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ToPoPO 12/15/20 10:19:01 PM #1: |
And of course it just has to be first before the Moderna one which is much easier to handle and administer
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monkmith 12/15/20 10:20:10 PM #2: |
if you live near a hospital its fine. bigger issue if you're in the middle of nowhere.
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ToPoPO 12/15/20 10:26:04 PM #3: |
"using aseptic technique"
THIS BITCH JUST PUT HER GLOVES OVER THE VIAL @ 4:20 https://www.cvdvaccine-us.com/dosing-and-administration ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 12/15/20 10:28:07 PM #4: |
Doesn't it have to be kept at like -90 degrees?
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ToPoPO 12/15/20 10:28:10 PM #5: |
tell me how are you going to get underwaged techs and lower rung health care workers to handle and prepare this shit with no training in <1 week and follow all the handling procedures with dry ice, not injure themselves and waste product, etc.
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monkmith 12/15/20 11:37:33 PM #6: |
ok, so just a reminder, the vaccine base is a saline solution. so obviously, when its injected into you its going to have to be above freezing...
the -90F temps you see thrown around is for longer term storage and shipping. its stored at that temp to prevent the mRNA molecules from breaking down. they bring it up to between 35 and 70F before injecting you with it, it can maintain that temp without degrading too much for hours. so essentially, the training for administration is little different from flu vaccine training. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/15/20 11:41:29 PM #7: |
monkmith posted...
the -90F temps you see thrown around is for longer term storage and shipping.So... I don't get to keep the dry ice after getting the shot? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 12/15/20 11:42:09 PM #8: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
So... I don't get to keep the dry ice after getting the shot?no, i'm sorry, they dont give you a chunk to hold up against the injection site. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arcanine2009 12/15/20 11:42:36 PM #9: |
Accolon posted...
Doesn't it have to be kept at like -90 degrees?What monkmith said. -90c is for long term storage. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/15/20 11:43:22 PM #10: |
monkmith posted...
no, i'm sorry, they dont give you a chunk to hold up against the injection site.Aww... I like to suck on it, then peel off a layer of tongue a couple days later. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FursonaNonGrata 12/15/20 11:44:29 PM #11: |
>not injecting ice into your veins
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ChopinList 12/15/20 11:46:49 PM #12: |
ToPoPO posted...
tell me how are you going to get underwaged techs and lower rung health care workers to handle and prepare this shit with no training in <1 week and follow all the handling procedures with dry ice, not injure themselves and waste product, etc. Isn't it being done on health care workers first. If anything goes wrong its them that are fucked since they the first adopters. --- I for one welcome our new computer overlords ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 12/15/20 11:54:42 PM #13: |
monkmith posted...
if you live near a hospital its fine i want the pfizer one. it prevents severe covid symptoms if it doesn't work 100%. i'll take that if given the chance. i have 3 underlying conditions :( diabetes isn't one of em. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jx1010 12/16/20 12:06:14 AM #14: |
So humanitys survival now depends on pfizer and moderna?
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kingdrake2 12/16/20 12:07:06 AM #15: |
Jx1010 posted...
So humanitys survival now depends on pfizer and moderna? 2 for now. more candidates will appear in time. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 12/16/20 12:07:40 AM #16: |
lol why is it a nightmare?
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MKScorpion 12/16/20 12:11:40 AM #17: |
Let the professionals do their job. You probably aren't even qualified to be talking on it.
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ToPoPO 12/16/20 5:11:23 PM #18: |
MKScorpion posted...
Let the professionals do their job. You probably aren't even qualified to be talking on it. lmao i'm going to be mixing it kiddo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ludwig Von 2 12/16/20 5:12:25 PM #19: |
Take the vaccine
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harley2280 12/16/20 5:21:46 PM #20: |
kingdrake2 posted...
monkmith posted...if you live near a hospital its fine This is the first time I have ever seen someone give a frown about not having diabetes. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 12/16/20 5:26:06 PM #21: |
Accolon posted...
Doesn't it have to be kept at like -90 degrees?Chicken has to be cooked to 165 degrees, isn't that to hot to eat? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dingydang166 12/16/20 5:33:00 PM #22: |
kingdrake2 posted...
i want the pfizer one. it prevents severe covid symptoms if it doesn't work 100%. i'll take that if given the chance. ....I am so confused why you brought up diabetes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/16/20 5:34:30 PM #23: |
kingdrake2 posted...
i want the pfizer one. it prevents severe covid symptoms if it doesn't work 100%. i'll take that if given the chance. No vaccine works 100%. Measles is the most effective one at 98% --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 12/16/20 5:35:14 PM #24: |
Live somewhere civilized.
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COVxy 12/16/20 5:37:14 PM #25: |
Doesn't seem too complicated.
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ToPoPO 12/16/20 5:51:27 PM #26: |
COVxy posted...
Doesn't seem too complicated. Yeah, totally, that's why my bosses aren't even following the procedures on how to do it as it says on their website. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 12/16/20 5:53:50 PM #27: |
ToPoPO posted...
Yeah, totally, that's why my bosses aren't even following the procedures on how to do it as it says on their website. Sounds like your bosses suck lol. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 12/16/20 5:54:32 PM #28: |
Maybe Funky Cold Moderna would be better, but I'll take what I can get, when I can get it.
