Poll of the Day > #MeToo ALERT: NY Gov latest Politician Accused...

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https://news.yahoo.com/former-development-aide-accuses-cuomo-183823882.html

Think it's legit?

No way to know. The accuser doesnt provide any details other than claiming she was sexually harassed. What is known is that there is documentation that she was encouraged to resign based on unprofessional behavior.

Now you could argue that maybe her behavior was in response to being mistreated in the workplace, but again, theres simply no way for people to know without details. In my opinion posting accusations on social media but also saying you dont want to talk to journalists doesnt exactly lend you any credibility.

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Whats really sad is that since its an accusation against a democrat, the media and other vocal liberals will question it. They did the same thing with very credible allegations against Biden. Everyone needs to take these types of allegations seriously no matter what the political party of the person being accused is.

I'm sure all the Republicans who were screaming themselves breathless about how Kavanaugh should be considered completely and totally innocent unless and until security cam footage and DNA testing proving him guilty emerges and that until then we should treat the allegations as though they are completely made up lies will be around to post in this topic in Cuomo's defence any second now...

MartianManchild posted...

Whats really sad is that since its an accusation against a democrat, the media and other vocal liberals will question it. They did the same thing with very credible allegations against Biden. Everyone needs to take these types of allegations seriously no matter what the political party of the person being accused is.

Hey, look one of them's already here!

Oh... that's weird, it's almost like he's saying the totally opposite thing of what Republicans were saying about Kavanaugh and is instead now parroting what the Democrats had insisted all along in that's case. That's very strange. Heck, I'd almost think it was hypocritical, but I'm sure the Trump cultists have a great explanation that will clear it right up.

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#TimesUP

darkknight109 posted...

I'm sure all the Republicans who were screaming themselves breathless about how Kavanaugh should be considered completely and totally innocent unless and until security cam footage and DNA testing proving him guilty emerges and that until then we should treat the allegations as though they are completely made up lies will be around to post in this topic in Cuomo's defence any second now...

Hey, look one of them's already here!

Oh... that's weird, it's almost like he's saying the totally opposite thing of what Republicans were saying about Kavanaugh and is instead now parroting what the Democrats had insisted all along in that's case. That's very strange. Heck, I'd almost think it was hypocritical, but I'm sure the Trump cultists have a great explanation that will clear it right up.

Not once did I say Republicans shouldnt be held to the same standard. Everyone should take any sexual assault or harassment allegation seriously no matter who it is against. All youve done is shown your own hypocrisy and bias with you post.

MartianManchild posted...

Not once did I say Republicans shouldnt be held to the same standard. Everyone should take any sexual assault or harassment allegation seriously no matter who it is against. All youve done is shown your own hypocrisy and bias with you post.

In what way? Calling out Republicans on their bias and hypocrisy is not, in and of itself, biased or hypocritical and that's literally all I've done with my post.

If you truly believe that Republicans and Democrats should be held to the same standard - and, by your posting history, you clearly don't but I'll humour you - then you and I are in complete agreement. If you want to know my full views on the Cuomo situation, I believe that the allegations should be looked into and thoroughly investigated and, if they're determined to be credible, I believe that Cuomo should face the relevant professional and legal penalties for his behaviour, which may include removal from office and/or criminal charges.

Which, y'know, was exactly what I was advocating for Kavanaugh a couple years ago, but Republicans insisted that was the height of injustice at the time. It's just so weird how they've been changing their tune now that it's a Democrat standard bearer on the hot seat...

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MartianManchild posted...

Whats really sad is that since its an accusation against a democrat, the media and other vocal liberals will question it. They did the same thing with very credible allegations against Biden. Everyone needs to take these types of allegations seriously no matter what the political party of the person being accused is.

what happened to Al Franken again?

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Given everything I've seen regarding Cuomo over the years, I can kinda believe it. Not that anything is likely to happen. He'll have feminists rally around him and they'll question his accuser's credibility. Cuomo's allies will use their political influence to stall or kill her career. Honestly, if one of them is likely to be out of a job after this, it's more likely to be her.

That said, these accusations pertain to events that happened just a few years ago and, if an investigation isn't blocked, hopefully people will be honest with investigators so that the truth -- whatever it actually is -- becomes known.

darkknight109 posted...

I'm sure all the Republicans who were screaming themselves breathless about how Kavanaugh should be considered completely and totally innocent unless and until security cam footage and DNA testing proving him guilty emerges and that until then we should treat the allegations as though they are completely made up lies will be around to post in this topic in Cuomo's defence any second now...

