Current Events > Covid relief bill will make illegal streaming a felony

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/the-covid-19-stimulus-bill-would-make-illegal-streaming-a-felony

completely broken country

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ok

why would you have a problem with this unless you plan to illegally stream
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the "rider" process needs abolished.

Random. Did they ban cow tipping in it too?

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that shit was added in lol god damn this country Youtubers in ruins

Philoktetes posted...

ok

why would you have a problem with this unless you plan to illegally stream

Perhaps because he believes making streaming copyrighted material a felony is absurd.

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Illegal streaming for commercial profit

Fair, next.

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A win win.

Dont stream illegal content and you wont have an issue.

It would cut down on the number of trash streamers too when people who stream need to have done their homework or else they land in the pokey. Most randos wont put in the effort and you will only have people who really care.

That and if you want to become a streamer, now would be your chance since the pnd will have many less fish in it. Its like going back in time but retaining all the info you know now.

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Tactical_Spork posted...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/the-covid-19-stimulus-bill-would-make-illegal-streaming-a-felony

completely broken country

"illegal streaming for commercial profit could become a felony"

I mean yea I agree with you the country is broken. Title is a hair on clickbaity side though.

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The Hanx needs all of his money.

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its cute you guys think this will just consider like literally making people pay for pirated content

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boot lickers will always be boot lickers best to just ignore them

Phynaster posted...

Illegal streaming for commercial profit

Fair, next.

Isn't this already the case?

So, will this effect twitch streamers? I'm honestly asking, cause of they get paid in donations, they're technically NOT making money off of the game their streaming right?
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I'm just rather confused.

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So this appears to mainly target restreamers of live content (I. E. NFL streams) from what I've been told.

Also been told that it specifically isn't targeting small players

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Oh this law certainly will NOT be abused to oblivion in any way.

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This is stupid. How are overseas streamers affected?

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VTBM posted...

This is stupid. How are overseas streamers affected?

American laws probably not at all

So it would be incredibly easy for trolls to get people banned this way.

Hmm...
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Questionmarktarius posted...

the "rider" process needs abolished.

Absolutely, it's insanely fucking stupid that politicians are allowed to force completely unrelated matters to be passed or rejected together.

But I mean, what else would I expect from a country whose courts insist that huge donations to politicians' election campaigns aren't a form of bribery that influences their decisions in any way.

wackyteen posted...

Also been told that it specifically isn't targeting small players

With how badly the music industry abuses the DCMA system, I'll believe that when I see it.

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Captain_Qwark posted...

You know that means live streaming yourself walking down the street would be a felony if a car with music playing drives by and you have a sub button

From bigger streamers who looked at this bill with actual lawyers, yeah this is pretty much exactly what could happen. Now those DMCA strikes that happen on accident sometimes could wind up landing you in jail instead of just getting your videos or vods taken down.

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My opinion: this will gum up the courts so bad that itll be deemed unenforceable. This will essentially cause fair use to be hard defined, rather then being a loose interpretation. Essentially the only thing this will effect is the random person doing one off streams.

Chances are itll be challenged in courts anyways as something like this cant be just shoved in something like this.
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Crono99 posted...

But a more important question is...

... why the fuck is this in a Covid relief bill?

Take that shit out and put it in a bill that has something to do with streaming and media instead of trying to sneak shit in the law by piggybacking it on a completely unrelated bill.

Seriously something has to be done to stop this incredibly disingenuous practice.

You know why. It's absolutely bullshit and in any sort of logical world would be an outright banned practice. But here we are in America... >.>

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Questionmarktarius posted...

the "rider" process needs abolished.

Agreed, it wouldn't be quite as bad if they didn't slip so much sneaky shit like this into bills that are in public concious a "sure thing" like the COVID relief bill. If you vote against them because of the riders, the next election they throw up the ads that you're an evil bastard for opposing this bill, quietly ignoring the fact that a ton of money was going to stupid shit or it was setting up a new Government department, or it was banning something.

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Crono99 posted...

It's disgusting, tbh.

If you vote against the bill, your opponents will brandish you as having voted against much-needed relief for the people who are suffering in this Covid world.

If you vote for the bill, you're doing some lobby's bidding and letting them sneak stuff in the law that only benefits them at the expense of everyone else.

Yep exactly. It's text book corruption.

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Proto_Spark posted...

Isn't this already the case?

You're asking if illegal streaming is illegal?

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Instead of bitching about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com actually do something about it.

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
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voldothegr8 posted...

Instead of bitching about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com actually do something about it.

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

That's too much logic for the TC

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Regardless of whether or not it's a good idea, the wellbeing of citizens should not be contingent on corporate-appeasing bullshit.

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voldothegr8 posted...

Instead of bitching about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com actually do something about it.

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

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voldothegr8 posted...

Instead of bitching about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com actually do something about it.

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

It's almost like someone can do both.

But you got to feel clever and I know that's rare for you, so we'll let it slide.

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Philoktetes posted...

ok

why would you have a problem with this unless you plan to illegally stream

Because it was included in a COVID relief bill...

Why are things like this, completely unrelated to COVID relief, being thrown into this bill? What else is there? This kind of legislating is bull shit. Bills should he single subject so that people know what is actually happening.

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Is this the same proposal to make DMCA content a felony with jailtime?

Edit: Well then. So, it's really happening then.

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Whoever added this in should get life in prison. There is absolutely no reason for that to be a felony.

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I don't even care anymore. The internet has been tamed and dead for years now. Google underestimated the cost of exponential data being uploaded to their site and want YouTube to be more like network television so they can sell advertising. There are more important issues, like censoring allegations of corruption and fraud in the government so who cares about some copyright dispute.

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@_@

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Seems like something that can easily be abused to sway internet content.

That said, I fall on the side of pro piracy, so like I disagree with it on the face anyway.

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So what makes a stream illegal content? And financial compensation? Isn't that what all streamers do?

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WilliamPorygon posted...

First of all that attitude and mindset is why shit stains like Tillis get away with this kind of bullshit. Second if everyone contacts their representatives, the goal is that other reps from other states will put pressure on him. It's certainly better than doing nothing and does occasionally work.
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It's already this way in a lot of countries, all this means is you need to get what essentially boils down to a rubber stamp from a company saying "Yes, you can stream this on your channel. Just don't do illegal shit while doing it."

Honestly most game makers will probably just set up an automated system if it gets too heavy.

Is it annoying though? Yeah.

wackyteen posted...

So this appears to mainly target restreamers of live content (I. E. NFL streams) from what I've been told.

Also been told that it specifically isn't targeting small players

If you actually believe that, I have some land I want to sell you.

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That likely is the intent of the law, but we can't make a law specifically for that without inevitably fucking up legitimate streaming services so it has to be vague which punishes literally everyone else.

LightHawKnight posted...

If you actually believe that, I have some land I want to sell you.

Time to go raid WCO, before the feds do.