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Lebronwon
01/04/21 11:01:50 AM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-porn-stars-like-me-are-terrified-of-vp-kamala-harris

As an American, I am thrilled to see Vice President-elect Kamala Harris enter the West Wing. As a porn star, I am terrified. The vice president-elect brings a lifetime of animosity toward sex workers to Number One Observatory Circle. Its hard to stand out as a sex working-hate politician. Most politicians hate porn stars, so I struggle to keep track of all the senators, district attorneys, and other elected hacks who rail against the performers in the pornos they watch. But Harris is so against sex work that she came on porn stars radar years ago. We have been raising the alarm about Harris since her days as a San Francisco District Attorney. Our sirens are growing louder as inauguration day nears because we need public support to prevent Harris from pushing against sex work in the Oval Office. Harriss hatred goes back to her days as San Francisco District Attorney. In 2008, Harris opposed a San Francisco ballot initiative to legalize prostitution. I think its completely ridiculous, just in case theres any ambiguity about my position, Harris told The New York Times. She proclaimed the law would roll a welcome mat out for pimps and push vulnerable women into the arms of drugs and guns.

Harris also said the quiet part out loud: She worried legal sex work compromises the quality of life in a community. In other words, sex work looks terrible. As a district attorney, senator, and presidential candidate, Harris has trafficked in outdated sex-worker cliches. Out reports that California Attorney General Harris fought in court in 2015 to ensure the state continued criminalizing sex work. Harriss offices reasoning: [P]rostitution is linked to the transmission of AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases. Republican Senator Jesse Helms couldnt have said it better himself. In many circumstances, Harriss actions harm sex workers. According to Melissa Gira Grants reporting in the Washington Post, Harris tried to prosecute the owners of Backpage as pimps. Harris presented the classified site as a platform for human traffickers, but both female sex workers and human trafficking advocates discounted Harriss narrative.



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Choco
01/04/21 11:04:01 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
In 2008, Harris opposed a San Francisco ballot initiative to legalize prostitution. I think its completely ridiculous, just in case theres any ambiguity about my position, Harris told The New York Times. She proclaimed the law would roll a welcome mat out for pimps and push vulnerable women into the arms of drugs and guns.
literally the exact opposite of the truth

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Questionmarktarius
01/04/21 11:04:13 AM
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Meh.
The porn industry is going to be killed off by piracy anyway, or at least the "professional" kind.
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eston
01/04/21 11:05:20 AM
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EffectAndCause
01/04/21 11:06:29 AM
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The porn industry could literally end tomorrow and we already have enough porn in existence to satisfy everyone for the rest of eternity.

We dont need the porn industry anymore.

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Mingue
01/04/21 11:07:51 AM
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Porn isn't woke. It upholds the patriarchy and it oppresses non-binary PoC.

#CancelPorn
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Questionmarktarius
01/04/21 11:07:56 AM
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Incidentally, "cams" are going to be the only porn left, apart from, you know, the gigantic backlog that's existed since the first naughty cave painting.
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eston
01/04/21 11:08:03 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The porn industry could literally end tomorrow and we already have enough porn in existence to satisfy everyone for the rest of eternity.

We dont need the porn industry anymore.
Not to mention all the people making porn at home just because they like to, lol

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Tenlaar
01/04/21 11:10:21 AM
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Choco posted...
literally the exact opposite of the truth
The information that I have seen on the subject concludes that evidence suggests legalizing prostitution increases demand more than supply and thus creates an increase in sex trafficking. If you have something that actually counters that, please share it, but all that I've ever seen people do is say they don't believe it without being able to offer anything to counter.
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Lordgold666
01/04/21 11:11:40 AM
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Ironic considering the things they both had to do for a job

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spanky1
01/04/21 11:13:56 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The porn industry could literally end tomorrow and we already have enough porn in existence to satisfy everyone for the rest of eternity.

We dont need the porn industry anymore.

No, we need to invent new fetishes.
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Questionmarktarius
01/04/21 11:15:12 AM
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spanky1 posted...
No, we need to invent new fetishes.
That's what hentai is for.


