Current Events > Reminder that Hitler's failed Putsch wasn't even this "successful"

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RebelElite791
01/06/21 4:54:16 PM
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And ten years later he was the new chancellor

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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 4:55:21 PM
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Wait, what?

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RebelElite791
01/06/21 4:59:45 PM
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Chozo_Gunner posted...
Wait, what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

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electricbugs2
01/06/21 5:00:09 PM
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Just shut up

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Socrawheeze
01/06/21 5:00:46 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Just shut up
Fuck off
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RebelElite791
01/06/21 5:01:05 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Just shut up
Fuck off and go creep on some teens or whatever the fuck you do

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MrToothHasYou
01/06/21 5:01:15 PM
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Yeah the left needs to be arming itself pronto. Thats been true for a while but its crunch time now.

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Socrawheeze
01/06/21 5:01:34 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Kid shut the fuck up before I smash you out
I'd literally pay for your plane ticket lmao
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Were_Wyrm
01/06/21 5:02:26 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Kid shut the fuck up before I smash you out
At least buy him dinner first

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sondast
01/06/21 5:02:29 PM
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Hitler was also waaaaaaaaay healthier and younger.


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masterpug53
01/06/21 5:02:42 PM
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This was the thing that continues to bother me so deeply about that slice of history, since I went most of my life only knowing the bullet points of Hilter's rise to power and only learned the finer points within the last five years or so. Hilter led a failed bloody coup against the German government, and not only was he not executed or imprisoned for life over it, his sentence was only five fucking years.

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RebelElite791
01/06/21 5:03:12 PM
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sondast posted...
Hitler was also waaaaaaaaay healthier and younger.
I'm not saying Trump will be the leader in 10 years, if that's how you interpreted that.

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King_Hutton
01/06/21 5:04:05 PM
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lmao electricbug meltdowns are so fucking weird

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Smashingpmkns
01/06/21 5:04:16 PM
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10 years? This dumb ass country about to do a speed run
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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 5:04:42 PM
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ReggieBush09 posted...
So you think Trump is capable of this in america?

Adolf was different.

Trump just wants money.

Hitler wanted to wipe out an entire race.

How many MAGA people are racist as shit and likely want to do the same to minorities in America?

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indica
01/06/21 5:05:27 PM
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Interesting but not in any way related to today's events. The instigator was already in power...

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indica
01/06/21 5:06:27 PM
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ReggieBush09 posted...
So you think Trump is capable of this in america?

Adolf was different.

Trump just wants money.

Hitler wanted to wipe out an entire race.
Trump would wipe out a whole race for money

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ReggieBush09
01/06/21 5:07:41 PM
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I'll keep talking if I got the mods promise for immunity?

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Balrog0
01/06/21 5:10:28 PM
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What a weird topic to have a melty about

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ReggieBush09
01/06/21 5:11:30 PM
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he self deleted? heh heh heh.

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coh
01/06/21 5:13:15 PM
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What does Hitler have to do at all with Trump

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RebelElite791
01/06/21 5:14:58 PM
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coh posted...
What does Hitler have to do at all with Trump
What does an attempted fascist coup have to do with an attempted fascist coup

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BignutzisBack
01/06/21 5:15:39 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
This was the thing that continues to bother me so deeply about that slice of history, since I went most of my life only knowing the bullet points of Hilter's rise to power and only learned the finer points within the last five years or so. Hilter led a failed bloody coup against the German government, and not only was he not executed or imprisoned for life over it, his sentence was only five fucking years.

TIL

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Socrawheeze
01/06/21 5:15:40 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
What does an attempted fascist coup have to do with an attempted fascist coup
Aside from complain about women, literally all that guy does is enter topics to say "how is trump (bad)"

replace bad with racist, bigoted, fascist, etc etc
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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 5:17:22 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
This was the thing that continues to bother me so deeply about that slice of history, since I went most of my life only knowing the bullet points of Hilter's rise to power and only learned the finer points within the last five years or so. Hilter led a failed bloody coup against the German government, and not only was he not executed or imprisoned for life over it, his sentence was only five fucking years.

According to the wiki, he was only in jail for nine months. Jesus christ.

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masterpug53
01/06/21 5:28:12 PM
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Chozo_Gunner posted...
According to the wiki, he was only in jail for nine months. Jesus christ.

I'd always known the bare minimum about this era of his rise to power, which was that Hitler wrote Mein Kampf while he was in jail. When I much later found out about the Beer Hall Putsch and why he was in jail, I was floored that he somehow wasn't executed / life-imprisoned for a failed coup that left over a dozen people dead. But even still, I'd forgotten the details of his sentencing and subsequently checked the wiki due to this topic; the fact that his actual sentence was only five years is just plain aneurysm-inducing.

I believe the historical parallel to draw here is that the failure of the Weimar Republic to properly punish this upstart traitor led to something much, much worse down the road.

