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DJquackquack
12/27/20 6:35:30 PM
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 6:46:23 PM
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DJquackquack
12/27/20 6:48:35 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
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What exactly am I baiting you to do? Engage in a discussion?
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Zeus
12/27/20 6:49:32 PM
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Fucking spoilers right in the title.

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Mead
12/27/20 6:50:07 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
What exactly am I baiting you to do? Engage in a discussion?

we see through your deception

we have superior eyes

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 6:50:40 PM
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no, she did not

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 6:52:04 PM
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Zeus posted...
Fucking spoilers right in the title.
No? If I made a topic that said So Batman beat up a guy... would you say I spoiled the Dark Knight?
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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 6:53:00 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
no, she did not

she did though

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 6:54:04 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
no, she did not
Lets say it happened to you. As far fetched as it is, lets say what happened to him happened to you, and you found out about it afterwards.

Would you feel violated?
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DDirtyDastard
12/27/20 6:57:40 PM
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She raped me and I'm pressing charges
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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 7:00:34 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
she did though
she didn't, because that dude stopped being that dude after another dude replaced him

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LinkPizza
12/27/20 7:01:17 PM
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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 7:01:34 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
she didn't, because that dude stopped being that dude after another dude replaced him

are you fucking serious with this shit? They literally stole his body and fucked with it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't belong to him.

But hey keep being that guy,

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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:05:31 PM
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Are people getting more mad about Dianas boyfriends spirit magically going inside another mans body to help illustrate the theme of the movie than they are when college students rape women in full view of others?

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 7:06:36 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
are you fucking serious with this shit? They literally stole his body and fucked with it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't belong to him.

But hey keep being that guy,
it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing

there was no one to rape.


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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 7:07:20 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing

No he didn't. And he got his body back later anyway, but okay.

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:14:31 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing

there was no one to rape.
Steve literally says What about dating this guy? Steve himself was fully aware that hes borrowing someones body. And she even flirts with said guy later once he gets his body back.
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:16:16 PM
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Yeah, I guess its silly that the stone was able to create things, but could only bring back a soul to inhabit another body, but when people say the movie is about rape, youre gonna think she actually raped this dude, and not like, a Meet Joe Black situation.

Why do people need to have these weird-ass bad-faith misinterpretations to justify why they dislike [Thing]?

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:18:21 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Are people getting more mad about Dianas boyfriends spirit magically going inside another mans body to help illustrate the theme of the movie than they are when college students rape women in full view of others?
Im not sure what movie youre referencing, but just because you condemn one, doesnt mean you condone the other. Both are bad.

Just like it was bad in that 80s movie when a dude has sex with a girl in the dark and she thinks its her bf. (I think it was one of the Revenge Of The Nerds movies)
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:21:09 PM
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The circumstances in Revenge of the Nerds were entirely different.

Youre looking too much into a thing the movie barely addresses because its not an important part of the story. Its just to add extra angst/give Diana a reason to maybe connect with this man later on in movie 3. The intention wasnt to have her rape him repeatedly ffs, its just silly superhero magic

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:21:24 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Yeah, I guess its silly that the stone was able to create things, but could only bring back a soul to inhabit another body, but when people say the movie is about rape, youre gonna think she actually raped this dude, and not like, a Meet Joe Black situation.

Why do people need to have these weird-ass bad-faith misinterpretations to justify why they dislike [Thing]?
Because the movie has TWO different attempted rapes in it (one of which Diana herself prevented); and it paints a hypocritical character study of her. Not to mention that it gives the impression that its okay when this stuff happens to a guy.
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Zareth
12/27/20 7:22:06 PM
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Ah yes, nothing like arguing over whether a fantasy scenario constitutes rape or not.

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:27:13 PM
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Zareth posted...
Ah yes, nothing like arguing over whether a fantasy scenario constitutes rape or not.
I mean if the same scenario happened to a woman, and women were (rightly so) offended by it, there wouldnt even be an argument. Itd be accepted that the scenario was framed in poor taste.
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:27:24 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
Because the movie has TWO different attempted rapes in it (one of which Diana herself prevented); and it paints a hypocritical character study of her. Not to mention that it gives the impression that its okay when this stuff happens to a guy.
Did we watch the same movie? That dude was going to rape/kill Kristen Wig, and Diana was totally in the right to stop it. The only conceivable thing that could be considered iffy was Kristen Wig later going and beating that guy down too, but more, and the movie painting it as a bad thing.

