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DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:03:25 PM #1:	I can understand The Washington Football teams formal name being racist since its based on skin color. Indian though? Im not sure about that. The Cleveland Indians will be changing their name because its considered racists but Im not really sure it is. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948305241] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>I can understand The Washington Football teams formal name being racist since its based on skin color. Indian though? Im not sure about that. The Cleveland Indians will be changing their name because its considered racists but Im not really sure it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 12/13/20 11:04:28 PM #2:	Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:948305268] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 12/13/20 11:04:42 PM #3:	Might be more that their logo is a racial stereotype... --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:948305275] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Might be more that their logo is a racial stereotype... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 12/13/20 11:04:45 PM #4:	When referring to Native Americans "Indians" is incorrect and offensive. --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:948305278] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>When referring to Native Americans "Indians" is incorrect and offensive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:15:08 PM #5:	Iodine posted... Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. I understand that aspect. Clearly Native Americans arent Indian. However, the overall term isnt actually racist correct? It is more like it is being used incorrectly. The N word only has one definition so there is no dispute what so ever on that. Colorahdo posted... Might be more that their logo is a racial stereotype... That is what I was thinking. For that example, its more about the combination of the Logo and the name right? Which means that changing the logo should fix the issue correct? Im not trying to troll or be an ass or anything like that. Im legit trying to get an understanding. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948305618] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Iodine posted... </cite> <quote>Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'.</quote> I understand that aspect. Clearly Native Americans arent Indian. However, the overall term isnt actually racist correct? It is more like it is being used incorrectly. The N word only has one definition so there is no dispute what so ever on that. Colorahdo posted... </cite> <quote>Might be more that their logo is a racial stereotype...</quote> That is what I was thinking. For that example, its more about the combination of the Logo and the name right? Which means that changing the logo should fix the issue correct? Im not trying to troll or be an ass or anything like that. Im legit trying to get an understanding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/13/20 11:16:01 PM #6:	talking about natives to north america? then yes. it's an ignorant term for what they are it's fine if the people are actually from India though <cite>Zikten posted [p:948305645] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>talking about natives to north america? then yes. it's an ignorant term for what they are it's fine if the people are actually from India though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuayThai85 12/13/20 11:17:10 PM #7:	I hate how I have to specify South Asian Indians or" East Indians" whenever I say "Indian" since returning to Canada. I've always said "native". --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:948305696] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>I hate how I have to specify South Asian Indians or" East Indians" whenever I say "Indian" since returning to Canada. I've always said "native". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ooooooranges 12/13/20 11:17:22 PM #8:	It's offensive even if it's not necessarily racist. --- http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/2011/10/10/pujols_85507.jpg <cite>Ooooooranges posted [p:948305700] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>It's offensive even if it's not necessarily racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:17:23 PM #9:	Zikten posted... talking about natives to north america? then yes. it's an ignorant term for what they are it's fine if the people are actually from India though That is what I figured. --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948305702] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>talking about natives to north america? then yes. it's an ignorant term for what they are it's fine if the people are actually from India though</quote> That is what I figured. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 12/13/20 11:17:28 PM #10:	To some people the term "Native American" is a bit contrived. There are lots of native people who prefer to be called "indian". --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:948305706] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>To some people the term "Native American" is a bit contrived. There are lots of native people who prefer to be called "indian". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 12/13/20 11:18:14 PM #11:	A white man explaining how the name and his caricature isnt racist but please keep saying it isnt racist <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:948305719] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote> A white man explaining how the name and his caricature isnt racist but please keep saying it isnt racist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:19:27 PM #12:	CADE FOSTER posted... A white man explaining how the name and his caricature isnt racist but please keep saying it isnt racist This is blatantly different from what I was saying if you read through the topic --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948305752] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted... </cite> <quote> A white man explaining how the name and his caricature isnt racist but please keep saying it isnt racist</quote> This is blatantly different from what I was saying if you read through the topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 12/13/20 11:20:37 PM #13:	Strawman argument <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:948305786] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Strawman argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/13/20 11:21:13 PM #14:	No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh88fVP2FWQ If that's not good enough for you, here's an anti "washington football team" ad created by them and Indian is one of the first words they use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:948305804] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh88fVP2FWQ If that's not good enough for you, here's an anti "washington football team" ad created by them and Indian is one of the first words they use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:21:18 PM #15:	CADE FOSTER posted... Strawman argument Thats exactly what you just did LMAO --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948305807] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted... </cite> <quote>Strawman argument</quote> Thats exactly what you just did LMAO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 12/13/20 11:21:48 PM #16:	dont deflect <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:948305828] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>dont deflect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 12/13/20 11:24:31 PM #18:	Calling native Americans Indians is just kinda dumb, not racist --- Common sense is stupid - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:948305909] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Calling native Americans Indians is just kinda dumb, not racist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 12/13/20 11:28:53 PM #19:	How about American Indian? