Current Events > So after the Cyberpunk disaster, can we all agree From stands atop all RPG devs?

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SocialistGamer 12/14/20 7:55:56 PM #1:	Hmm?? --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:948339657] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hmm?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 12/14/20 7:56:57 PM #2:	From software makes the best games since. 2009 --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:948339690] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>From software makes the best games since. 2009 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/14/20 7:57:47 PM #3:	Their games barely qualify as RPGs tbh --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:948339715] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Their games barely qualify as RPGs tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Marka_Ragnos_ 12/14/20 7:57:56 PM #4:	Nihon Falcom>Everyone else <cite>_Marka_Ragnos_ posted [p:948339717] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Nihon Falcom>Everyone else </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeRodonExprien 12/14/20 7:58:05 PM #5:	Nope, because their games are barely RPGs, are boring and have no story. <cite>JoeRodonExprien posted [p:948339724] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Nope, because their games are barely RPGs, are boring and have no story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/14/20 7:59:13 PM #6:	I miss classic Bioware. Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age etc. Those are the games I want and nobody is giving them to me. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948339760] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I miss classic Bioware. Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age etc. Those are the games I want and nobody is giving them to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/14/20 7:59:13 PM #7:	from software has been remaking the same damn game for a decade... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:948339761] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>from software has been remaking the same damn game for a decade... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/14/20 8:00:16 PM #8:	Darmik posted... I miss classic Bioware. Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age etc. Those are the games I want and nobody is giving them to me. maybe baldurs gate 3? i know they releases an early version or preview or something but i've not really heard anything about it since. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:948339791] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I miss classic Bioware. Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age etc. Those are the games I want and nobody is giving them to me.</quote>maybe baldurs gate 3? i know they releases an early version or preview or something but i've not really heard anything about it since. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 12/14/20 8:00:52 PM #9:	I mean I'd play any of CDPR's games before a From game. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:948339820] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I mean I'd play any of CDPR's games before a From game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/14/20 8:01:58 PM #10:	Darmik posted... I miss classic Bioware Darmik posted... I miss classic Bioware Darmik posted... I miss classic Bioware This. No RPG aside from Fallout New Vegas can even come close to DAO. Oh, speaking of Obsidian, KOTOR2 <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948339851] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I miss classic Bioware</quote> Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I miss classic Bioware</quote> Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I miss classic Bioware</quote> This. No RPG aside from Fallout New Vegas can even come close to DAO. Oh, speaking of Obsidian, KOTOR2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeRodonExprien 12/14/20 8:03:12 PM #11:	Hippocrates posted... Fallout New Vegas... KOTOR2 Speaking of broken games <cite>JoeRodonExprien posted [p:948339900] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted...</cite> <quote>Fallout New Vegas... KOTOR2 </quote> Speaking of broken games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/14/20 8:03:44 PM #12:	From games are barely RPGs --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:948339920] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>From games are barely RPGs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoeRodonExprien 12/14/20 8:05:08 PM #14:	ArianaGrandSlam posted... lol okay Ah yes reading a wiki = big brain story <cite>JoeRodonExprien posted [p:948339969] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>ArianaGrandSlam posted...</cite> <quote> lol okay </quote> Ah yes reading a wiki = big brain story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/14/20 8:05:43 PM #15:	JoeRodonExprien posted... Speaking of broken games shrug I played NV years after the fact so I never noticed. KOTOR2 was incomplete, not broken afaik Also, those games had some form of AI, player agency, and role-playing. Which going off what I've heard Cyberpunk is quite sparse on <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948339989] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>JoeRodonExprien posted... </cite> <quote>Speaking of broken games</quote>shrug I played NV years after the fact so I never noticed. KOTOR2 was incomplete, not broken afaik Also, those games had some form of AI, player agency, and role-playing. Which going off what I've heard Cyberpunk is quite sparse on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 12/14/20 8:06:53 PM #17:	Hippocrates posted... Which going off what I've heard Ah yes, seems like a reasonable, well informed opinion. