenge has a level cap Life is just grinding till you can beat it. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949537298] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote>All Pokmon challenges come down to grinding and luck unless the challenge has a level cap</quote> Life is just grinding till you can beat it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/15/21 3:41:59 PM #45:	Lairen posted... Life is just grinding till you can beat it. That... is pretty true actually. Grind until you win and enjoy the win or you run out of time before you win --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:949537355] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Life is just grinding till you can beat it.</quote> That... is pretty true actually. Grind until you win and enjoy the win or you run out of time before you win </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silver_stoner 01/15/21 4:07:08 PM #46:	There are plenty of rpgs that will not be easy if you just mash attack. --- I find your lack of underwear disturbing. <cite>silver_stoner posted [p:949538205] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>There are plenty of rpgs that will not be easy if you just mash attack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 01/15/21 4:18:38 PM #47:	Final Fantasy 8 Requiem Mod. You can thank me later. ;) --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>Trumble posted [p:949538603] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy 8 Requiem Mod. You can thank me later. ;) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 01/15/21 4:37:57 PM #48:	10 takes it a step farther by every random battle basically being turn-based rock, paper, scissors where you get to go first. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:949539243] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>10 takes it a step farther by every random battle basically being turn-based rock, paper, scissors where you get to go first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 01/15/21 4:43:36 PM #49:	The Legend of Dragoon <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:949539443] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>The Legend of Dragoon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/15/21 4:44:37 PM #50:	Payzmaykr posted... The Legend of Dragoon I guess Paper Mario games too. If you don't play their rhythm based combat properly you are boned --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:949539475] in Most turn ... [t:79240749]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>The Legend of Dragoon</quote> I guess Paper Mario games too. If you don't play their rhythm based combat properly you are boned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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