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CruelBuffalo 12/30/20 3:25:47 PM #1: |
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E32005 12/30/20 3:26:02 PM #2: |
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Tyranthraxus 12/30/20 3:26:14 PM #3: |
It's about fucking time holy shit
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Questionmarktarius 12/30/20 3:27:18 PM #4: |
Do I still get to bring this one on the plane, tho?
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DarthAragorn 12/30/20 3:28:09 PM #5: |
Honestly I am ignorant of the actual studies behind it but
Emotional support animals seem like such a load of bullshit in a huge amount of cases and just an excuse for people to take their dogs places I saw one at disney world that was so freaked out by the amount of people around it that the owner or someone in their group had to pick it up and carry it and that's just fucked up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 12/30/20 3:29:04 PM #7: |
Time for your peacock to get a bus pass.
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PoundGarden 12/30/20 3:29:30 PM #8: |
Eh. People abuse it to be sure, but I had my Bull Terrier registered as an ESA so that I could keep him (homeowner association c***s) and also bring him on the plane with me. Fuck your dirty looks, if it was safer for animals to fly I'd do it the "normal" way but too many dogs freeze to death or get mistreated by the crew.
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brestugo 12/30/20 3:30:16 PM #9: |
Overdue. People were bringing pigs and miniature ponies, ffs.
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Tyranthraxus 12/30/20 3:32:25 PM #10: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Honestly I am ignorant of the actual studies behind it but They are helpful for people with PTSD or chronic depression but that doesn't mean they should be allowed on a plane. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AP3Brain 12/30/20 3:33:03 PM #11: |
PoundGarden posted...
Eh. People abuse it to be sure, but I had my Bull Terrier registered as an ESA so that I could keep him (homeowner association c***s) and also bring him on the plane with me. Fuck your dirty looks, if it was safer for animals to fly I'd do it the "normal" way but too many dogs freeze to death or get mistreated by the crew. Yeah. I definitely wouldn't trust TSA on handling animals. Just seems overall like a bad idea. I don't blame you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 12/30/20 3:35:17 PM #12: |
i literally just watched a woman's dog shit on the floor at walmart. falsely claiming a support animal needs to be seriously punished.
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AlCalavicci 12/30/20 3:38:25 PM #13: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
They are helpful for people with PTSD or chronic depression but that doesn't mean they should be allowed on a plane. How are people that need emotional support animals supposed to fly? Not supporting either side right now, I don't know enough about this situation to know my opinion either way. My only experience with emotional support animals is working in a retail store, where people would bring in dogs without the emotional support vest thing, and we couldn't ask them to leave, could only as them if the animal was emotional support or not. It was a hassle, and people abused it obviously, and I am not in favor of that. Seems pretty crappy to exclude the people that need it from being able to fly that airline though. --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 12/30/20 3:42:58 PM #14: |
I got my dog listed as an emotional support animal this year, and it was a $130 payment followed by a 2 minute phone call w/ a therapist where the only question was "Why do you think an emotional support animal would help?" I just said cause COVID was stressful, and she responds with "Yep, sounds like you really need a dog then!" and done.
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AdrianBeterson 12/30/20 3:44:32 PM #15: |
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David1988 12/30/20 3:45:00 PM #16: |
Hopefully they ban babies next
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The_Critic 12/30/20 3:51:01 PM #17: |
cuh posted...
ADA lawsuits incoming Emotional support animals are not service animals and are not covered by the ADA. Pretty much only protection ESAs are given is housing discrimination. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/30/20 3:52:44 PM #18: |
AlCalavicci posted...
How are people that need emotional support animals supposed to fly? You make appropriate plans to be without your animal for however long you need to. It's an emotional support animal not a "life dependency animal" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 12/30/20 3:54:16 PM #19: |
Good thing overall. I'd be fine with exceptions like "your animal must have passed some third party organization's test for standards for a service animal" or something like that, but otherwise the average housepet has no place in a plane if it cannot be in a cage or container.
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AlCalavicci 12/30/20 3:55:01 PM #20: |
The_Critic posted...
Emotional support animals are not service animals and are not covered by the ADA. Pretty much only protection ESAs are given is housing discrimination. I guess I didn't realize there was a difference between the two. Maybe service animals is what I'm thinking of --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blade_Trinity 12/30/20 3:55:39 PM #21: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I got my dog listed as an emotional support animal this year, and it was a $130 payment followed by a 2 minute phone call w/ a therapist where the only question was "Why do you think an emotional support animal would help?" I just said cause COVID was stressful, and she responds with "Yep, sounds like you really need a dog then!" and done.Pathetic --- Foxtrot Oscar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryan__Leaf 12/30/20 3:55:50 PM #22: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Honestly I am ignorant of the actual studies behind it but "Beginning Jan. 11, Alaska will only allow service dogs, which it defined in a press release as dogs that are " specially trained to perform tasks for the benefit of a qualified individual with a disability," including psychiatric service dogs, the airline said Tuesday in a news release." People who really need them will still be able to have them, no worries. This was all intended to put a stop to abusing the emotional support stuff. --- 1 Comp/15 Att for 4 Yds; 2 Ints; 3 fumbles Ryan Leaf; biggest draft bust in NFL history. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masticatingman 12/30/20 3:57:38 PM #23: |
Dog owners really take things way too far imo. Saw a dude just walking his dog around at a TJ Maxx the other day. Wtf is wrong with these people.
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Solid Sonic 12/30/20 3:57:59 PM #24: |
No more dogs shitting in the aisle? Pity. That always spiced up a flight.
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Tyranthraxus 12/30/20 3:58:32 PM #25: |
AlCalavicci posted...