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/PmX8smn https://imgur.com/mwTy0iF https://imgur.com/FCER80e <cite>Middle hope posted [p:948306031] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>How about American Indian? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tainted_emerald 12/13/20 11:33:35 PM #20:	Smackems posted... Calling native Americans Indians is just kinda dumb, not racist It's basically an even more incorrect version of calling all asians Chinese. At least those nations are in close proximity. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose, and you will have altered its nature." - Gerald Tarrant <cite>tainted_emerald posted [p:948306169] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Calling native Americans Indians is just kinda dumb, not racist</quote>It's basically an even more incorrect version of calling all asians Chinese. At least those nations are in close proximity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:34:02 PM #21:	Tyranthraxus posted... No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh88fVP2FWQ If that's not good enough for you, here's an anti "washington football team" ad created by them and Indian is one of the first words they use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE I learned quite a bit from this. So the football team name was blatantly racist but Indians and Seminoles (Florida State) arent considered racist by most Indians? Thats what I took away from that --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948306180] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh88fVP2FWQ If that's not good enough for you, here's an anti "washington football team" ad created by them and Indian is one of the first words they use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE</quote> I learned quite a bit from this. So the football team name was blatantly racist but Indians and Seminoles (Florida State) arent considered racist by most Indians? Thats what I took away from that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
penguin223 12/13/20 11:41:15 PM #22:	I know the term American Indian is actually preferred by a lot of indigenous communities. --- penguins <3 <cite>penguin223 posted [p:948306387] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>I know the term American Indian is actually preferred by a lot of indigenous communities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 12/13/20 11:43:17 PM #23:	i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. --- Mahomes injury spirit bomb Number of people who have given their energy: 2 <cite>Northlane posted [p:948306441] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/13/20 11:44:59 PM #24:	Northlane posted... i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. In your opinion, is this Indian being racist thing more on the lines of people who arent Indian telling people how Indians feel? --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:948306492] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Northlane posted... </cite> <quote>i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing.</quote> In your opinion, is this Indian being racist thing more on the lines of people who arent Indian telling people how Indians feel? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 12/13/20 11:49:33 PM #25:	I'm joking I'm not actually Indian I was just referencing a really old copypasta --- Mahomes injury spirit bomb Number of people who have given their energy: 2 <cite>Northlane posted [p:948306637] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>I'm joking I'm not actually Indian I was just referencing a really old copypasta </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 12/13/20 11:50:53 PM #26:	Middle hope posted... How about American Indian? But then what about Indian Americans --- Common sense is stupid - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:948306679] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>How about American Indian?</quote>But then what about Indian Americans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShineboxPhil 12/13/20 11:52:16 PM #27:	Smackems posted... But then what about Indian Americans Don't call anyone from Pakistan that. --- YoJoe posted... Offensive jokes should at least be clever and funny. <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:948306719] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>But then what about Indian Americans</quote>Don't call anyone from Pakistan that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 12/13/20 11:53:11 PM #28:	ShineboxPhil posted... Don't call anyone from Pakistan that. I would probably just call them by their name Or dude --- Common sense is stupid - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:948306742] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>ShineboxPhil posted... </cite> <quote>Don't call anyone from Pakistan that.</quote>I would probably just call them by their name Or dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/14/20 12:45:07 AM #29:	DepreceV2 posted... I learned quite a bit from this. So the football team name was blatantly racist but Indians and Seminoles (Florida State) arent considered racist by most Indians? Thats what I took away from that Your takeaway should have been that being portrayed as mascots is not okay but it's super double extra not okay when your mascot is also a racist slur. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:948307956] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite> <quote> I learned quite a bit from this. So the football team name was blatantly racist but Indians and Seminoles (Florida State) arent considered racist by most Indians? Thats what I took away from that</quote> Your takeaway should have been that being portrayed as mascots is not okay but it's super double extra not okay when your mascot is also a racist slur. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_McGrath 12/14/20 12:48:21 AM #30:	Iodine posted... Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. They weren't Native "Americans" though either. The proper term is Indigenous Peoples <cite>Mark_McGrath posted [p:948308017] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. </quote> They weren't Native "Americans" though either. The proper term is Indigenous Peoples</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 12/14/20 12:50:47 AM #31:	Is the term "Chinese" racist ~~when using it to refer to koreans~~? that's not even a great example but hopefully you get the just of it, magaman <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:948308066] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Is the term "Chinese" racist when using it to refer to koreans? that's not even a great example but hopefully you get the just of it, magaman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 12/14/20 1:06:29 AM #32:	Naysaspace posted... Is the term "Chinese" racist ~~when using it to refer to koreans~~? that's not even a great example but hopefully you get the just of it, magaman https://youtu.be/d_CaZ4EAexQ --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/PmX8smn https://imgur.com/mwTy0iF https://imgur.com/FCER80e <cite>Middle hope posted [p:948308363] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Naysaspace posted... </cite> <quote>Is the term "Chinese" racist when using it to refer to koreans? that's not even a great example but hopefully you get the just of it, magaman</quote>https://youtu.be/d_CaZ4EAexQ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/14/20 1:08:52 AM #33:	i thought "indian" in this context meant indigenous --- Rain in the meadow beats the river to the ocean <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:948308399] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>i thought "indian" in this context meant indigenous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l--l 12/14/20 2:58:11 AM #34:	#SomethingElse --- l--l--l--l--l--l--l--l--l <cite>l--l posted [p:948310043] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>#SomethingElse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 12/14/20 3:02:32 AM #35:	Iodine posted... Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'. I can't imagine they are/were thrilled about being named after what their conquerors renamed their land either --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:948310102] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Iodine posted... </cite> <quote>Dude they aren't Indian tho. It never made any sense to call Native Americans 'Indian'.</quote> I can't imagine they are/were thrilled about being named after what their conquerors renamed their land either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chairoff 12/14/20 3:06:00 AM #36:	When applied to native Americans yes <cite>Chairoff posted [p:948310161] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>When applied to native Americans yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chairoff 12/14/20 3:08:08 AM #37:	Solid Snake07 posted... I can't imagine they are/were thrilled about being named after what their conquerors renamed their land either I mean the conquerors also named them Indians because Columbus and the conquistadors were idiots who couldnt navigate Natve Peoplea or First People is fine <cite>Chairoff posted [p:948310192] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I can't imagine they are/were thrilled about being named after what their conquerors renamed their land either</quote> I mean the conquerors also named them Indians because Columbus and the conquistadors were idiots who couldnt navigate Natve Peoplea or First People is fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 12/14/20 3:10:47 AM #38:	Indian isn't offensive if you're talking about someone from India. Indian is offensive if you're talking about someone who isn't from India. It's not that hard to comprehend. --- Make it through this year, if it kills you outright. Now Playing: Persona 5, Minecraft, Hyrule Warriors <cite>MrMallard posted [p:948310230] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Indian isn't offensive if you're talking about someone from India. Indian is offensive if you're talking about someone who isn't from India. It's not that hard to comprehend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chairoff 12/14/20 3:11:15 AM #39:	viewmaster_pi posted... i thought "indian" in this context meant indigenous No. It means Christopher Columbus is a dumbass who tried to sail to India but ended up in the New World <cite>Chairoff posted [p:948310241] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>i thought "indian" in this context meant indigenous</quote>No. It means Christopher Columbus is a dumbass who tried to sail to India but ended up in the New World </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_McGrath 12/14/20 3:12:56 AM #40:	Chairoff posted... No. It means Christopher Columbus is a dumbass who tried to sail to India but ended up in the New World The world was already there so idk why people call it the New World <cite>Mark_McGrath posted [p:948310256] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Chairoff posted...</cite> <quote> No. It means Christopher Columbus is a dumbass who tried to sail to India but ended up in the New World </quote> The world was already there so idk why people call it the New World</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Touch 12/14/20 3:13:44 AM #41:	Mark_McGrath posted... The world was already there so idk why people call it the New World Cuz Christopher Columbus watched Aladdin before his trip so he was inspired --- https://imgur.com/ZVrHdEl <cite>Touch posted [p:948310269] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Mark_McGrath posted... </cite> <quote>The world was already there so idk why people call it the New World</quote>Cuz Christopher Columbus watched Aladdin before his trip so he was inspired </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 12/14/20 3:27:08 AM #42:	Chairoff posted... I mean the conquerors also named them Indians because Columbus and the conquistadors were idiots who couldnt navigate Natve Peoplea or First People is fine I'd assume they'd probably prefer to be called by what they are, whether that's Cherokee, Sioux, Apache ect ect --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:948310442] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Chairoff posted... </cite> <quote>I mean the conquerors also named them Indians because Columbus and the conquistadors were idiots who couldnt navigate Natve Peoplea or First People is fine</quote> I'd assume they'd probably prefer to be called by what they are, whether that's Cherokee, Sioux, Apache ect ect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chairoff 12/14/20 3:43:58 AM #43:	Ideally but us citizens are ignorant of such things <cite>Chairoff posted [p:948310681] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>Ideally but us citizens are ignorant of such things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 12/14/20 6:09:48 AM #44:	No I've heard native american social advocates use it to refer to themselves. Although I guess if you're racist and use it in a demeaning way then sure. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:948312676] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>No I've heard native american social advocates use it to refer to themselves. Although I guess if you're racist and use it in a demeaning way then sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/14/20 6:11:04 AM #45:	TomNook20 posted... No I've heard native american social advocates use it to refer to themselves. Although I guess if you're racist and use it in a demeaning way then sure. well they don't know better than the white people being offended on their behalf --- Rain in the meadow beats the river to the ocean <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:948312698] in Is the ter... [t:79173912]...</cite> <quote>TomNook20 posted... </cite> <quote>No I've heard native american social advocates use it to refer to themselves. Although I guess if you're racist and use it in a demeaning way then sure.</quote>well they don't know better than the white people being offended on their behalf </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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