There wasnt a scene of Chris Pines host body constantly creeping up and being scared/worried about his autonomy because that isnt part of the movie or something to be concerned about. Its just a silly decision because they made him possess a body instead of getting a new one for him. As far as the audience and story is concerned, the host body doesnt exist anymore, and just popped back when Diana renounced her wish

I get being critical of media but... uh... this aint it chief.

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 7:28:00 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
Steve literally says What about dating this guy? Steve himself was fully aware that hes borrowing someones body. And she even flirts with said guy later once he gets his body back.

that doesn't matter though.

at the time, that guy did not exist. the person in the body was someone else, entirely. it was, for all intents and purposes, that dudes body now.

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:38:20 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Did we watch the same movie? That dude was going to rape/kill Kristen Wig, and Diana was totally in the right to stop it. The only conceivable thing that could be considered iffy was Kristen Wig later going and beating that guy down too, but more, and the movie painting it as a bad thing.

There wasnt a scene of Chris Pines host body constantly creeping up and being scared/worried about his autonomy because that isnt part of the movie or something to be concerned about. Its just a silly decision because they made him possess a body instead of getting a new one for him. As far as the audience and story is concerned, the host body doesnt exist anymore, and just popped back when Diana renounced her wish

I get being critical of media but... uh... this aint it chief.
Have you ever seen the movie Get Out? What happened to this dude is identical to what happened to the black folks in Get Out. If youre defending this, youre defending that.
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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:38:49 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
that doesn't matter though.

at the time, that guy did not exist. the person in the body was someone else, entirely. it was, for all intents and purposes, that dudes body now.
See my above post.
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:40:09 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
Have you ever seen the movie Get Out? What happened to this dude is identical to what happened to the black folks in Get Out. If youre defending this, youre defending that.
Uh... sure, whatever.

I mean, its NOTHING like that and the circumstances are 100% different but... okay

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 7:41:43 PM
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it is absolutely not even remotely the same thing as what happened in get out

in wonder woman, it's a magic wish stone that literally just switches the place of these two people. original guys soul goes to heaven, he's essentially dead, and in his body was put the soul of someone else who was previously dead.

in get out, they put their brain into other people, but somehow the original persons consciousness remains in their body even if their brain isn't (which makes no sense at all given the context of what happened).

in wonder woman, the original guy is not in that body anymore.

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Mead
12/27/20 7:43:43 PM
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Did you guys know that this is a stupid topic?

Its true

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:44:01 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Uh... sure, whatever.

I mean, its NOTHING like that and the circumstances are 100% different but... okay
Yeah, no. You put somebodys brain in somebody elses body without their consent. The only difference is how it was done.

It wasnt cool then and it isnt now. The only difference is Get Out painted it like the negative situation it rightfully is.
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:47:47 PM
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In Get Out, a family of white people obsessed with the black form kidnap and brain swap black bodies because they believe them to be better than white ones.

In Wonder Woman, a stone made by a trickster god with the explicit purpose of sowing discord like a monkeys paw situation puts one soul into another body and temporarily erases the original personality so that the person eventually looks exactly like the souls OG body, and ties back into the theme of you cant really be happy with false truths

Youre reading way too much into this.

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:49:04 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
it is absolutely not even remotely the same thing as what happened in get out

in wonder woman, it's a magic wish stone that literally just switches the place of these two people. original guys soul goes to heaven, he's essentially dead, and in his body was put the soul of someone else who was previously dead.

in get out, they put their brain into other people, but somehow the original persons consciousness remains in their body even if their brain isn't (which makes no sense at all given the context of what happened).

in wonder woman, the original guy is not in that body anymore.
It doesnt matter if his soul was removed. The second it was returned to that body, she raped him in retrospect. His body was used without his permission. If he stayed dead I could see your point, but dude got his body back, minus three days worth of sperm.

