Current Events > "Please don't play Cyberpunk 2077 on a base Xbox One or PS4."- IGN

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https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-for-xbox-one-and-playstation-4-review



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Calling an RPG is an overstatement.

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What about One X and PS4 Pro

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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

What about One X and PS4 Pro

It plays fine on Pro. I don't have a One X but I assume it's fine too.

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well i have an og ps4 used for 20 dollars next year or whenever it hits 20 with all the updates should be better

40/100

400/1000

4,000/10,000

40,000/100,000

400,000/1,000,000

4,000,000/10,000,000


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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

What about One X and PS4 Pro

One X has higher resolution but not as good framerate
PS4 Pro has lower resolution but a better framerate

PS4 Pro is overall better since the framerate on the One X sucks and hovers around 25fps in the open world.

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Tmaster148 posted...

Calling an RPG is an overstatement.

How is Cyberpunk not an RPG?

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I'm playin on xbox one S with limited issues. Two crashes and some visual bugs, as well as a minor sliding issue when im trying to tightwalk rope on an edge and it ends up shooting me forward way too fast

nothing gamebreaking though although my blood pump just stopped working for some reason, maybe it's because i changed my OS but i dont see anything that indicates that blocks anything

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hockeybub89 posted...

How is Cyberpunk not an RPG?

Because I dont like it

hockeybub89 posted...

How is Cyberpunk not an RPG?

Because at the best it's an action-adventure game. And it's fine if people like that, but Cyberpunk is far cry from being the huge rpg CDPR promised people at the start.

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Tmaster148 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

How is Cyberpunk not an RPG?

Because at the best it's an action-adventure game. And it's fine if people like that, but Cyberpunk is far cry from being the huge rpg CDPR promised people at the start.

Even the devs are calling it an action adventure game now.
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Too much base. Not enough treble.

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The whole point of a console was to play good exclusive games that you can just load up and play

So when literally none of that is true anymore what the fuck is the point of buying them

Mark_McGrath posted...

The whole point of a console was to play good exclusive games that you can just load up and play

So when literally none of that is true anymore what the fuck is the point of buying them

Ah yes Ill just boot us Ghost of Tsushima and Last of Us 2 on my battlestation

JoeRodonExprien posted...

Ah yes Ill just boot us Ghost of Tsushima and Last of Us 2 on my battlestation

How do they run on regular PS4?

Oh wait that's right

Also I didn't say exclusives didn't exist anymore. It's just at the point where there's hardly any worth justifying buying a console especially when it will be obsolete within 3 years.

Mark_McGrath posted...

How do they run on regular PS4?

Great

Mark_McGrath posted...

How do they run on regular PS4?

Oh wait that's right

Also I didn't say exclusives didn't exist anymore. It's just at the point where there's hardly any worth justifying buying a console especially when it will be obsolete within 3 years.

I bought a PS4 pro after my gaming PC and have been having way more fun on the PS4
big shrug

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The fact that a game that the reviewer is urging his readers not to play still manages a 4/10 is insane.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

The fact that a game that the reviewer is urging his readers not to play still manages a 4/10 is insane.

I don't think it's that odd tbh. There's so many games out there that it's not ridiculous to suggest that it's not even worth buying the <6/10 games.

Cyberpunk is not a 0/10 game no matter how badly they fucked up this launch.

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IGN are a bunch of cry babies, have no had any issues with the game nor have my friends.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

IGN are a bunch of cry babies, have no had any issues with the game nor have friends.

We know.
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At least not yet if you're on the fence. CDPR is committed to fixing it and the first patch they released a few days ago already improved things a bit. Supposed to be another one in a few days.

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https://i.redd.it/w5fb57q1va561.jpg

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Faith in gaming journalism completely restored .
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

What about One X and PS4 Pro

This is what I've been wondering. The slim is good but it's gonna keep up even worse compared to PS5 with games that need more horsepower like these.

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Godnorgosh posted...

That assessment kinda sounds like it's trashing the hardware more than the game. If your game doesn't perform properly on last-gen hardware that handles other games just fine, don't release it on that hardware. Otherwise, you deserve to get your butt chewed for it.

I agree, but contractual obligation is a bitch.

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"Also I didn't say exclusives didn't exist anymore. It's just at the point where there's hardly any worth justifying buying a console especially when it will be obsolete within 3 years."

