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DJquackquack 12/27/20 6:35:30 PM #1: |
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/12/26/the-warped-morality-of-wonder-woman-1984/
https://medium.com/saveindianfamilyfoundation/did-wonder-woman-just-rape-a-guy-in-wonder-woman-1984-bdee677c2904 https://www.thewrap.com/lets-talk-about-steve-trevor-problematic-resurrection-in-wonder-woman-1984/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 6:46:23 PM #2: |
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 6:48:35 PM #3: |
PK_Spam posted...
ClickWhat exactly am I baiting you to do? Engage in a discussion? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/27/20 6:49:32 PM #4: |
Fucking spoilers right in the title.
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Mead 12/27/20 6:50:07 PM #5: |
DJquackquack posted...
What exactly am I baiting you to do? Engage in a discussion? we see through your deception we have superior eyes --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joe_Biden 12/27/20 6:50:40 PM #6: |
no, she did not
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 6:52:04 PM #7: |
Zeus posted...
Fucking spoilers right in the title.No? If I made a topic that said So Batman beat up a guy... would you say I spoiled the Dark Knight? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimbos_Egg 12/27/20 6:53:00 PM #8: |
Joe_Biden posted...
no, she did not she did though --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/Khu5iBF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 6:54:04 PM #9: |
Joe_Biden posted...
no, she did notLets say it happened to you. As far fetched as it is, lets say what happened to him happened to you, and you found out about it afterwards. Would you feel violated? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DDirtyDastard 12/27/20 6:57:40 PM #10: |
She raped me and I'm pressing charges
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Joe_Biden 12/27/20 7:00:34 PM #11: |
Kimbos_Egg posted...
she did thoughshe didn't, because that dude stopped being that dude after another dude replaced him --- "If we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 12/27/20 7:01:17 PM #12: |
PK_Spam posted...
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Kimbos_Egg 12/27/20 7:01:34 PM #13: |
Joe_Biden posted...
she didn't, because that dude stopped being that dude after another dude replaced him are you fucking serious with this shit? They literally stole his body and fucked with it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't belong to him. But hey keep being that guy, --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/Khu5iBF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:05:31 PM #14: |
Are people getting more mad about
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Joe_Biden 12/27/20 7:06:36 PM #15: |
Kimbos_Egg posted...
are you fucking serious with this shit? They literally stole his body and fucked with it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't belong to him.it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing there was no one to rape. --- "If we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimbos_Egg 12/27/20 7:07:20 PM #16: |
Joe_Biden posted...
it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing No he didn't. And he got his body back later anyway, but okay. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/Khu5iBF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:14:31 PM #17: |
Joe_Biden posted...
it's literally not his body anymore since he stopped existing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:16:16 PM #18: |
Yeah, I guess its silly that the stone
Why do people need to have these weird-ass bad-faith misinterpretations to justify why they dislike [Thing]? --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:18:21 PM #19: |
PK_Spam posted...
Are people getting more mad aboutIm not sure what movie youre referencing, but just because you condemn one, doesnt mean you condone the other. Both are bad. Just like it was bad in that 80s movie when a dude has sex with a girl in the dark and she thinks its her bf. (I think it was one of the Revenge Of The Nerds movies) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:21:09 PM #20: |
The circumstances in Revenge of the Nerds were entirely different.
Youre looking too much into a thing the movie barely addresses because its not an important part of the story. Its just to add extra angst/give Diana a reason to maybe connect with this man later on in movie 3. The intention wasnt to have her rape him repeatedly ffs, its just silly superhero magic --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:21:24 PM #21: |
PK_Spam posted...
Yeah, I guess its silly that the stoneBecause the movie has TWO different attempted rapes in it (one of which Diana herself prevented); and it paints a hypocritical character study of her. Not to mention that it gives the impression that its okay when this stuff happens to a guy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 12/27/20 7:22:06 PM #22: |
Ah yes, nothing like arguing over whether a fantasy scenario constitutes rape or not.
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:27:13 PM #23: |
Zareth posted...
Ah yes, nothing like arguing over whether a fantasy scenario constitutes rape or not.I mean if the same scenario happened to a woman, and women were (rightly so) offended by it, there wouldnt even be an argument. Itd be accepted that the scenario was framed in poor taste. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:27:24 PM #24: |
DJquackquack posted...
Because the movie has TWO different attempted rapes in it (one of which Diana herself prevented); and it paints a hypocritical character study of her. Not to mention that it gives the impression that its okay when this stuff happens to a guy.Did we watch the same movie? That dude was going to I get being critical of media but... uh... this aint it chief. --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joe_Biden 12/27/20 7:28:00 PM #25: |
DJquackquack posted...
that doesn't matter though. at the time, that guy did not exist. the person in the body was someone else, entirely. it was, for all intents and purposes, that dudes body now. --- "If we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:38:20 PM #26: |
PK_Spam posted...
Did we watch the same movie? That dude was going toHave you ever seen the movie Get Out? What happened to this dude is identical to what happened to the black folks in Get Out. If youre defending this, youre defending that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:38:49 PM #27: |
Joe_Biden posted...
that doesn't matter though.See my above post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:40:09 PM #28: |
DJquackquack posted...