Bam, right off the bat with a whataboutism making a completely false equivalence! Never change, Knight.

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Zeus posted...

Bam, right off the bat with a whataboutism making a completely false equivalence!

Congratulations on not knowing what either of those terms mean.

You seem extra salty lately. Still upset that your boy lost the election?

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Hug it out, guys. Hug it out. :)

Cuomo? Would not be surprised. He's such a terrible human being.

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pionear posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/former-development-aide-accuses-cuomo-183823882.html

Think it's legit?

Let's find out!

Lindsey Boylan tweeted that the Democratic governor sexually harassed me for years. Many saw it, and watched.

Sounds like there should be multiple witnesses to confirm her claims, if true.

She did not provide details of the alleged harassment and didn't immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press. Boylan later tweeted, To be clear: I have no interest in talking to journalists. I am about validating the experience of countless women and making sure abuse stops.

Smells like bull shit! And that's my exact same reaction when similar bs is spewed regarding a Republican target.

I tried to quit three times before it stuck. Ive worked hard my whole life. Hustled fake it till you make it style, she wrote. That environment is beyond toxic. Im still unwrapping it years later in therapy!
Personnel memos written in 2018, obtained by The Associated Press, indicate that Boylan resigned after she was confronted about complaints about her own office behavior.
Several women complained to Empire State Developments human resources department that Ms. Boyland had behaved in a way towards them that was harassing, belittling, and had yelled and been generally unprofessional," wrote the administrations ethics officer, Julia Pinover Kupiec in one memo.
Boylan resigned after meeting with officials including Cuomos top lawyer, Alphonso David, to be counseled about the complaints.

Looks like we found the true harasser. And who the fuck would describe a government/policy job as "faking it till you make it"? Yikes.

Boylan ran against U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler in the 2020 Democratic primary, garnering 22% of the vote in a campaign in which she argued that the incumbent wasnt progressive enough.

Gentle reminder to those on the right of who you're about to hitch your wagon to.

I don't think anyone here is in a position to assume whether the allegations are true or false. At the very least, I think people should be at least sensitive to the fact that it is a real possibility that this woman was sexually harassed. This doesn't mean that I would pass judgment on Cuomo either because like I said, I don't know if it actually happened. Part of the problem is that people think they know everything and then they are willing to insult other people because of differing views. What if you spent all your time and energy denying that someone was sexually abused, harassed, or even raped, only to find out that you were wrong? I wouldn't want to be that asshole. Then again, I personally know and have worked with people who are victims of rape, so that's why I tend to feel this way.

GunslingerGunsl posted...

I don't think anyone here is in a position to assume whether the allegations are true or false.

The correct way to deal with allegations like these are as follows:

1) Acknowledge that allegations of sexual impropriety are extremely serious and it also takes a great deal of courage for a victim to step forward. Acknowledge also that even the hint of sexual impropriety can destroy someone's life, even if the accusation later turns out to be without merit, and so it behooves the public to carefully consider the facts and not jump to conclusions.
2) Do not assume that the allegations are false until proven true.
3) Do not assume that the allegations are true until proven false.
4) Allow that there is a possibility for the allegations to be true and a possibility for the allegations to be false.
5) Allow investigators to do their job and for the full body of evidence to come forward before drawing conclusions on the veracity, or lack thereof, of the allegations.

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The problem is that for so long peoples' allegations were swept under the rug that it went from that extreme to "guilty until proven innocent", which isn't any better. But its the result the system sowed for years of ignoring blatant problems.

darkknight109 posted...

The correct way to deal with allegations like these are as follows:

1) Acknowledge that allegations of sexual impropriety are extremely serious and it also takes a great deal of courage for a victim to step forward. Acknowledge also that even the hint of sexual impropriety can destroy someone's life, even if the accusation later turns out to be without merit, and so it behooves the public to carefully consider the facts and not jump to conclusions.
2) Do not assume that the allegations are false until proven true.
3) Do not assume that the allegations are true until proven false.
4) Allow that there is a possibility for the allegations to be true and a possibility for the allegations to be false.
5) Allow investigators to do their job and for the full body of evidence to come forward before drawing conclusions on the veracity, or lack thereof, of the allegations.

Exactly this.

Why havent they arrested him yet

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darkknight109 posted...

Congratulations on not knowing what either of those terms mean.

You seem extra salty lately. Still upset that your boy lost the election?

classic zeus, i sometimes question if his posts are copy and pasted, and he's a functional illiterate, ok?

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