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:948340028] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted... </cite> <quote>Which going off what I've heard</quote>Ah yes, seems like a reasonable, well informed opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/14/20 8:07:07 PM #18:	I'd rather play some terrible Kemco RPG. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:948340040] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather play some terrible Kemco RPG. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/14/20 8:07:38 PM #19:	TendoDRM posted... Ah yes, seems like a reasonable, well informed opinion. <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948340063] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>TendoDRM posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes, seems like a reasonable, well informed opinion.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/14/20 8:07:45 PM #20:	Hippocrates posted... Also, those games had some form of AI, player agency, and role-playing. Which going off what I've heard Cyberpunk is quite sparse on It has the same form of AI, player agency and role playing as the Wotcher 3, which is the best RPG ever made. <cite>Grogu posted [p:948340069] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted...</cite> <quote>Also, those games had some form of AI, player agency, and role-playing. Which going off what I've heard Cyberpunk is quite sparse on </quote> It has the same form of AI, player agency and role playing as the Wotcher 3, which is the best RPG ever made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/14/20 8:08:06 PM #21:	Hippocrates posted... This. No RPG aside from Fallout New Vegas can even come close to DAO. Oh, speaking of Obsidian, KOTOR2 KOTOR2 was an unfinished mess but yeah new vegas had a good story. in a perfect world, where microsoft owns both companies and actually uses them to their full extent, they'd have the writers from obsidian working with the game developers from bethesda on the next fallout or elder scrolls. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:948340084] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted... </cite> <quote>This. No RPG aside from Fallout New Vegas can even come close to DAO. Oh, speaking of Obsidian, KOTOR2</quote>KOTOR2 was an unfinished mess but yeah new vegas had a good story. in a perfect world, where microsoft owns both companies and actually uses them to their full extent, they'd have the writers from obsidian working with the game developers from bethesda on the next fallout or elder scrolls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/14/20 8:08:37 PM #22:	Grogu posted... It has the same form of AI, player agency and role playing as the Wotcher 3, which is the best RPG ever made. I doubt that, but it is on my list. Wanna beat the first two first - #1 is rough I keep bailing on it <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948340101] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>It has the same form of AI, player agency and role playing as the Wotcher 3, which is the best RPG ever made.</quote>I doubt that, but it is on my list. Wanna beat the first two first - #1 is rough I keep bailing on it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 12/14/20 8:11:24 PM #24:	I love FROM, but they're like a reverse cyberpunk in that their pc ports are normally garbage. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:948340211] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I love FROM, but they're like a reverse cyberpunk in that their pc ports are normally garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeRodonExprien 12/14/20 8:12:33 PM #25:	ArianaGrandSlam posted... thank God we have modern cinematic games to tie me down and force feed me an hour of story while taking my controls away so I never have to think ArianaGrandSlam posted... Now playing: Yakuza: Like A Dragon LMAO <cite>JoeRodonExprien posted [p:948340259] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>ArianaGrandSlam posted...</cite> <quote>thank God we have modern cinematic games to tie me down and force feed me an hour of story while taking my controls away so I never have to think </quote> ArianaGrandSlam posted...</cite> <quote>Now playing: Yakuza: Like A Dragon</quote> LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Divinehero 12/14/20 8:49:45 PM #27:	Hippocrates posted... I doubt that, but it is on my list. Wanna beat the first two first - #1 is rough I keep bailing on it yea witcher 1's gameplay is a little.... wonky --- Every time I hear "The Big Bang Theory" I imagine God having sex with something and BOOM the Universe was created. - PatrickSim <cite>Divinehero posted [p:948341727] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted... </cite> <quote>I doubt that, but it is on my list. Wanna beat the first two first - #1 is rough I keep bailing on it</quote> yea witcher 1's gameplay is a little.... wonky </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 12/14/20 8:53:35 PM #28:	Not at all. They're a very niche developer, and they keep putting out variations of the same thing again and again. I preferred them when they were making things like Eternal Ring, Evergrace, and Amored Core. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:948341872] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Not at all. They're a very niche developer, and they keep putting out variations of the same thing again and again. I preferred them when they were making things like Eternal Ring, Evergrace, and Amored Core.