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AdviceMan 12/29/20 1:55:40 PM #104: |
I don't necessarily blame her or WANT her punished, but I also wasn't in a school where the n-word was used regularly.
Why SHOULD he care that she's a better person now? That's the thing with people, they think because they change their ways they are entitled to forgiveness. You're not. The damage you caused can be permanent and scarring, you only get to move on if everyone lets you. At the end of the day, her problem was caused by her and the school. All he did was release something she actually said. If this was addressed earlier, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation. She said the word. She suffered the consequences. If this makes her a worse person in the future, then she's actually dumb as bricks. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 12/29/20 1:57:39 PM #105: |
AdviceMan posted...
Why SHOULD he care that she's a better person now?Then there's no point in growing, is there? --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 12/29/20 2:02:07 PM #106: |
Yeah, idk what to say here. Saying a racial slur in a joking sort of way sounds like something a 15 year old could do. The fact that she supported the BLM movement a few years later makes it sound like she matured. Doesn't sound like a good use of cancel culture.
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BanHammer 12/29/20 2:02:24 PM #107: |
AdviceMan posted...
lmao yeah lets fuckin kill anyone that does something we think is wrong or hurts our feelings. they are irredeemable forever. /s --- Kid tested, mother approved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxKrebsxX 12/29/20 2:19:06 PM #108: |
LivingLegend posted...
Thats kind of fucked up that you just decided to use homophobic slurs and you justified it by saying that everyone was doing it! Ah, youre a troll and are just gas lighting. Moving on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 12/29/20 2:19:46 PM #109: |
Who posted?
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MedeaLysistrata 12/29/20 2:22:36 PM #110: |
LivingLegend posted...
15 year olds (especially white ones) should be smart enough to not use racial slurs
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Sabram 12/29/20 2:29:28 PM #116: |
AdviceMan posted...
I don't necessarily blame her or WANT her punished, but I also wasn't in a school where the n-word was used regularly.So you dont believe in rehabilitation for people in prison either? Anyone who commits a crime should just be executed cause they cant change and will always be a murderer/rapist/whatever? You're the worst kind of person. --- CPU: 10th Gen Comet Lake i9 10980HK 4.2Ghz. GPU:RTX 2080 Super 8GB. RAM:32 GB DDR4 3200Mhz/PC4 25700 DC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdviceMan 12/29/20 2:39:29 PM #121: |
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So you dont believe in rehabilitation for people in prison either? Anyone who commits a crime should just be executed cause they cant change and will always be a murderer/rapist/whatever? Your strawman falls on deaf ears. If you wrong me, I don't have to forgive you ever. He has no responsibility to not release her bad behavior. Your dues to the government are your own. If you then run for a position of power, and I post that you did something bad to me 6 years ago, that's my right. The fact that you're a better person now is irrelevant. If people look at you differently now, that's between them and you, specifically because I didn't MAKE you do the bad thing. I've done shitty things to people in my life, and some of them still hate me. If they wanted to they could reveal that I did it to them, and at least some fraction of my friends would hate my guts. But it's not their fault for revealing it, it's MY fault for doing it. Their reason for doing it only matters in the sense of what kind of person they are. But people are shifting the blame from her for saying something stupid to the person revealing it, because the consequences are felt by her. This ignores the fact that she contributed to a culture that hurt the black kid throughout high school. Lets say he did it because he wanted to hook up with her and she turned him down. One of the worst case scenarios. That would make him a bad person, but it would still be her fault because she's still suffering because of an action she did herself with no prompting. Some people pay for the mistakes they make. Some people pay more than others, because of circumstance, or just bad luck. She'll pull through. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BanHammer 12/29/20 2:40:51 PM #122: |
LivingLegend posted...
Dude shut the fuck up. i'm not the one that made the racist implication. she was ignorant before and has made an effort to better herself. implying a literal child deserves to have her life destroyed over some bullshit is vile. --- Kid tested, mother approved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 12/29/20 2:47:12 PM #125: |
Lots of people going "everyone's done shit like that in their lives!" itt - like dude, if you're talking about publically using racial slurs as a shithead kid, your experiences aren't universal. She shouldn't have gotten away with it at the time, and I'm not upset that she has to take accountability for it now.