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Unknown5uspect 12/16/20 6:04:18 PM #29: |
ToPoPO posted...
Yeah, totally, that's why my bosses aren't even following the procedures on how to do it as it says on their website.Have you fucking said something about that yet? Because maybe you should. --- #Riot2020 Eat The Rich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 12/16/20 6:22:34 PM #30: |
Jx1010 posted...
So humanitys survival now depends on pfizer and moderna?I mean... theres still a 99% chance youll survive covid if you got it anyways... --- WittleJimmyJimmyjumper ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 12/16/20 6:24:31 PM #31: |
COVxy posted...
Doesn't seem too complicated.Its pretty shit compared to Modernas. Really hoping Pfizer isnt used in the general public push like its fine for this first wave but wew lad if that has to be what retail pharmacies get --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 12/16/20 6:26:56 PM #32: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Its pretty shit compared to Modernas. Really hoping Pfizer isnt used in the general public push There's like an extra dose or two in the vial and they say to just toss that shit away lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/16/20 6:27:00 PM #33: |
They don't pay us enough for this
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DezDroppedFreak 12/16/20 6:28:16 PM #34: |
Wait hold up is there a push to get pharma techs to be the ones to administer en masse?
That sounds like a horrible idea if so --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 12/16/20 6:30:30 PM #35: |
Dingydang166 posted...
I am so confused why you brought up diabetes. we're all confused. even that time in which that user said not to have sex with others in a pandemic (no matter how hot they happen to be). --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 12/16/20 6:30:50 PM #36: |
COVxy posted...
Sounds like your bosses suck lol. Actually they're extremely intelligent and for all you know they could have unreleased stability data on the vaccine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/16/20 6:31:42 PM #37: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Wait hold up is there a push to get pharma techs to be the ones to administer en masse?Yes and yes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 12/16/20 6:32:08 PM #38: |
Where zombies?
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Vampire_Wreath 12/16/20 6:38:52 PM #39: |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/pfizer-vaccine-extra-doses-447117
FDA saying that you can use the extra doses and Pfizer didn't even know about it: The federal government has not publicly announced the guidance; Pfizer learned of the change this afternoon. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/16/20 6:43:37 PM #40: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Its pretty shit compared to Modernas. Really hoping Pfizer isnt used in the general public push The Pfizer vaccine is even more effective than the Moderna vaccine. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ludwig Von 2 12/16/20 6:44:57 PM #41: |
Just get whatever vaccine you can first. Doesnt matter which one, anything is better than nothing and the sooner the better.
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CyricZ 12/16/20 6:45:55 PM #42: |
I'm not an expert or nothin' but should ToPoPo be talking so candidly about the noncompliance of his workplace?
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Tyranthraxus 12/16/20 6:45:57 PM #43: |
Ludwig Von 2 posted...
Just get whatever vaccine you can first. Doesnt matter which one, anything is better than nothing and the sooner the better. I'm not in first wave so gonna have to wait. I hope I can get it by February. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 12/16/20 6:45:58 PM #44: |
JTilly posted...
I mean... theres still a 99% chance youll survive covid if you got it anyways...There's a pretty big spectrum of COVID effects between "you live" and "you die". None of them good. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 12/16/20 6:46:38 PM #45: |
CyricZ posted...
I'm not an expert or nothin' but should ToPoPo be talking so candidly about the noncompliance of his workplace?CE is deep web. He's fine. His employer won't find this. --- Wake up. You have to wake up. *currently a preta/hungry ghost* Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 12/16/20 6:54:29 PM #46: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The Pfizer vaccine is even more effective than the Moderna vaccine.https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/15/946554638/ fda-analysis-of-moderna-covid-19- vaccine-finds-it-effective-and-safe https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech- conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine Will have to delete the space 95 vs 94% with the 94% logistically being much easier to mass rollout --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/16/20 7:01:54 PM #47: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Will have to delete the spaceJust to linebreaks next time. It's easier to copy/paste that way. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/16/20 7:02:03 PM #48: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Will have to delete the space Yes Moderna is easier to mass produce but Pfizer isn't "shit" it's actually stronger and if you can get it then you should. There's no need to wait for the Moderna one. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 12/16/20 7:02:38 PM #49: |
CyricZ posted...
I'm not an expert or nothin' but should ToPoPo be talking so candidly about the noncompliance of his workplace? Guy with no knowledge on administration and preparation: hurr very easy everyone else: sounds awful and like a nightmare ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 12/16/20 7:08:09 PM #50: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Yes Moderna is easier to mass produce but Pfizer isn't "shit" it's actually stronger and if you can get it then you should. There's no need to wait for the Moderna one.You misread what I was calling shit about it, though granted I was not very clear in that post. I wasnt arguing an efficacy standpoint, though all data points to them essentially being the same. I meant from a storage, stability, and transportation standpoint. One that can be easily be stored in a regular freezer is always going to beat out one that has to have special equipment for long term storage, micromanaged inventory beyond any other product if you dont have that storage, and high transportation costs for a mass rollout. --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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