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 12/14/20 8:54:11 PM #29:	I loved jade empire New rpgs suck --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:948341897] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I loved jade empire New rpgs suck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 12/14/20 8:56:49 PM #30:	SocialistGamer posted... Hmm?? Hahahaha no DS1 had to be remade to get rid of the terrible FPS drops DS2 had to be released a second time to fix the FPS bug on durability DS3 still has loading time problems in firelink and broken hitboxes Bloodborne still has terrible FPS drops and so glitching into walls Sekiro is fun tho --- for the alcohlics https://www.aa.org/ <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:948342008] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>SocialistGamer posted...</cite> <quote>Hmm?? </quote> Hahahaha no DS1 had to be remade to get rid of the terrible FPS drops DS2 had to be released a second time to fix the FPS bug on durability DS3 still has loading time problems in firelink and broken hitboxes Bloodborne still has terrible FPS drops and so glitching into walls Sekiro is fun tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 12/16/20 3:09:18 AM #31:	all RPG devs Besides the leveling mechanic, what does it have that makes it an RPG rather than an action game with RPG elements? --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:948392412] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote><quote>all RPG devs</quote>Besides the leveling mechanic, what does it have that makes it an RPG rather than an action game with RPG elements? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 12/16/20 3:12:03 AM #32:	StarReaper13 posted... all RPG devs Besides the leveling mechanic, what does it have that makes it an RPG rather than an action game with RPG elements? Skill checks. However I also think it's more action game with RPG elements. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:948392445] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>StarReaper13 posted...</cite> <quote><quote> all RPG devs</quote>Besides the leveling mechanic, what does it have that makes it an RPG rather than an action game with RPG elements?</quote> Skill checks. However I also think it's more action game with RPG elements.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/16/20 3:14:31 AM #33:	probably Larian Studios --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:948392478] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>probably Larian Studios </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 12/16/20 3:19:47 AM #34:	I love From games way too much, but no. They're consistent quality wise lately though which might be even better. I'm gonna say Larian might be. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:948392561] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I love From games way too much, but no. They're consistent quality wise lately though which might be even better. I'm gonna say Larian might be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/16/20 3:28:00 AM #35:	From is awesome but comparing them in RPG standards to the likes of Atlus and Square-Enix is just ridiculous. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:948392693] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>From is awesome but comparing them in RPG standards to the likes of Atlus and Square-Enix is just ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 12/16/20 3:48:18 AM #36:	Atlus and Persona say hi --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight <cite>teepan95 posted [p:948392939] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>Atlus and Persona say hi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/16/20 3:55:17 AM #37:	idk, at least From tries to do something new with each of its games; starting with Persona 3, each subsequent entry has felt like the same thing with only a new setting and better graphics being the only notable changes. --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:948393014] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>idk, at least From tries to do something new with each of its games; starting with Persona 3, each subsequent entry has felt like the same thing with only a new setting and better graphics being the only notable changes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 12/16/20 4:00:14 AM #38:	g0ldie posted... idk, at least From tries to do something new with each of its games; starting with Persona 3, each subsequent entry has felt like the same thing with only a new setting and better graphics being the only notable changes. Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:948393063] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted...</cite> <quote>idk, at least From tries to do something new with each of its games; starting with Persona 3, each subsequent entry has felt like the same thing with only a new setting and better graphics being the only notable changes. </quote> Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 12/16/20 4:06:14 AM #39:	From stands on top of most other developers, period --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:948393122] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>From stands on top of most other developers, period </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 12/16/20 4:08:26 AM #40:	I just can't get into from software games. Granted, Dark Souls 1 is the only one i've tried, but the general feel isn't doing it for me. