Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1365

(+) Yeah! (+)

I just checked the front page of Game Spot and it's mostly game related stuff. I never really frequented the site outside of their character battles so I'm not sure how this compares to before.
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LeonhartFour posted...

and this has always been the big argument against fictional characters doing well here, and it's valid

(not to mention the strangely large amount of people who think we shouldn't have non-video game content on the front page of this website!)

That's one of the reasons I feel we should allow these characters in the Character Battle.

Because betting agaisnt them is a very viable strategy.

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I tried that excuse to drum up support for Dark Link. People don't care for it much. If they turn out to be strong, they crash the party. If they are weak, why did we add them in the first place?
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Has any site or platform younger than us done a character contest before? Curious how Gen Z would vote.

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https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/23/22291431/best-video-game-character-bracket-round-2

It begins.

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I've caught myself playing Triple Triad for some hours. Might be the best FF mini-game (competition isn't exactly the best). Simple but nice.

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So projected through Ms Pacman, Mario gets 97.5% on Sephiroth.

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squexa posted...

So projected through Ms Pacman, Mario gets 97.5% on Sephiroth.

he's trending in that direction here too...!

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Fox > Ryu is surprising.

Tails > Geralt you can at least chalk it up to old people not playing new games.

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charmander6000 posted...

Fox > Ryu is surprising.

Tails > Geralt you can at least chalk it up to old people not playing new games.

Well, based on how badly DK is beating Chun-Li, I think we can just chalk that up to SF not being as popular there as it is here.

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Question:

If we had an All Fictional Character Battle, would any of you be fine with the idea of Mike Tyson or Tony Hawk being in?

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Advokaiser posted...

Question:

If we had an All Fictional Character Battle, would any of you be fine with the idea of Mike Tyson or Tony Hawk being in?

I think most of us have been firm in the position of no real life people.

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Advokaiser posted...

Question:

If we had an All Fictional Character Battle, would any of you be fine with the idea of Mike Tyson or Tony Hawk being in?

They should not be. It only makes sense in The Ringer's battle because they're a sports website and Tyson, Hawk, Vick are important characters in sports games history. (Where was QB Eagles, though?)

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swirIdude posted...

They should not be. It only makes sense in The Ringer's battle because they're a sports website and Tyson, Hawk, Vick are important characters in sports games history. (Where was QB Eagles, though?)

Only one Tecmo rep and it had to be Bo

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What would Mike Tyson's contest strength be vs. Mr. Dream?

Would it be dependent on the match pic?

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Anyone want to run round 1 xstats for the ringer thing?

I imagine they would have to use in-game pictures for Mike Tyson (or any other real person).

Regardless, I imagine Tyson would crush Mr. Dream, I would take several other Punch-Out boxers over Mr. Dream

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Nobody likes Mr. Dream

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Anyone want to run round 1 xstats for the ringer thing?

Round 1 X-Stats are literally just the results

But we don't have combined vote totals anywhere so it's really not possible to do total X-Stats. I could do X-Stats for the main site + Twitter, but they wouldn't necessarily match the overall results.

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Because I'm a crazy person, I've done the math on the main page and Twitter and combined the results together. I'll do the same for round 2 and create some preliminary X-Stats.

Mushroom Kingdom Division

(1) Mario 34120 (96.65%)
(16) Clementine 1183 (3.35%)

(8) Ms. Pac-Man 22224 (67.19%)
(9) Sephiroth 10854 (32.81%)

(5) Miles Tails Prower 27854 (85.06%)
(12) Albert Wesker 4894 (14.94%)

(4) Geralt of Rivia 18424 (61.64%)
(13) Big Daddy 11467 (38.36%)

(6) Bowser 24297 (60.30%)
(11) Michael Vick 15998 (39.70%)

(3) Scorpion 23295 (68.48%)
(14) Frogger 10720 (31.52%)

(7) Chun-Li 19525 (58.42%)
(10) Ezio Auditore 13898 (41.58%)

(2) Donkey Kong 28022 (80.12%)
(15) Batman 6954 (19.88%)

Hyrule Division

(1) Link 32769 (95.14%)
(16) The Prince of Persia 1675 (4.86%)

(8) Luigi 20979 (54.72%)
(9) Bo Jackson 17363 (45.28%)

(5) Nathan Drake 23661 (83.88%)
(12) Johnny Gat 4547 (16.12%)