Pros and cons my man. Everyone knows PC is where it's at if you want the latest and best everything (most of the time.)

It should be ALL the time but for example Resident Evil 7 I got to play on PlayStation VR and I loved it. Should it be on PCVR? Yup but it's not. Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition? Not on PC either. Persona 5 Royal was a big deal for me, having my friends and my girlfriend and being able to play games with them is awesome, and PS4 Pro can run what I need it to run right now. If it can't? I play on PC.

Outdated within 3 years is pushing it. The fact just is that a lot of people don't care enough to invest more in something else and they have fun on what the console can do, which is what's important.

What doesn't make sense is why it bothers people. If I have a nice car, why should I care that other people have inferior cars? Enjoy having what you have. You're just wasting time and wasting part of your life worrying about what other people like. That's what I think :)

For example I love my car, but I don't see the point in constantly asking people "why do you drive that?" but that's just me.

Also, since I don't game as much as I used to, the games that I missed out on end up being from last gen and enhanced already on console. It's a cheap machine of fun. It's simple to understand.

Sometimes people want a cheap console to play with their friends online (thankfully that's changing since more games are becoming cross console multi-player which is great) and instead of investing in both a console and a pc, they invest in other stuff. It could be anything. It could be instruments, sports equipment, car stuff, their motorcycle, their other hobbies.

There's just way more to life than being narrow minded all the time. Also, I only play co-op games these days with friends/family but hacking is a big issue on PC as well. It happens on consoles too but it seems rampant on PC.

At the end of the day, a console or a pc doesn't get you any bitches xD. Only you should care what you are playing. Nobody's gonna be impressed. Just play what you want :D

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So does this mean moving forward for the next year or 2 that every game should have a next gen and last gen review? Or should reviewers be better at explaining that their review score was based off of high end PC specs that the overwhelming majority of gamers don't have.

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Jiggy101011 posted...

So does this mean moving forward for the next year or 2 that every game should have a next gen and last gen review? Or should reviewers be better at explaining that their review score was based off of high end PC specs that the overwhelming majority of gamers don't have.

Reviews tend to highlight the performance difference on different hardware anyway, but it's rarely such a controversy that it requires an entirely new review written about it


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Jiggy101011 posted...

So does this mean moving forward for the next year or 2 that every game should have a next gen and last gen review? Or should reviewers be better at explaining that their review score was based off of high end PC specs that the overwhelming majority of gamers don't have.

Literally every prerelease review went out of their way to stress they only got to play it on PC. If all you can bothered to do is look at a number then thats on you.

Guess I'm not playing it then, because I'm sure as shit not shelling out for a next gen console or a good gaming PC anytime soon

I really hope (but don't expect) this will be the death of preordering.

I mean I know it won't be, but I hope Gamers with a capital G are shook errywhere

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At some point base last gen console owners have to take responsibility. I wouldnt expect my seven year old rig to run this game wel at all, despite being able to buy it and install it. CDPR deserve criticism for deception and releasing this game on old consoles, but its out there now, you know it simply doesnt work on Xbox One or PS4. Dont buy it or get your refund. Move on, or invest in some tech that can run it.

Godnorgosh posted...

That assessment kinda sounds like it's trashing the hardware more than the game. If your game doesn't perform properly on last-gen hardware that handles other games just fine, don't release it on that hardware. Otherwise, you deserve to get your butt chewed for it.

It's totally fair to chew out a company for releasing a version on a machine that cant handle it.
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AzurexNightmare posted...

What doesn't make sense is why it bothers people. If I have a nice car, why should I care that other people have inferior cars? Enjoy having what you have. You're just wasting time and wasting part of your life worrying about what other people like. That's what I think :)

Not a good analogy. It would make more sense if you said my car's parts were worse because they need to work in a shitty car as well.

Modern consoles are bad for gaming in general because it limits their potential.

Mark_McGrath posted...

Modern consoles are bad for gaming in general because it limits their potential.

On the flip side, without them no publisher could justify the investment required to reach anywhere near that potential.

Mark_McGrath posted...

Not a good analogy. It would make more sense if you said my car's parts were worse because they need to work in a shitty car as well.

Modern consoles are bad for gaming in general because it limits their potential.

Rant incoming. Nothing personal, promise.