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:948393150] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I just can't get into from software games. Granted, Dark Souls 1 is the only one i've tried, but the general feel isn't doing it for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/16/20 4:10:25 AM #41:	harley2280 posted... Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations. maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations? I think I might have been conflating things because I played P2 in the middle of P4 & P5. interesting. I'll give you the gun thing, though --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:948393174] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations.</quote>maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations? I think I might have been conflating things because I played P2 in the middle of P4 & P5. interesting. I'll give you the gun thing, though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 12/16/20 4:27:43 AM #42:	stygian software --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:948393396] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>stygian software </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 12/16/20 4:35:38 AM #43:	g0ldie posted... harley2280 posted... Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations. maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations? I think I might have been conflating things because I played P2 in the middle of P4 & P5. interesting. I'll give you the gun thing, though Instead of negotiates they had this thing where you picked a card after a fight and it would either be a demon/health/MP or something like that. You couldn't just negotiate and recruit like in classic SMT. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:948393491] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote> Nah there have been massive QoL changes, and some solid changes to the battle system like the addition of Guns, or returning to demon negotiations.</quote>maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations? I think I might have been conflating things because I played P2 in the middle of P4 & P5. interesting. I'll give you the gun thing, though</quote> Instead of negotiates they had this thing where you picked a card after a fight and it would either be a demon/health/MP or something like that. You couldn't just negotiate and recruit like in classic SMT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 12/16/20 4:37:06 AM #44:	g0ldie posted... maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations? P5 is the one with negotiations, I think. I haven't played it yet, though --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight <cite>teepan95 posted [p:948393507] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted...</cite> <quote>maybe it's been a while since I've played P3 & P4, but neither one had demon negotiations?</quote> P5 is the one with negotiations, I think. I haven't played it yet, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seitar 12/16/20 5:18:47 AM #45:	I'd say From has proven themselves to be the better devs all around. --- PSN: Seitar-Hubbe <cite>Seitar posted [p:948394008] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>I'd say From has proven themselves to be the better devs all around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 12/16/20 11:53:48 AM #47:	monkmith posted... maybe baldurs gate 3? i know they releases an early version or preview or something but i've not really heard anything about it since. It's really good and a lot of content packed into the Early Access. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:948402728] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>maybe baldurs gate 3? i know they releases an early version or preview or something but i've not really heard anything about it since.</quote> It's really good and a lot of content packed into the Early Access. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 12/16/20 11:53:51 AM #48:	SrRd_RacinG posted... From software makes the best games since. 2009 But Armored Core was 1997 --- https://imgur.com/m6Rgs8D https://imgur.com/qUMZhdW https://imgur.com/LACtH6q <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:948402731] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>SrRd_RacinG posted...</cite> <quote>From software makes the best games since. 2009 </quote> But Armored Core was 1997</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 12/16/20 11:54:36 AM #49:	It took me forever to figure out that topic title. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:948402759] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>It took me forever to figure out that topic title. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 12/16/20 11:57:45 AM #50:	pinky0926 posted... I just can't get into from software games. Granted, Dark Souls 1 is the only one i've tried, but the general feel isn't doing it for me. This. Dark Souls 1 felt like shit to me. I actually liked the difficulty but the gameplay was really unimpressive imo --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ Latest Pickup: Off-White Jordan V Sail <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:948402883] in So after t... [t:79175822]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>I just can't get into from software games. Granted, Dark Souls 1 is the only one i've tried, but the general feel isn't doing it for me.</quote>This. Dark Souls 1 felt like shit to me. I actually liked the difficulty but the gameplay was really unimpressive imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > So after the Cyberpunk disaster, can we all agree From stands atop all RPG devs? (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > So after the Cyberpunk disaster, can we all agree From stands atop all RPG devs?