(4) Arthur Morgan 18468 (60.26%)
(13) Cloud Strife 12178 (39.74%)

(6) Goose 11164 (35.98%)
(11) Doom Slayer 19862 (64.02%)

(3) Lara Croft 25657 (81.49%)
(14) Agent 47 5826 (18.51%)

(7) Joel 9095 (27.75%)
(10) Kirby 23680 (72.25%)

(2) Pikachu 27162 (83.83%)
(15) Max Payne 5241 (16.17%)

Mobius Division

(1) Sonic the Hedgehog 30641 (91.59%)
(16) Sam Fisher 2814 (8.41%)

(8) Leon Kennedy 9942 (34.07%)
(9) Trevor Philips 19240 (65.93%)

(5) GLaDOS 15866 (54.15%)
(12) Marcus Fenix 13435 (45.85%)

(4) Pac-Man 24498 (75.03%)
(13) Cortana 8152 (24.97%)

(6) Yoshi 24901 (68.89%)
(11) Crash Bandicoot 11247 (31.11%)

(3) John Marston 14130 (41.48%)
(14) Mike Tyson 19937 (58.52%)

(7) Ryu 24190 (77.71%)
(10) Gordon Freeman 6937 (22.29%)

(2) Kratos 16507 (49.95%)
(15) Fox McCloud 16537 (50.05%)

Milky Way Division

(1) Master Chief 25064 (82.20%)
(16) Commander Shepard 5426 (17.80%)

(8) The Oxen 19502 (66.05%)
(9) Ryu Hayabusa 10023 (33.95%)

(5) John Price 16408 (62.31%)
(12) Auron 9923 (37.69%)

(4) Samus Aran 24109 (86.16%)
(13) Dante 3873 (13.84%)

(6) Tony Hawk 25221 (52.10%)
(11) Tom Nook 23186 (47.90%)

(3) Ellie 18815 (72.42%)
(14) Bayonetta 7164 (27.58%)

(7) Mega Man 18107 (57.49%)
(10) Princess Peach 13388 (42.51%)

(2) Solid Snake 24082 (90.26%)
(15) The King of All Cosmos 2598 (9.74%)

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And now for round 2!

Mushroom Kingdom Division

(1) Mario 30089 (95.40%)
(8) Ms. Pac-Man 1452 (4.60%)

Mario 50.00%
Ms. Pac-Man 4.60%
Clementine 3.35%
Sephiroth 3.02%

(5) Miles Tails Prower 18636 (58.87%)
(4) Geralt of Rivia 12554 (41.13%)

Miles Tails Prower 50.00%
Geralt of Rivia 41.13%
Big Daddy 31.55%
Albert Wesker 14.94%

(6) Bowser 18936 (59.76%)
(3) Scorpion 12753 (40.24%)

Bowser 50.00%
Scorpion 40.24%
Michael Vick 39.70%
Frogger 25.37%

(7) Chun-Li 6559 (21.18%)
(2) Donkey Kong 24407 (78.82%)

Donkey Kong 50.00%
Chun-Li 21.18%
Batman 19.88%
Ezio Auditore 17.61%

Hyrule Division

(1) Link 24356 (78.47%)
(8) Luigi 6681 (21.53%)

Link 50.00%
Luigi 21.53%
Bo Jackson 19.50%
The Prince of Persia 4.86%

(5) Nathan Drake 14148 (49.21%)
(4) Arthur Morgan 14600 (50.79%)

Arthur Morgan 50.00%
Nathan Drake 49.21%
Cloud Strife 39.74%
Johnny Gat 15.87%

(11) Doom Slayer 6149 (21.04%)
(3) Lara Croft 23080 (78.96%)

Lara Croft 50.00%
Doom Slayer 21.04%
Agent 47 18.51%
Goose 15.14%

(10) Kirby 10049 (32.63%)
(2) Pikachu 20744 (67.37%)

Pikachu 50.00%
Kirby 32.63%
Joel 18.11%
Max Payne 16.17%

Mobius Division

(1) Sonic the Hedgehog 25558 (82.60%)
(9) Trevor Philips 5385 (17.40%)

Sonic the Hedgehog 50.00%
Trevor Philips 17.40%
Leon Kennedy 11.86%
Sam Fisher 8.41%

(12) Marcus Fenix 4155 (13.87%)
(4) Pac-Man 25800 (86.13%)