I'm gonna say outright now that I find this conversation extremely boring because it seems no matter how many times you say "I just like this experience more" hardware dorks will always try to quantify fun-levels in terms of gigahertz, but with that disclaimer said -

There's just something nice about having a neat little console tucked under my TV and it's quiet and simple and I just play the game that has been well-optimised by some other tech wizards for a standardised system.

Sometimes this is more fun than having a big noisy battlestation that smashes my electricity bill because it puts out 1.21 jiggawatts of power and takes up half my living room and often requires spending hours fiddling about with graphics card and display settings because no game company can possibly optimise their software perfectly for every conceivable hardware variation, all for the pleasure of getting out some higher fidelity textures and framerates.

You'll get no argument from me that a PC can easily outperform a console, could be cheaper in the long run, could be set up to be simple and optimised, could be discreetly wall-mounted in your living room, and so on.

... but you're gonna struggle to convince me that any of that is easier to achieve than just...buying a console and plugging it in. And yes, modern consoles contain more setup than I would like, but still far less than any gaming PC I've ever tried to maintain.

I'd invite you to consider that playing games is for a lot of people not their main preoccupation or hobby. For some filthy casuals like myself, it's something I'd probably spend an hour or two in a week on at best. Now add up all that time you spend optimising your rig (and be honest) and you might see the problem I have with wanting to join the PC master race.

And I know you'll want to argue about this and that's fine but before you do can you let me know if you have a desk chair with racing stripes on it?

In a way you guys are a bit remind me of home brew beer enthusiasts. You'll talk my damn ear off about how you can DIY your ale and it works out at 30c a pint and you get better and fresher flavours but I see you motherfuckers. 40% of your garage space is taken up by vats and equipment that you spent hundreds of dollars on (and will continue to spend on with no end in sight) waiting on beer that will be ready in 3-6 months, all on the premise of saving money and time.

Face it. You're enthusiasts. You enjoy the craft.

And that's cool. Your hobby is cool. Just, you know...don't be a goober about it.

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Grogu posted...

At some point base last gen console owners have to take responsibility. I wouldnt expect my seven year old rig to run this game wel at all, despite being able to buy it and install it. CDPR deserve criticism for deception and releasing this game on old consoles, but its out there now, you know it simply doesnt work on Xbox One or PS4. Dont buy it or get your refund. Move on, or invest in some tech that can run it.

Strongly disagree with what you said.

1. This game was first shown in 2013 when even the PS4 Pro and One X weren't even a thing.

2. They are still advertising the game on base Xbox Ones and PS4s on their respective store pages. If you advertise a game for a platform it needs to be able to run on that platform.

3. CDPR specifically went out of their way to hide how the base consoles ran this game. When it came to The Witcher 3 we knew months in advance it was going to top at 540p in handheld mode.

4. Their are 115m+ base PS4s and about 70m+ base Xbox Ones out in the wild. CDPR stated about 55% of its preorders were for PC. That means 45% fall somewhere on console hardware that again does not play this game well at all.

At the end of the day if Microsoft, Sony, and CDPR all have to make a statement that they will issue refunds no questions asked then im baffled how you say its the gamers fault. It shouldnt be "fuck entitled gamers" but instead we should be asking how did this game pass certification on 2 consoles.

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Jiggy101011 posted...

Strongly disagree with what you said.

1. This game was first shown in 2013 when even the PS4 Pro and One X weren't even a thing.

2. They are still advertising the game on base Xbox Ones and PS4s on their respective store pages. If you advertise a game for a platform it needs to be able to run on that platform.

3. CDPR specifically went out of their way to hide how the base consoles ran this game. When it came to The Witcher 3 we knew months in advance it was going to top at 540p in handheld mode.

At the end of the day if Microsoft, Sony, and CDPR all have to make a statement that they will issue refunds no questions asked then im baffled how you say its the gamers fault.

Also

5) people are being refused refunds by sony

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pinky0926 posted...

Also

5) people are being refused refunds by sony

Thats just Sony being once again terrible at support. Give it 24 hours and im sure they will start giving back refunds once their name is raked through the Twitter coals.

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Truly a buyer beware situation. I would say gamers have learned something about hype culture but I know nobody has learned anything here.

