Current Events > NYPost: Teaching 'white fragility' is bad for kids of color

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https://nypost.com/2021/01/02/teaching-white-fragility-is-bad-for-kids-of-color

Who knew hyper focusing on peoples skin colour could be so toxic.

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if you're an afro-pessimist, existing is bad for kids of colour. talking abut white fragility when trying to address race defeats the point and just makes it about white people anyway

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that english teacher is not good, it's not her job to push her views, she's supposed to be teaching them to SPELL

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"Discussion of white privilege, and its historical and social impact, is racist. We need to perpetuate the myth that people arent judged by race or ethnicity"

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You mean telling literally everyone not white that they're oppressed, the country itself wants them dead or to fail, and that everything will be an uphill battle, fighting against the hurricane of racism at every turn, doesn't help people? Bullshit!

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How is "white fragility" not racist against white people?

It should be taught by parents, but most parents won't do it. The toxic ones don't realize they're the toxic ones. It's just awkward in a class setting. Especially a classroom with minimum diversity. That's where the focus on seperation of races becomes a problem regardless of the lesson. Cause then whoever is the minority of the classrooms, rather white or black is being set up to be overwhelmed by the majority. You can't trust a bunch of kids to get together and not be dog eat dog while using numbers. I know when I was at school there was still tension between races at bigger schools. Not everybody of course, but certain groups.

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I have no idea what while fragility is referring to and I'm not wasting my time looking it up

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cuh posted...

I teach middle school and yea after the protests this year, every school district completely dropped whatever current professional development topics we were covering (stuff like how to better engage students via online learning) to shift immediately towards anti-racist pedagogy (as a note, my school is 99% Latino and 1% White lol). They then gave us lessons for our home room period (which meets daily) on racism, intersectionality, privilege, etc.

The science teacher must teach science, the reading teacher must teach reading, and so on. I do not support some half-baked government lesson plan for whichever administration feels they want to lecture on their version of morality. Its flawed because school boards change, admins change and teachers change, so the plan will flip flop in reflection of that. It sounds very religious. Go to this church and the guidance is this way, go to the other church down the street and its something else, go to a mosque and its something else, so none of us can agree with each other anyway.

Just be rational and reasonable and enforce the damn zero tolerance policies on bullying. Those rules either get ignored or they victim blame.

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shnangyboos posted...

You mean telling literally everyone not white that they're oppressed, the country itself wants them dead or to fail, and that everything will be an uphill battle, fighting against the hurricane of racism at every turn, doesn't help people? Bullshit!

"Telling children the truth about racial history in America is wrong"

lmfao


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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

The science teacher must teach science, the reading teacher must teach reading, and so on. I do not support some half-baked government lesson plan for whichever administration feels they want to lecture on their version of morality. Its flawed because school boards change, admins change and teachers change, so the plan will flip flop in reflection of that. It sounds very religious. Go to this church and the guidance is this way, go to the other church down the street and its something else, go to a mosque and its something else, so none of us can agree with each other anyway.

Just be rational and reasonable and enforce the damn zero tolerance policies on bullying. Those rules either get ignored or they victim blame.

Social studies? Sociology for some reason in middle or high school?

But, yeah, it's no surprise it's the same people every time trying to defend racism.
Should white fragility be taught in elementary? No. In high school history, racial studies, etc? Perfectly reasonable.

coh posted...

How is "white fragility" not racist against white people?

White fragility is the historic response of white people in America reacting defensively to evidence of racism. You can see plenty of it all over GameFAQs if you cared.

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some strong colored fragility vibes itt

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ChocoboMog123 posted...

Social studies? Sociology for some reason in middle or high school?

But, yeah, it's no surprise it's the same people every time trying to defend racism.
Should white fragility be taught in elementary? No. In high school history, racial studies, etc? Perfectly reasonable.

White fragility is the historic response of white people in America reacting defensively to evidence of racism. You can see plenty of it all over GameFAQs if you cared.

Not surprising you imply others are supporting racism, then you go and make a racist statement

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BoyOfBattle posted...

some strong colored fragility vibes itt

wow, that's a take

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I agree with that article. You should teach that cultural differences should be celebrated and shared. Not compared and ridiculed. Thrusting kids into the spotlight saying "you're doomed to this shitty life because white people are mean" isnt the way to do it.

White people shouldnt be villified for the sake of being white. Literally all that should be asked is to acknowledge that historically minorities have been treated unfairly and to see as us equals with equal opportunities. Instead of saying "Look at what you do to these poor minorities that need so much help"

Its another example of when liberalism starts to turn to racism.

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Author of the article is a 19-year-old whose other contributions to the New York Post were shilling for Joe Rogan, and an article titled "The Fallacy of White Privilege". >_>

Gonna be interesting to see where his career goes. Maybe in 5 years we'll see him on Fox News. <_<

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As a teacher, I think it is important to look at what the state of the world of education is now and why we need to pivot into teaching about stuff like this.

Education needs to change. Education for a long time focused on the memorization of facts and figures and the implementation of computational ability. There is nothing inherently wrong with that... but it is less necessary now. If you don't know when the second world War started, you can Google it. If you don't know how to graph an equation, you can download one of a thousand free programs to do it for you. Whether this is good or bad is a different conversation, it is the truth.

So what does education need to do to be more useful? Students have more access to information than ever before. Information is a wonderful tool if you know how to use it. We need to pivot to critical thinking skills and how to take in information, vet it, and come to a conclusion as to its worth, validity, and lens the information comes from. We need to move towards critical thinking skills.

Why do I mention this? With a shift to critical thinking focus comes critically thinking about the state of education itself. What comes of this is a harsh critique of what has been an exceptionally biased system for basically the entirety of western education. It is difficult to know exactly how to address this and we will experiment with many different styles before we see the statistics that show which new styles of addressing systemic racism works.

Education is going through a rapid change and there will be growing pains.

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My wife read the book and read me some excerpts.

It sounded ridiculous and i really think it's line of thinking is pushing us backwards.


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