Have you ever seen the movie Get Out? What happened to this dude is identical to what happened to the black folks in Get Out. If youre defending this, youre defending that.Uh... sure, whatever. I mean, its NOTHING like that and the circumstances are 100% different but... okay --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joe_Biden 12/27/20 7:41:43 PM #29: |
it is absolutely not even remotely the same thing as what happened in get out
in wonder woman, it's a magic wish stone that literally just switches the place of these two people. original guys soul goes to heaven, he's essentially dead, and in his body was put the soul of someone else who was previously dead. in get out, they put their brain into other people, but somehow the original persons consciousness remains in their body even if their brain isn't (which makes no sense at all given the context of what happened). in wonder woman, the original guy is not in that body anymore. --- "If we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/27/20 7:43:43 PM #30: |
Did you guys know that this is a stupid topic?
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:44:01 PM #31: |
PK_Spam posted...
Uh... sure, whatever.Yeah, no. You put somebodys brain in somebody elses body without their consent. The only difference is how it was done. It wasnt cool then and it isnt now. The only difference is Get Out painted it like the negative situation it rightfully is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:47:47 PM #32: |
In Get Out, a family of white people obsessed with the black form kidnap and brain swap black bodies because they believe them to be better than white ones.
In Wonder Woman, a stone made by a trickster god with the explicit purpose of sowing discord like a monkeys paw situation puts one soul into another body and temporarily erases the original personality so that the person eventually looks exactly like the souls OG body, and ties back into the theme of you cant really be happy with false truths Youre reading way too much into this. --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:49:04 PM #33: |
Joe_Biden posted...
it is absolutely not even remotely the same thing as what happened in get outIt doesnt matter if his soul was removed. The second it was returned to that body, she raped him in retrospect. His body was used without his permission. If he stayed dead I could see your point, but dude got his body back, minus three days worth of sperm. What if the guy was gay? Do you think its fair that his body was used in a sex act that he wouldnt condone? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 7:51:02 PM #34: |
Im convinced Im really just trapped in my own personal hell world, holy shit
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:51:06 PM #35: |
PK_Spam posted...
In Get Out, a family of white people obsessed with the black form kidnap and brain swap black bodies because they believe them to be better than white ones.Its two equally fictitious procedures with exactly the same outcome. One is sci-fi brain surgery, the other is a magic stone. In neither case was it fair to the host. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 7:53:17 PM #36: |
PK_Spam posted...
Im convinced Im really just trapped in my own personal hell world, holy shitAt least we can agree on that. Conversing with you is definitely its own special form of hell. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dedbus 12/27/20 9:06:34 PM #37: |
So it's not rape if their consciousness leaves their body and another person says ok do what you want with their body?
I thought that we were advancing but it's clear we have a long way to go. Sucks for that guy when he finds out he has amazonian herpes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 9:16:39 PM #38: |
dedbus posted...
So it's not rape if their consciousness leaves their body and another person says ok do what you want with their body?Or when he has to pay child support on a super powered baby he doesnt even remember making. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 12/27/20 9:36:28 PM #39: |
Problematic, yes, we wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea about possessing other people's bodies with their psychic powers in order to have sex with their partner in a comic book from 1984.
This is a problem. One of the worst problems. *Eats Nestle chocolate produced by child slaves* --- why am I even here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 9:47:40 PM #40: |
Yellow posted...
Problematic, yes, we wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea about possessing other people's bodies with their psychic powers in order to have sex with their partner in a comic book from 1984.Its just a bad message to send is all. Especially because the movie goes out of its way to tackle the subject of rape. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Conner4REAL 12/27/20 11:03:38 PM #41: |
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.
she grew up eating pussy on a island full of chicks. --- "I pet my dog I don't eat it" ~ Lemone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 12/27/20 11:05:56 PM #42: |
That sounds like the plot for a sequel.
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PK_Spam 12/27/20 11:27:47 PM #43: |
Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.I was honestly getting huge lesbian vibes from Kristen Wig until she started simping for Pedro Pascal. Maybe shes one of those women who seeks validation from me due to social conditioning. She had way more chemistry with Gal Gadot, its not funny. --- "You don't have any thoughts of your own... You'd never understand what it is to deliberately stand against the world." -HCE to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 12/27/20 11:33:59 PM #44: |
Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes the movie fucked up.Batman would disagree. --- why am I even here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DJquackquack 12/27/20 11:41:54 PM #45: |
So like, what if she and Steve got that dude killed? Or what about his friends and family who were likely looking for him? And why does the movie go out of its way to show
Also what makes it all worse is that they never even say the guys name, not once in the entire movie. In fact the actor himself isnt even credited. Its like the dude just existed to be used by Steve and Diana. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 12/28/20 12:03:00 AM #46: |
Conner4REAL posted...
Wonder Woman isnt into dudes --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin2Krelian 12/28/20 12:08:43 AM #47: |
Rocky
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Blightzkrieg 12/28/20 2:44:44 AM #48: |
It was a super weird choice to have him possess that guy instead of just having him reappear.
Aside from whether or not it was rape, it just introduces a bunch of weird implications for no reason, that nobody seems to think about. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 12/28/20 7:55:34 AM #49: |
Not reading thread as i dont want spoilers but there was an adaptation of the amazons where that is precisely how they procreated. Theyd venture out and rape sailors. Any males that where born got sold off to be slaves to a Greek god. Iirc it was wonder woman who freed said males and it started to cause tension for her as queen cause the rest of the amazons wanted to stick to the tradition of no males on the island.
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BlazeAndBlade 12/28/20 10:32:32 AM #50: |
she done far worse things in the comics hell she even snaps guy's necks for looking her way.
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