Current Events > Did Italians really only get tomato sauce after the discovery of the new world?

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The photo is spaghetti bolognese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolognese_sauce

MedeaLysistrata posted...

When Duncan goes to Subway on Tuesday, he orders in Latin

He orders a Roman BMT and then has to explain to the guy making the sandwich that Romans are Italian.

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xue1 posted...

The photo is spaghetti bolognese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolognese_sauce

I am talking about the presentation / preparation of the dish and not the ingredients. Dumping sauce on top of plain spaghetti is pretty much an automatic F- from me. If I was a michelin rater I'd walk out. If I was a chef on TV you'd be getting screamed at.

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Caesar was assassinated by a baguette

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Wait til you hear about British accents!

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I confess that I too struggled with this but I eat sushi with green-dyed horse radish and pasta with olive oil together with grated hard Italian cheese works for me.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

If I was a michelin rater I'd walk out. If I was a chef on TV you'd be getting screamed at by gordon ramsey

i can hear it now.... he's saying get out and " **** off"
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corn, potatoes, peppers and many more foods are all from the new world, not just tomatoes

basically everyone's cuisine changed immensely with the "discovery" of the new world

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ThyCorndog posted...

corn, potatoes, peppers and many more foods are all from the new world, not just tomatoes

basically everyone's cuisine changed immensely with the "discovery" of the new world

I remember when I learned Potatoes are from the New World, it blew my mind. I always assumed they came from Ireland

Kind of off topic, but the Chinese population bloomed after new world foods came

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Basically everything the Irish do with potatoes they used to do with things like turnips.

I mean even pumpkins are from the Americas.

You know what the Irish used for Jack-o'-lanterns before pumpkins were around? Fucking turnips.
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Ryan__Leaf posted...

Spaghetti actually goes much better with oil and garlic (spaghettic ali olio, the most popular spaghetti dish in Italy) than anything else.

Tomato sauces go better with tube noodles like ziti or rigatoni which are much better at holding a tomato sauce.

Heavy cream and cheese based white sauces go best with flat long noodles, like fettuccini alfredo.

Spaghetti with marinara, meat sauce or meatballs is a very Americanized thing I believe.

That's cool, I'm just saying imo white sauce is disgusting and vastly inferior to red. A good marinara is damn near a meal in itself without noodles.
Makes me think of those dudes still clinging on to VHS/cassettes as the "superior" format, they had their day but there are better options now

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When I was in Italy (Rome, Florence), I never saw a tomato. I was kind of surprised. My girlfriend at the time told me do black people in America (I am a black American) eat the same as black people in Latin America, Europe or Africa ?

Also spaghetti al carbonara - Rome's signature dish didn't come about until Americans brought eggs and bacon after WW2. Romans substituted bacon with the superior pancetta.

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Origins of fruit video.
He has some other similar ones with spices and stuff.

https://youtu.be/hu6Y-gTZtzc
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Probably had Alfredo sauce

Returning_CEmen posted...

Probably had Alfredo sauce

Alfredo is a 19th century invention.


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Tyranthraxus posted...

Alfredo is a 19th century invention.

Poor bastards, maybe just olive oil

Bio1590 posted...

Basically everything the Irish do with potatoes they used to do with things like turnips.

I mean even pumpkins are from the Americas.

You know what the Irish used for Jack-o'-lanterns before pumpkins were around? Fucking turnips.

Am I the only one curious about fish and turnip chips?

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The Persian empire was Iranian
The Aztec empire was Mexican

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CobraGT posted...

Am I the only one curious about fish and turnip chips?

Jack o lantern turnips sound cool af

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I am waiting for TC to learn that Mexicans did not add cheese to their food until the European make-over.

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CobraGT posted...

Am I the only one curious about fish and turnip chips?

I mean you can absolutely make your own turnip chips, although I'd question if they were ever a "thing" hundreds of years ago.

David1988 posted...

The Persian empire was Iranian

It was >_> It's been known as Iran to the people that inhabited it forever, Persia/Persian Empire was an exonym
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Despite the hilariousness of what Duncan said, it actually turned out to be a really interesting and informative topic.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Meat sauce itself "ragu" is italian but there's definitely an american version of it that isn't anything at all like real ragu and not to be confused with the ragu brand of jarred sauce.

Spaghetti with meatballs is definitely american and although you can find it in italy nobody really eats it that way. Italian "spaghetti and meatballs" is more like a bowl of spaghetti and a separate bowl of just huge ass meatballs that you eat by themselves or with scarpetta.

And idk what the fuck this is but I hate it.

nothing more genius than having dry ass noodles with a plopping of sauce on top of a small plate


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