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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 5:32:46 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
I believe the historical parallel to draw here is that the failure of the Weimar Republic to properly punish this upstart traitor led to something much, much worse down the road.

I mean, one reason why we're in this mess now is because of the total failure that was Reconstruction.

That's why I feel like if there's nothing done when Biden becomes president, we're more than likely fucked.

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ReggieBush09
01/06/21 5:37:08 PM
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Chozo_Gunner posted...
I mean, one reason why we're in this mess now is because of the total failure that was Reconstruction.

That's why I feel like if there's nothing done when Biden becomes president, we're more than likely fucked.
his sons don't have his charisma.

He's already in his 70s I doubt he has the energy to do something like this.

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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 5:43:04 PM
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ReggieBush09 posted...
his sons don't have his charisma.

He's already in his 70s I doubt he has the energy to do something like this.

I don't think you understand. Trump set a precedent. If it's not Trump, it'll be some other MAGA, Q-Anon conspiracy-repeating, hateful idiot.

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ChocoboMog123
01/06/21 5:49:52 PM
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I was considering making a similar topic.

This isn't a unique event. This is how coups work. You sit at home playing video games while thousands of countrymen storm government buildings in an attempt to overthrow democracy. Usually it doesn't go well the first time, but those feelings fester, friction builds on both sides, and some years later you see people marching outside your suburb calling for a new dictator. That's what this is, literally an attempt to overthrow democracy. We're closer to Venezuela than WW2 Germany, but we're really testing our systems and pushing boundaries. In Venezuela, Maduro stacked the courts, gave them power over elections, and then gave them power over legislation, and we're only a few steps away.

We need to do much more than just jail a few violent protestors, insurrectionists, and domestic terrorists; we need to fix our system so that we don't have a repeat of this in 2024, 2028, and so on. Trump probably needs to be barred from ever holding office again, and we need to amend the Constitution to set clear guidelines for what happens when people reject fair elections.

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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 5:55:40 PM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
I was considering making a similar topic.

This isn't a unique event. This is how coups work. You sit at home playing video games while thousands of countrymen storm government buildings in an attempt to overthrow democracy. Usually it doesn't go well the first time, but those feelings fester, friction builds on both sides, and some years later you see people marching outside your suburb calling for a new dictator. That's what this is, literally an attempt to overthrow democracy. We're closer to Venezuela than WW2 Germany, but we're really testing our systems and pushing boundaries. In Venezuela, Maduro stacked the courts, gave them power over elections, and then gave them power over legislation, and we're only a few steps away.

We need to do much more than just jail a few violent protestors, insurrectionists, and domestic terrorists; we need to fix our system so that we don't have a repeat of this in 2024, 2028, and so on. Trump probably needs to be barred from ever holding office again, and we need to amend the Constitution to set clear guidelines for what happens when people reject fair elections.

You're not wrong but I think you're being way too optimistic. By the time we get our shit together to try doing any of that, we'll be way too late.


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alphagamble
01/06/21 5:56:17 PM
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Never a dull moment in the US

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dameon_reaper
01/06/21 5:57:10 PM
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indica posted...
Interesting but not in any way related to today's events. The instigator was already in power...

So was Palpatine.
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Rapid99
01/06/21 6:00:10 PM
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Don't mind me, just posting to recommend It Could Happen Here

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/

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harley2280
01/06/21 6:02:17 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Yeah the left needs to be arming itself pronto. Thats been true for a while but its crunch time now.

Americans* anyone supporting this power grab is an enemy of this country.
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MrToothHasYou
01/06/21 6:33:55 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Americans* anyone supporting this power grab is an enemy of this country.
If you think anywhere on the planet will be safe after the US succumbs to fascism then I have some potentially upsetting news for you. The left needs to be arming itself worldwide, especially because the left in the US (the actual left, not the Democratic Party) is still very much weak.

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Chozo_Gunner
01/06/21 6:40:18 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
If you think anywhere on the planet will be safe after the US succumbs to fascism then I have some potentially upsetting news for you. The left needs to be arming itself worldwide, especially because the left in the US (the actual left, not the Democratic Party) is still very much weak.

Yeah, America is one of the most powerful, influential nations in the world. We were the nation that led the whole rise of far-right conservatism and racial identity politics ffs. If the US becomes fascist, there are going to be so many other governments doing the same.

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ReggieBush09
01/06/21 7:19:41 PM
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so is WORLD War 3 a hundred years away or 50?

How long do we have til God prophecy comes true.

and countrys once again go at each other and god arrives in the heavens in the middle of when the war is looking like bad guy will win.

God appears on a horse and the rapture occurs and a 1000 years of death is upon the earth.

I don't know people say god doesn't exist but everything in relevations looks like it's not just thousands year of away but like less than a millienal away.

the earth only has a million years to live anyways so will be dead regardless.

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