What if the guy was gay? Do you think its fair that his body was used in a sex act that he wouldnt condone?
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PK_Spam
12/27/20 7:51:02 PM
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Im convinced Im really just trapped in my own personal hell world, holy shit


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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:51:06 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
In Get Out, a family of white people obsessed with the black form kidnap and brain swap black bodies because they believe them to be better than white ones.

In Wonder Woman, a stone made by a trickster god with the explicit purpose of sowing discord like a monkeys paw situation puts one soul into another body and temporarily erases the original personality so that the person eventually looks exactly like the souls OG body, and ties back into the theme of you cant really be happy with false truths

Youre reading way too much into this.
Its two equally fictitious procedures with exactly the same outcome. One is sci-fi brain surgery, the other is a magic stone. In neither case was it fair to the host.
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DJquackquack
12/27/20 7:53:17 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Im convinced Im really just trapped in my own personal hell world, holy shit
At least we can agree on that. Conversing with you is definitely its own special form of hell.
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dedbus
12/27/20 9:06:34 PM
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So it's not rape if their consciousness leaves their body and another person says ok do what you want with their body?

I thought that we were advancing but it's clear we have a long way to go. Sucks for that guy when he finds out he has amazonian herpes.
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DJquackquack
12/27/20 9:16:39 PM
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dedbus posted...
So it's not rape if their consciousness leaves their body and another person says ok do what you want with their body?

I thought that we were advancing but it's clear we have a long way to go. Sucks for that guy when he finds out he has amazonian herpes.
Or when he has to pay child support on a super powered baby he doesnt even remember making.
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Yellow
12/27/20 9:36:28 PM
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Problematic, yes, we wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea about possessing other people's bodies with their psychic powers in order to have sex with their partner in a comic book from 1984.

This is a problem. One of the worst problems. *Eats Nestle chocolate produced by child slaves*

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 9:47:40 PM
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Yellow posted...
Problematic, yes, we wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea about possessing other people's bodies with their psychic powers in order to have sex with their partner in a comic book from 1984.

This is a problem. One of the worst problems. *Eats Nestle chocolate produced by child slaves*
Its just a bad message to send is all. Especially because the movie goes out of its way to tackle the subject of rape.
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Conner4REAL
12/27/20 11:03:38 PM
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Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.

she grew up eating pussy on a island full of chicks.

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wwinterj25
12/27/20 11:05:56 PM
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That sounds like the plot for a sequel.

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PK_Spam
12/27/20 11:27:47 PM
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Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.

she grew up eating pussy on a island full of chicks.
I was honestly getting huge lesbian vibes from Kristen Wig until she started simping for Pedro Pascal.

Maybe shes one of those women who seeks validation from me due to social conditioning. She had way more chemistry with Gal Gadot, its not funny.

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Yellow
12/27/20 11:33:59 PM
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Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.

she grew up eating pussy on a island full of chicks.
Batman would disagree.

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DJquackquack
12/27/20 11:41:54 PM
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So like, what if she and Steve got that dude killed? Or what about his friends and family who were likely looking for him? And why does the movie go out of its way to show that he has no interest in her romantically, at the end?

Also what makes it all worse is that they never even say the guys name, not once in the entire movie. In fact the actor himself isnt even credited. Its like the dude just existed to be used by Steve and Diana.
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Metalsonic66
12/28/20 12:03:00 AM
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Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes


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Justin2Krelian
12/28/20 12:08:43 AM
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Rocky raped Adrian

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Blightzkrieg
12/28/20 2:44:44 AM
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It was a super weird choice to have him possess that guy instead of just having him reappear.

Aside from whether or not it was rape, it just introduces a bunch of weird implications for no reason, that nobody seems to think about.

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mooreandrew58
12/28/20 7:55:34 AM
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Not reading thread as i dont want spoilers but there was an adaptation of the amazons where that is precisely how they procreated. Theyd venture out and rape sailors. Any males that where born got sold off to be slaves to a Greek god. Iirc it was wonder woman who freed said males and it started to cause tension for her as queen cause the rest of the amazons wanted to stick to the tradition of no males on the island.

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BlazeAndBlade
12/28/20 10:32:32 AM
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she done far worse things in the comics hell she even snaps guy's necks for looking her way.

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