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RetsuZaiZen
01/04/21 11:16:22 AM
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eston posted...
Won't somebody think of the whoores

Wow

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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 11:16:55 AM
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yeah, I'd be okay with the porn industry shutting down.

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/04/21 11:19:23 AM
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Follow the science

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Garioshi
01/04/21 11:20:40 AM
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I'd be a lot more ashamed of being an empty suit than being a sex worker

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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 11:21:25 AM
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Garioshi posted...
I'd be a lot more ashamed of being an empty suit than being a sex worker

We both know you were born to be a filthy sex worker rather than being an empty suit.

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Hayame Zero
01/04/21 11:22:51 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
yeah, I'd be okay with the porn industry shutting down.
Yeah, sex workers are fine.

The industry, on the other hand...

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FrankJaegr
01/04/21 11:24:00 AM
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Damn so Kamalah is a false
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pogo_rabid
01/04/21 11:25:14 AM
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yikes @ most of the people in this topic.

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clyde_frog
01/04/21 11:34:26 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The porn industry could literally end tomorrow and we already have enough porn in existence to satisfy everyone for the rest of eternity.

We dont need the porn industry anymore.

We need to invest in our porn infrastructure!

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King_Hutton
01/04/21 11:35:02 AM
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It seems like more and more of society is realizing that sex work is still valid work; hopefully we can start pushing politicians that way, too. I doubt many of them actually give much of a fuck.

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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 11:37:41 AM
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I don't want cities looking like Night City from cyberpunk2077 so yea, fuck pushing politicians to legalize sex work.

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ElatedVenusaur
01/04/21 11:41:02 AM
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F*** this moralistic trash. There's nothing inherently wrong with porn or the people who make it.
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creativerealms
01/04/21 11:42:36 AM
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Mingue posted...
Porn isn't woke. It upholds the patriarchy and it oppresses non-binary PoC.

#CancelPorn
Depends on who who ask. To sex positive feminists there is nothing more free, nothing more woke then porn and sex work.

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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 11:43:47 AM
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Literally nothing will convince the depraved and celibate not to smear porn all over society rather than leaving it in the dark districts and the red lights where they belong.

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Blue_Inigo
01/04/21 11:44:41 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Literally nothing will convince the depraved and celibate not to smear porn all over society rather than leaving it in the dark districts and the red lights where they belong.
Do you know what celibate means

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gamer167
01/04/21 11:46:30 AM
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Once Biden falls out of the picture and Kamala takes the reigns its going to be funny seeing how people react when she undershoots everyones expectations and just does her own thing lol.

Kamala was not the Leftist yall where looking for.
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ElatedVenusaur
01/04/21 11:47:36 AM
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gamer167 posted...
Once Biden falls out of the picture and Kamala takes the reigns its going to be funny seeing how people react when she undershoots everyones expectations and just does her own thing lol.

Kamala was not the Leftist yall where looking for.
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Zikten
01/04/21 11:48:10 AM
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Someone needs to explain to Kamala that legalizing prostitution is not rolling out th4 welcome mat to pimps. It would kill off the role of pimps. Pimps only exist because prostitution is illegal.
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King_Hutton
01/04/21 11:48:31 AM
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gamer167 posted...
Once Biden falls out of the picture and Kamala takes the reigns its going to be funny seeing how people react when she undershoots everyones expectations and just does her own thing lol.

Kamala was not the Leftist yall where looking for.
You havent heard any leftists talk about Harris before, have you?

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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 11:49:31 AM
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Zikten posted...
Someone needs to explain to Kamala that legalizing prostitution is not rolling out th4 welcome mat to pimps. It would kill off the role of pimps. Pimps only exist because prostitution is illegal.

Then why are pimps just wearing suits in Nevada and still selling girls legally rather than illegally?

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gamer167
01/04/21 11:50:17 AM
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King_Hutton posted...

You havent heard any leftists talk about Harris before, have you?