I guess I didn't realize there was a difference between the two. Maybe service animals is what I'm thinking ofService animals are blind guide dogs and such but they're not the only kind. You can get a service dog for things like picking shit up off the ground floor you because you have a bad back. They have to pass level 3 obedience training which is very difficult and also Have service training. One of the tests for level 3 obedience is to lie down and stay perfectly still for 15 minutes while a bunch of people step over the dog constantly during that time. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 12/30/20 4:00:15 PM #26: |
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Socrawheeze 12/30/20 4:02:11 PM #27: |
The article notes Alaska Airlines is making an exception for psychiatric service animals. This rule is probably more for "I can't go anywhere without my precious Fluffems" type people
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Lordgold666 12/30/20 4:08:38 PM #28: |
But my emotional support camel loves to fly :(
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Solid Sonic 12/30/20 4:10:02 PM #29: |
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But my emotional support camel loves to fly :( Seems like you're its emotional support animal if that's how you view the relationship. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 12/30/20 4:10:17 PM #30: |
Also plush toys should be banned from airlines. All in favor?
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Lordgold666 12/30/20 4:20:49 PM #31: |
Solid Sonic posted...
Seems like you're its emotional support animal if that's how you view the relationship.Truth lol --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 12/30/20 4:22:58 PM #32: |
Socrawheeze posted...
The article notes Alaska Airlines is making an exception for psychiatric service animals. This rule is probably more for "I can't go anywhere without my precious Fluffems" type peopleyep. fair, next --- Wake up. You have to wake up. *currently a preta/hungry ghost* Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 12/30/20 4:27:14 PM #33: |
Good
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ChocoboMogALT 12/30/20 4:28:05 PM #34: |
Solid Sonic posted...
Also plush toys should be banned from airlines. All in favor?No. They make great back up pillows. If it fits underneath the seat it's fine. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornhuskers 12/30/20 4:29:00 PM #35: |
cuh posted...
ADA lawsuits incoming Good. PoundGarden posted... Eh. People abuse it to be sure, but I had my Bull Terrier registered as an ESA so that I could keep him (homeowner association c***s) and also bring him on the plane with me. Fuck your dirty looks, if it was safer for animals to fly I'd do it the "normal" way but too many dogs freeze to death or get mistreated by the crew. And more lawsuits. https://www.avvo.com . Post a ? about AA on there. --- Brother. Uncle. (Single and frisky). Veteran. Born in Nebraska, heart in #ATL. Pro Union, p-Choice, p-LGBT, p-Democrat, p-AOC, p-GND. #AuditThePolice. #Liberty ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetsuZaiZen 12/30/20 4:30:09 PM #36: |
I mean they still allow dogs so that's good.
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ChocoboMogALT 12/30/20 4:37:27 PM #37: |
Whose alt is CornHuskers again to have me blocked?
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Solid Sonic 12/30/20 4:42:05 PM #38: |
ChocoboMogALT posted...
No. They make great back up pillows. If it fits underneath the seat it's fine. HE CARRIES PLUSH TOYS IN PUBLIC. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMogALT 12/30/20 4:46:20 PM #39: |
Your account implies you're at least 32 years old. Have you never traveled with kids or family? There's a lot to unpack there... maybe that's why you can't fit stuffed animals.
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CableZL 12/30/20 4:47:07 PM #40: |
After the episode of the emotional support peacock, I'm all for this.
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Serious Cat 12/30/20 5:37:19 PM #41: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Service animals are blind guide dogs and such but they're not the only kind. You can get a service dog for things like picking shit up off the ground floor you because you have a bad back. They have to pass level 3 obedience training which is very difficult and also Have service training.There actually aren't any legal requirements for service dog training. They just need to be trained to perform specific tasks. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornhuskers 12/30/20 5:38:29 PM #42: |
Serious Cat posted...
You mean in all 50 states its like that? --- Brother. Uncle. (Single and frisky). Veteran. Born in Nebraska, heart in #ATL. Pro Union, p-Choice, p-LGBT, p-Democrat, p-AOC, p-GND. #AuditThePolice. #Liberty ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 12/30/20 5:40:42 PM #43: |
how will i fly without my emotional support peacock? i just cant settle down without the dulcet tones of it screeching like a fucking banshee while it shits literally everywhere and picks fights with the neighboring seats...
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Tyranthraxus 12/30/20 5:52:47 PM #44: |
Serious Cat posted...
There actually aren't any legal requirements for service dog training. They just need to be trained to perform specific tasks. There's one legal requirement. You have to have a disability. You can't have a service dog without a disability. You can have a dog that was trained as a service dog but if they're not helping you with a disability they're not a service dog. The other requirements I mentioned are for private certification. Which is nice but not legally required. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/30/20 6:23:52 PM #45: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
There's one legal requirement. You have to have a disability. The magic questions, incidentally the ones you can legally ask: Is the animal required because of a disability? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamer167 12/30/20 6:29:02 PM #46: |
Id rather they ship those screaming babies and toddlers with the cargo than the dogs.
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Bad_Mojo 12/30/20 6:31:03 PM #47: |
Good
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CasualGuy 12/30/20 6:32:40 PM #48: |
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Serious Cat 12/30/20 7:16:29 PM #49: |
Cornhuskers posted...
You mean in all 50 states its like that?Yes. The ADA is federal law. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornhuskers 12/30/20 8:09:56 PM #50: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Which organization regulates SD's? @Tyranthraxus --- Brother. Uncle. (Single and frisky). Veteran. Born in Nebraska, heart in #ATL. Pro Union, p-Choice, p-LGBT, p-Democrat, p-AOC, p-GND. #AuditThePolice. #Liberty ... Copied to Clipboard!
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