The main point of contention for me is that her behavior was known to authority figures at the time, and she got off scot free. That's significant, because unless they were around shithead adults who found racism acceptable, I imagine most people saying that this is standard teenage behavior would have gotten a slap upside the head or an appropriately negative response from an authority figure when they're caught out being a racist dipshit. This girl didn't - she used a racial slur to be trendy, and despite there being people who were in a position to set her straight who knew about it, nobody did anything about it. I feel like it would be jarring to see someone who has a reputation for using racial slurs milk a bunch of anti-racist activism posts for social media clout, and while people do change and grow in 4 years, some people don't. We have as much evidence for her becoming a better person as we do for her being a hypocrite who did this for clout. I think this whole "we've all done bad shit as kids!" talking point is being made in bad faith, and people who are honestly arguing for this being an innocent teenage gaffe are either telling on themselves more than they maybe realise or they realise just how telling their statements are. Either way - I think that the people who were maligned by her prior behavior are right to not be happy with what she said, especially if the slur she used is one that's levelled against them for their race. And as petty as it might be, I don't blame the guy for leaking the video in response to a bunch of dumb social media posturing that her actions don't back up. --- Make it through this year, if it kills you outright. Now Playing: Persona 5, Minecraft, Hyrule Warriors ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 12/29/20 2:48:23 PM #127: |
tote_all posted...
This girl did a bad thing at 15.I mean try to be clear on bad thing to the crowd or bad thing to the legal system --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/29/20 2:49:57 PM #128: |
MrMallard posted...
Lots of people going "everyone's done shit like that in their lives!" itt - like dude, if you're talking about publically using racial slurs as a shithead kid, your experiences aren't universal. She shouldn't have gotten away with it at the time, and I'm not upset that she has to take accountability for it now. Punishing her now is pretty stupid though. Every teen says something stupid, and should have been punished back then. As they grow up and change over the years and doesnt do that anymore, why the fuck waste time and effort to punish her now? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BanHammer 12/29/20 2:53:20 PM #130: |
LivingLegend posted...
Yes you are... You went on a rant about white supremacy just a minute ago for no apparent reason. @BanHammer ah i get it. you're trolling trying to gaslight me. well ill have you tagged appropriately. do not @me anymore. and dont insinuate white people are smarter than black people in the future that's insulting and offensive to us. --- Kid tested, mother approved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 12/29/20 2:56:18 PM #131: |
BanHammer posted...
i'm not the one that made the racist implication. she was ignorant before and has made an effort to better herself. implying a literal child deserves to have her life destroyed over some bullshit is vile. If she's committed to higher education, she'll be able to attend another college and get her degree. What this changes is that she won't be getting it from the University of Tennessee. Her life is hardly ruined by this. Her family seems to support her, and she's young enough that she can start again. She literally has her entire future ahead of her. --- Make it through this year, if it kills you outright. Now Playing: Persona 5, Minecraft, Hyrule Warriors ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 12/29/20 2:58:12 PM #132: |
tote_all posted...
I literally said violent crimes.So actions that already have a system in place to take care of things? They should go to juvie I guess? Your posts seem like a red herring but maybe they're not --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sunburn 12/29/20 3:00:18 PM #133: |
Tc should be banned for pointless topics. All these do is fuel the mods here.
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BanHammer 12/29/20 3:05:26 PM #135: |
MrMallard posted...
If she's committed to higher education, she'll be able to attend another college and get her degree. What this changes is that she won't be getting it from the University of Tennessee. and what's stopping this little sociopath from targeting any employer or university admissions moving forward? --- Kid tested, mother approved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Teh_Dr_Phil 12/29/20 3:07:53 PM #136: |
Hopefully the guy gets kicked out of school too. Holding onto this video for years is childish and petty, especially when you know she marched alongside BLM. I would hope that everyone in here saying fair, next hasnt said anything even slightly questionable at any point in their lives. Doesnt matter if youve grown or changed, you should be punished too, I suppose.
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Akagami_Shanks 12/29/20 3:16:22 PM #137: |
just watched the video and thats going to be a yikes from me. It wasn't lyrics btw and she said the hard R. If anything, the admins that did NOTHING about the video should be punished
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AdviceMan 12/29/20 3:19:06 PM #139: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Punishing her now is pretty stupid though. Every teen says something stupid, and should have been punished back then. As they grow up and change over the years and doesnt do that anymore, why the fuck waste time and effort to punish her now? I wouldn't punish her, but it's not my decision. Nor is it yours. Your argument is people shouldn't be mad at her because she grew up, and I'm like "that's not how it works". Because really at the end of the day, that's what it is. She's not being punished officially, she's getting backlash because she did something dumb. It actually costs no time whatsoever. Taking her in is what causes the headache because she brings heat. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 12/29/20 3:29:35 PM #141: |
tote_all posted...
That's the thing. The kid holding on to the video should've been mad and taking action against the local authorities he showed the video to, not the fellow 15 year old. Why not both? --- Make it through this year, if it kills you outright. Now Playing: Persona 5, Minecraft, Hyrule Warriors ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 12/29/20 3:32:20 PM #143: |
AdviceMan posted...
She's not being punished officiallyYes she is. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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krazychao5 12/29/20 3:35:04 PM #144: |
there are actual racists that are not punished
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masticatingman 12/29/20 6:13:18 PM #156: |
Probably a byproduct of that word being heavily used in songs in the most popular music genre in the country right now.
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