Not that I cared to remember.
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Questionmarktarius
01/04/21 11:50:24 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Then why are pimps just wearing suits in Nevada and still selling girls legally rather than illegally?
Someone has to run the "business" side.
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eston
01/04/21 11:50:30 AM
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Zikten posted...
Someone needs to explain to Kamala that legalizing prostitution is not rolling out th4 welcome mat to pimps. It would kill off the role of pimps. Pimps only exist because prostitution is illegal.
This just plain isn't true

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FrankJaegr
01/04/21 11:50:42 AM
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King_Hutton posted...
You havent heard any leftists talk about Harris before, have you?

I sure have lol
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Tenlaar
01/04/21 11:51:04 AM
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Zikten posted...
Someone needs to explain to Kamala that legalizing prostitution is not rolling out th4 welcome mat to pimps. It would kill off the role of pimps. Pimps only exist because prostitution is illegal.

Tenlaar posted...
The information that I have seen on the subject concludes that evidence suggests legalizing prostitution increases demand more than supply and thus creates an increase in sex trafficking. If you have something that actually counters that, please share it, but all that I've ever seen people do is say they don't believe it without being able to offer anything to counter.

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Zikten
01/04/21 11:51:13 AM
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Pimps are there to protect the prostitutes. If it legalized and federalized, there wouldn't be a need for them. I doubt the people you are talking about in Nevada are actual pimps.
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SPE
01/04/21 11:52:14 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-porn-stars-like-me-are-terrified-of-vp-kamala-harris

As an American, I am thrilled to see Vice President-elect Kamala Harris enter the West Wing. As a porn star, I am terrified. The vice president-elect brings a lifetime of animosity toward sex workers to Number One Observatory Circle. Its hard to stand out as a sex working-hate politician. Most politicians hate porn stars, so I struggle to keep track of all the senators, district attorneys, and other elected hacks who rail against the performers in the pornos they watch. But Harris is so against sex work that she came on porn stars radar years ago. We have been raising the alarm about Harris since her days as a San Francisco District Attorney. Our sirens are growing louder as inauguration day nears because we need public support to prevent Harris from pushing against sex work in the Oval Office. Harriss hatred goes back to her days as San Francisco District Attorney. In 2008, Harris opposed a San Francisco ballot initiative to legalize prostitution. I think its completely ridiculous, just in case theres any ambiguity about my position, Harris told The New York Times. She proclaimed the law would roll a welcome mat out for pimps and push vulnerable women into the arms of drugs and guns.

Harris also said the quiet part out loud: She worried legal sex work compromises the quality of life in a community. In other words, sex work looks terrible. As a district attorney, senator, and presidential candidate, Harris has trafficked in outdated sex-worker cliches. Out reports that California Attorney General Harris fought in court in 2015 to ensure the state continued criminalizing sex work. Harriss offices reasoning: [P]rostitution is linked to the transmission of AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases. Republican Senator Jesse Helms couldnt have said it better himself. In many circumstances, Harriss actions harm sex workers. According to Melissa Gira Grants reporting in the Washington Post, Harris tried to prosecute the owners of Backpage as pimps. Harris presented the classified site as a platform for human traffickers, but both female sex workers and human trafficking advocates discounted Harriss narrative.


what a bunch of s***. Like pence was known for liking women anywhere outside the home, even Mulan triggered him. He was no pr0n supporter lol

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Funkydog
01/04/21 11:52:23 AM
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Seems a legit and understandable fear of someone who has no understanding of the thing she criticises.

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Trickfinger
01/04/21 11:54:07 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
yeah, I'd be okay with the porn industry shutting down.


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eston
01/04/21 11:55:45 AM
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It seems like every year there's a new reason the porn industry is suddenly going to shut down

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Trickfinger
01/04/21 11:56:58 AM
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eston posted...
It seems like every year there's a new reason the porn industry is suddenly going to shut down
it is being shut down with each passing year..