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Im not absolving CDPR for their deception or arrogance of releasing the game on last gen hardware. Games get pushed back and cancelled for systems all the time, their ambition outgrew the hardware and they should have made it next gen and PC only.

My point is, its no longer a secret anymore. So take responsibility for the fact you dont have the tech to run the game so either move on and dont buy it, get your refund if you already bought it or buy the tech required to run the game. Its that simple.

Grogu posted...

At some point base last gen console owners have to take responsibility. I wouldnt expect my seven year old rig to run this game wel at all, despite being able to buy it and install it. CDPR deserve criticism for deception and releasing this game on old consoles, but its out there now, you know it simply doesnt work on Xbox One or PS4. Dont buy it or get your refund. Move on, or invest in some tech that can run it.

This game was hyped for years for last gen consoles. What kinda backwards ass logic is that.

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WrestlinFan posted...

This game was hyped for years for last gen consoles. What kinda backwards ass logic is that.

Grogu posted...

Im not absolving CDPR for their deception or arrogance of releasing the game on last gen hardware. Games get pushed back and cancelled for systems all the time, their ambition outgrew the hardware and they should have made it next gen and PC only.

My point is, its no longer a secret anymore. So take responsibility for the fact you dont have the tech to run the game so either move on and dont buy it, get your refund if you already bought it or buy the tech required to run the game. Its that simple.

Ill be sure to save that quote for when they patch the game to hell and back and get it running decently on base consoles in six months. What exactly do you think makes Cyberpunk impossible to run on base consoles? The groundbreaking AI? The open world that has less square feet than Witcher 3? I think this game can run decently on base hardware but Its obvious a decision was made to give very little attention to base platforms to instead focus on PC and One X/PS4 Pro.

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pinky0926 posted...

Rant incoming. Nothing personal, promise.

I'm gonna say outright now that I find this conversation extremely boring because it seems no matter how many times you say "I just like this experience more" hardware dorks will always try to quantify fun-levels in terms of gigahertz, but with that disclaimer said -

There's just something nice about having a neat little console tucked under my TV and it's quiet and simple and I just play the game that has been well-optimised by some other tech wizards for a standardised system.

Sometimes this is more fun than having a big noisy battlestation that smashes my electricity bill because it puts out 1.21 jiggawatts of power and takes up half my living room and often requires spending hours fiddling about with graphics card and display settings because no game company can possibly optimise their software perfectly for every conceivable hardware variation, all for the pleasure of getting out some higher fidelity textures and framerates.

You'll get no argument from me that a PC can easily outperform a console, could be cheaper in the long run, could be set up to be simple and optimised, could be discreetly wall-mounted in your living room, and so on.

... but you're gonna struggle to convince me that any of that is easier to achieve than just...buying a console and plugging it in. And yes, modern consoles contain more setup than I would like, but still far less than any gaming PC I've ever tried to maintain.

I'd invite you to consider that playing games is for a lot of people not their main preoccupation or hobby. For some filthy casuals like myself, it's something I'd probably spend an hour or two in a week on at best. Now add up all that time you spend optimising your rig (and be honest) and you might see the problem I have with wanting to join the PC master race.

And I know you'll want to argue about this and that's fine but before you do can you let me know if you have a desk chair with racing stripes on it?

In a way you guys are a bit remind me of home brew beer enthusiasts. You'll talk my damn ear off about how you can DIY your ale and it works out at 30c a pint and you get better and fresher flavours but I see you motherfuckers. 40% of your garage space is taken up by vats and equipment that you spent hundreds of dollars on (and will continue to spend on with no end in sight) waiting on beer that will be ready in 3-6 months, all on the premise of saving money and time.

Face it. You're enthusiasts. You enjoy the craft.

And that's cool. Your hobby is cool. Just, you know...don't be a goober about it.

Wow. You sound exactly like a good friend of mine. Good rant

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WrestlinFan posted...

Ill be sure to save that quote for when they patch the game to hell and back and get it running decently on base consoles in six months. What exactly do you think makes Cyberpunk impossible to run on base consoles? The groundbreaking AI? The open world that has less square feet than Witcher 3? I think this game can run decently on base hardware but Its obvious a decision was made to give very little attention to base platforms to instead focus on PC and One X/PS4 Pro.

Well thats a different scenario. In six months it might be a viable product and itll probably even be discounted by then. Im talking about the here and now, not in six months time.