Pac-Man 50.00%
Cortana 24.97%
GLaDOS 15.13%
Marcus Fenix 13.87%

(6) Yoshi 20260 (65.73%)
(14) Mike Tyson 10562 (34.27%)

Yoshi 50.00%
Mike Tyson 34.27%
Crash Bandicoot 31.11%
John Marston 28.43%

(7) Ryu 14979 (49.31%)
(15) Fox McCloud 15397 (50.69%)

Fox McCloud 50.00%
Kratos 49.95%
Ryu 49.31%
Gordon Freeman 21.98%

Milky Way Division

(1) Master Chief 20849 (60.06%)
(8) The Oxen 13866 (39.94%)

Master Chief 50.00%
The Oxen 39.94%
Ryu Hayabusa 27.12%
Commander Shepard 17.80%

(5) John Price 6716 (23.51%)
(4) Samus Aran 21853 (76.49%)

Samus Aran 50.00%
John Price 23.51%
Auron 17.72%
Dante 13.84%

(6) Tony Hawk 21642 (72.34%)
(3) Ellie 8274 (27.66%)

Tony Hawk 50.00%
Tom Nook 47.90%
Ellie 27.66%
Bayonetta 15.26%

(7) Mega Man 16097 (54.57%)
(2) Solid Snake 13399 (45.43%)

Mega Man 50.00%
Solid Snake 45.43%
Princess Peach 42.51%
The King of All Cosmos 8.85%

For the record, Ryu won pretty soundly on Instagram and Facebook (as did Arthur Morgan over Nathan Drake) so he probably advances there but that was one heck of a tight fourpack

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LeonhartFour posted...

(6) Bowser 18936 (59.76%)
(3) Scorpion 12753 (40.24%)

Bowser 50.00%
Scorpion 40.24%
Michael Vick 39.70%
Frogger 25.37%

(7) Chun-Li 6559 (21.18%)
(2) Donkey Kong 24407 (78.82%)

Donkey Kong 50.00%
Chun-Li 21.18%
Batman 19.88%
Ezio Auditore 17.61%

Bowser vs DK should be fun. Interesting to see how the Nintendo hierarchy works on another site.

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LeonhartFour posted...

Mario 50.00%
Ms. Pac-Man 4.60%
Clementine 3.35%
Sephiroth 3.02%

Looks like a normal GameFAQs contest
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https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/24/22291928/best-video-game-character-bracket-sweet-sixteen

Looks like Ryu did beat Fox making Ryu one of the few non-Nintendo characters to beat a Nintendo character. We're pretty close to being able to hold the Top 8 in a single SSBU match but Tony Hawk might be too strong.
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Mario vs DK gonna get real ugly next round. I don't think anyone outside Link can hold Mario under 70%.

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Oof, poor Samus and MM.

You guys realize Bowser vs. Donkey Kong is the equivalent of the current Godzilla vs. King Kong debate, right?



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Master Chief vs. Samus, heck yeah.

OrangeCrush980 posted...

Mario 50.00%
Ms. Pac-Man 4.60%
Clementine 3.35%
Sephiroth 3.02%

Looks like a normal GameFAQs contest

I really laughed at this.

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DK > Bowser and Chief > Samus huh

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King Kong > Godzilla confirmed.

Leonhart4 posted...

Chief > Samus huh

It's kind of surprising since Samus was extremely powerful in the previous rounds. Though it's not shocking since The Chief is a severely downgraded gaming icon here and Samus is probably stronger than ever.

We also have to take into account that there seems to not exist any kind of hierarchic rule, as proven by the Mario division with Ms. Pac-Man and Sephiroth. I'd rest assured Sephy would put at least 30% more directly on Mario.

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I'd say there's still a hierarchy because Mario may have SFF'd Ms. Pac-Man hardcore.

Sephiroth would still get crushed though since he got doubled as is. On such a casual site, I'd wager Mario triples like 90% of all characters they'd put against him at bare minimum.

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swirIdude posted...

They should not be. It only makes sense in The Ringer's battle because they're a sports website and Tyson, Hawk, Vick are important characters in sports games history. (Where was QB Eagles, though?)

I wouldn't call The Ringer strictly a sports site. It's about half sports, half pop-culture. For every in-depth sports analytical article, there's a completely random article about things like reliving Will Smith's Wild Wild West performance at the 99 MTV Music Video Awards where he rode in on a horse for no damn reason at all lol.