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Tenlaar
01/04/21 12:01:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
Pimps are there to protect the prostitutes. If it legalized and federalized, there wouldn't be a need for them. I doubt the people you are talking about in Nevada are actual pimps.
Again, people who research these things have concluded that evidence suggests legalizing creates more demand for prostitutes than it creates legal prostitutes leading to an increase in sex trafficking.
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Balrog0
01/04/21 12:08:03 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
The information that I have seen on the subject concludes that evidence suggests legalizing prostitution increases demand more than supply and thus creates an increase in sex trafficking. If you have something that actually counters that, please share it, but all that I've ever seen people do is say they don't believe it without being able to offer anything to counter.

What information is that?

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Tenlaar
01/04/21 12:09:40 PM
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A 2012 study published in World Development, Does Legalized Prostitution Increase Human Trafficking? investigates the effect of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows into high-income countries. The researchers Seo-Yeong Cho of the German Institute for Economic Research, Axel Dreher of the University of Heidelberg and Eric Neumayer of the London School of Economics and Political Science analyzed cross-sectional data of 116 countries to determine the effect of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows. In addition, they reviewed case studies of Denmark, Germany and Switzerland to examine the longitudinal effects of legalizing or criminalizing prostitution.

The studys findings include:

  • Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.
  • The effect of legal prostitution on human trafficking inflows is stronger in high-income countries than middle-income countries. Because trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation requires that clients in a potential destination country have sufficient purchasing power, domestic supply acts as a constraint.
  • Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.
  • The type of legalization of prostitution does not matter it only matters whether prostitution is legal or not. Whether third-party involvement (persons who facilitate the prostitution businesses, i.e, pimps) is allowed or not does not have an effect on human trafficking inflows into a country. Legalization of prostitution itself is more important in explaining human trafficking than the type of legalization.
  • Democracies have a higher probability of increased human-trafficking inflows than non-democratic countries. There is a 13.4% higher probability of receiving higher inflows in a democratic country than otherwise.


https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/
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Tenlaar
01/04/21 12:09:55 PM
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I was actually just looking to verify that I wasn't remembering incorrectly.
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weekoldhotdog
01/04/21 12:10:15 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
A 2012 study published in World Development, Does Legalized Prostitution Increase Human Trafficking? investigates the effect of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows into high-income countries. The researchers Seo-Yeong Cho of the German Institute for Economic Research, Axel Dreher of the University of Heidelberg and Eric Neumayer of the London School of Economics and Political Science analyzed cross-sectional data of 116 countries to determine the effect of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows. In addition, they reviewed case studies of Denmark, Germany and Switzerland to examine the longitudinal effects of legalizing or criminalizing prostitution.

The studys findings include:

* Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.
* The effect of legal prostitution on human trafficking inflows is stronger in high-income countries than middle-income countries. Because trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation requires that clients in a potential destination country have sufficient purchasing power, domestic supply acts as a constraint.
* Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.
* The type of legalization of prostitution does not matter it only matters whether prostitution is legal or not. Whether third-party involvement (persons who facilitate the prostitution businesses, i.e, pimps) is allowed or not does not have an effect on human trafficking inflows into a country. Legalization of prostitution itself is more important in explaining human trafficking than the type of legalization.
* Democracies have a higher probability of increased human-trafficking inflows than non-democratic countries. There is a 13.4% higher probability of receiving higher inflows in a democratic country than otherwise.

https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/

He won't read any of that, he just wanted to see if you could back up your claim. I believed you.

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Balrog0
01/04/21 12:14:27 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
He won't read any of that, he just wanted to see if you could back up your claim. I believed you.

Why wouldn't I read any of that? I just wanted to see the research to see what to draw from that. Public policy is all about trade-offs. This (seems to) show that democracy has a bigger impact than legalized prostitution on increasing human trafficking but no one is gonna use it to say democracy is bad for that reason.

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CruelBuffalo
01/04/21 12:16:26 PM
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Are porn stars enthusiastic about Trump, Pence, and Biden? If not seems odd to single out only Kamala lol
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