Poll of the Day > Asian California Nurse tested POSITIVE of COVID, 8 DAYS after getting VACCINE!!!

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ER Nurse, Matthew W., a San Diego California Nurse has tested POSITIVE of COVID-19, just EIGHT DAYS after receiving the vaccination!!

He got the Pfizer vaccine on December 18 and wrote about it on his instagram and said "Got my covid vaccine! The 15 minutes afterward sitting around with a bunch of others while health care workers asked us how we felt made me think of an opium den. I'll report back if i start to grow a third arm"

But on Christmas Eve, Matthew, who works at 2 different hospitals began feeling ill after a shift in a COVID unit

He told ABC10 news he first got chills before coming down with muscle aches and fatigue.

On December 26th, he went to get tested and it confirmed he had it

While it is surprising, it's not unexpected according to health experts.

Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist says it's not unusual at all and said if you work through the numbers, that's exactly what they would think happens if one is exposed as he may have been infected before getting the vacine and if that's true, then it's still in line with what health officials know.

He said "We know from the vaccine clinical trials, it's going ot take 10-14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine"

Ramers also said he's aware of other health care workers who become infected after receiving the vaccine as the first dose gives you 50% of protection while the second dose is a booster of 95%

Matthew says he's feeling better now however.

The Trump admin said their goal was to vaccinate 20 million americans by the end of the year but they've only vaccinated 2 MILLION..which is far below target as Trump blames STATES for the slow roll out but health experts said Operation Warp Speed overpromised and underdelivered

Are you scared of catching the virus?

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And of course right after vaccine comes out there is a "new strand" of it now found in Colorado and the UK...

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Decoy77 posted...

And of course right after vaccine comes out there is a "new strand" of it now found in Colorado and the UK...

Isnt it just more infectious but no worse than the 'original' strand and the vaccines are just as effective against it ?

Wouldn't anyone who gets any vaccine technically test positive for it for a while?

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313800 posted...

Isnt it just more infectious but no worse than the 'original' strand and the vaccines are just as effective against it ?

yup.

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Lokarin posted...

Wouldn't anyone who gets any vaccine technically test positive for it for a while?

That would probably depend on whether the test was looking for the same thing as what the vaccine included/produced. IIRC, the physer(sp) vaccine was some coronavirus RNA to make your own cells grow inert coronavirus spikes, and the immune system goes after them (just the spikes, or the entire cells?), and in doing so, effectively readies itself to go after the real viruses (again, just the spikes, or the whole thing? It'd be funny as hell if it just stripped the viruses of the infecting spikes, and left them as harmless blobs).

As for the generic ill feeling after receiving a vaccine, that's normal, and actually a good sign. It's the body's signal to reduce your activity so it has more energy to spend on arming the defenses. Specific, COVID-19 symptoms though shouldn't come from just a vaccine though, that would likely indicate you have the actual disease.

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How the hell did he contract covid now of all times?

Was he being more lax with his PPE because he had the vaccine?

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313800 posted...

the vaccines are just as effective against it ?

Nope, went to a seminar yesterday about the vaccine and asked this and got the answer of "No, something mrna something proteins something lipids blah blah something protein folding"

mrduckbear posted...

ER Nurse, Matthew W., a San Diego California Nurse has tested POSITIVE of COVID-19, just EIGHT DAYS after receiving the vaccination!!

As the vaccine isn't 100% effective this will happen. 95% still leave 5%.

Are you scared of catching the virus?

No. Worrying about catching something or even having it without any symptoms won't do my mental health any favours.


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When its a double dose about a month apart, people only started to receive it about half a month ago in the US. And even after the second dose, ive seen it takes about 2-4 weeks for it to take effect fully.

So yeah this is just fear mongering against the vaccine.

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EvilMegas posted...

How the hell did he contract covid now of all times?

Was he being more lax with his PPE because he had the vaccine?

Presumably because ER nurses are among the highest-risk group for infection, regardless of what protective protocols are being taken. PPE can only do so much. A false sense of security may have been a factor, but it doesn't have to be to explain this outcome.

wwinterj25 posted...

As the vaccine isn't 100% effective this will happen. 95% still leave 5%.

While true, that's not actually relevant here. The vaccine takes about two weeks to kick in, and doesn't really hit its full protective potential without the second dose a few weeks later (which then also takes two weeks to kick in). It usually takes a few days after infection for symptoms to show up, and at least a day or two after infection for the test to be able to detect it (regardless of symptoms), so odds are he was actually infected 4-5 days after being vaccinated, which is well within that two week gap. This was just rotten timing.

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How are vaccines made again?

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I mean, the timeline indicates he got infected before receiving the vaccine in the first place so this shouldn't be news at all.

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adjl posted...

so odds are he was actually infected 4-5 days after being vaccinated, which is well within that two week gap.

Probably. Of course if already infected then it's too little too late.

Krow_Incarnate posted...

How are vaccines made again?

Snips and snails and puppy-dogs tails.


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Krow_Incarnate posted...

How are vaccines made again?

In this case, by taking a sample of viral DNA, replicating the target sequence (most likely via PCR) to create a sufficiently concentrated sample, isolating it, then transcribing it into mRNA that is then added to the cocktail of other chemicals that comprise the vaccine and immediately frozen (presumably using LN2) to preserve it.

I know you're trying to get at the "vaccines are made from viruses so he was just injected with the virus and that's why he's sick!" angle, but there's absolutely no reason to believe that's what happened here.

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