Most of the writers are between 30-40 years old. They write about gaming quite a bit actually.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/24/22291928/best-video-game-character-bracket-sweet-sixteen

Looks like Ryu did beat Fox making Ryu one of the few non-Nintendo characters to beat a Nintendo character. We're pretty close to being able to hold the Top 8 in a single SSBU match but Tony Hawk might be too strong.

Too bad the Ringer staff has no idea how SFF works lol. They think Mario vs. Bowser would be an awesome match.

To be fair, we didn't understand it in 2002 either!

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Okay place your bets.

Does anyone break 20% on Mario before the final?

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I think Sonic can, although that Tails showing doesn't inspire confidence!

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I'm not entirely convinced Sonic (if he manages to beat Yoshi) outdoes DK on Mario!

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There's no stopping the MAW.
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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

I'm not entirely convinced Sonic (if he manages to beat Yoshi) outdoes DK on Mario!

I think Sonic beats Yoshi because my gut reaction is that Pac-Man beats Ryu (or at least comes very close).

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Does Sonic SFF Pac-Man like Mario does?
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Does Sonic SFF Pac-Man like Mario does?

Eh, I think there's a generational gap between the two, so I don't think he would.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic could SFF Pac-Man, but based on the results it was probably minimal.

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Today's results:

Mushroom Kingdom Division

(1) Mario 25742 (92.95%)
(5) Miles Tails Prower 1953 (7.05%)

Mario 50.00%
Miles Tails Prower 7.05%
Geralt of Rivia 5.80%
Ms. Pac-Man 4.60%
Big Daddy 4.45%
Clementine 3.35%
Sephiroth 3.02%
Albert Wesker 2.11%

(6) Bowser 10141 (36.61%)
(2) Donkey Kong 17560 (63.39%)

Donkey Kong 50.00%
Bowser 36.61%
Scorpion 29.46%
Michael Vick 29.07%
Chun-Li 21.18%
Batman 19.88%
Frogger 18.58%
Ezio Auditore 17.61%

Hyrule Division

(1) Link 22241 (82.76%)
(4) Arthur Morgan 4633 (17.24%)

Link 50.00%
Luigi 21.53%
Bo Jackson 19.50%
Arthur Morgan 17.24%
Nathan Drake 16.97%
Cloud Strife 13.70%
Johnny Gat 5.47%
The Prince of Persia 4.86%

(3) Lara Croft 10845 (39.55%)
(2) Pikachu 16574 (60.45%)

Pikachu 50.00%
Lara Croft 39.55%
Kirby 32.63%
Joel 18.11%
Doom Slayer 16.64%
Max Payne 16.17%
Agent 47 14.64%
Goose 11.98%

Mobius Division

(1) Sonic the Hedgehog 16990 (64.13%)
(4) Pac-Man 9504 (35.87%)

Sonic the Hedgehog 50.00%
Pac-Man 35.87%
Cortana 17.91%
Trevor Philips 17.40%
Leon Kennedy 11.86%
GLaDOS 10.85%
Marcus Fenix 9.95%
Sam Fisher 8.41%

(6) Yoshi 17682 (64.46%)
(7) Ryu 9747 (35.54%)

Yoshi 50.00%
Fox McCloud 36.04%
Kratos 36.00%
Ryu 35.54%
Mike Tyson 34.27%
Crash Bandicoot 31.11%
John Marston 28.43%
Gordon Freeman 15.84%

Milky Way Division

(1) Master Chief 14697 (56.13%)
(4) Samus Aran 11486 (43.87%)

Master Chief 50.00%
Samus Aran 43.87%
The Oxen 39.94%
Ryu Hayabusa 27.12%
John Price 20.63%
Commander Shepard 17.80%
Auron 15.55%
Dante 12.14%

(6) Tony Hawk 16179 (58.18%)
(7) Mega Man 11631 (41.82%)

Tony Hawk 50.00%
Tom Nook 47.90%
Mega Man 41.82%
Solid Snake 38.00%
Princess Peach 35.56%
Ellie 27.66%
Bayonetta 15.26%
The King of All Cosmos 7.40%

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Chief/Hawk are going 50/50

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Link vs. Tony Hawk

Let's do it

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Hope this guy never steps foot on this site during a contest. He'd get triggered hard by some of the shit that wins matches.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/25/22300615/character-study-chun-li-street-fighter-ii

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That gave me "Street Fighter II lost?" vibes

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The one that triggered me was the dude writing about Luigi and repeatedly calling him Luigi Mario

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Go Hawk

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