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wackyteen
12/11/20 7:45:02 AM
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This is all because "Won't somebody please think of the children?" and cracking down on child sexual abuse


https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2020/12/10/dutton-surveillance-bill-australia/

No ones safe under these laws: Surveillance Bill could target activists and downloaders

The Morrison governments proposed Surveillance Bill could be used to target everyone from Black Lives Matter campaigners to underage kids illegally downloading movies, critics have warned.
Victorians Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe told The New Daily that the sweeping powers proposed by the Bill have far-reaching implications for grassroots activists, and people standing up for their rights.
No ones safe under these new laws, Senator Thorpe said.

It will affect grassroots communities across the country, it will affect children. It will affect anybody who downloads a movie illegally over the internet they could go to jail for five years.
The proposed legislation gives the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission and, through those bodies, the Australian Signals Directorate three new powers to investigate and disrupt criminal activity online.

Under the laws, authorities could hack, secretly takeover, and add, copy, and delete material on computers and digital accounts anywhere in the world without the account-holders knowledge or consent.
Black Lives Matter campaigners, climate and forest activists, and others who use social media to protest and organise could be subjected to these invasive new laws that allow government agencies to infiltrate peoples social media platforms, change the wording, and have complete control over peoples personal social media platforms, Senator Thorpe said.
She slammed the Bill as just another way that [Home Affairs Minister Peter] Dutton is trying to stay relevant by bringing in these these laws that are intrusive into peoples lives.
Its an invasion of privacy, its a breach of human rights, and its more reason that we need a bill of rights in this country, Senator Thorpe said.
This government has a very bad track record on human rights violations and then introduce these sweeping laws that are about spying on their own community.
Mr Dutton introduced the Surveillance Legislation Amendment (Identity and Disrupt) Bill to parliament last Thursday and argued that the new legislation is needed to crack down on child sexual abuse and terrorism offences perpetrated under the cover of the dark web.

On Tuesday, Mr Dutton referred the Bill to the parliamentary joint committee on intelligence and security for review, with an outcome not expected until next year.
The New Daily put questions to Mr Dutton about the community consultation undertaken prior to the Bills introduction, the safeguards in place, and whether Australia needs a charter of human rights.

A statement from a spokesperson for the Attorney-Generals Department was provided in response, stating that the Bill includes strict oversight and review mechanisms.
Network activity warrants and data disruption warrants will only be available upon application to an eligible Judge or nominated AAT member, or magistrate in the case of account-takeover warrants, the statement said.
The Bill provides robust oversight by the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security for the network activity warrants, and the Commonwealth Ombudsman for the data disruption warrant and the account takeover warrant.

Two years ago, the government, with the support of Labor, rushed through the anti-encryption Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Act 2018, which forces telco and tech companies to hand over data to law enforcement authorities upon request.
The laws were justified as necessary to prevent terrorism, but were subsequently used to raid the ABC and the home of News Corp journalist Annika Smethurst following reporting on alleged Australian war crimes in Afghanistan.

Australia really trying to become Oceania, huh?

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Funkydog
12/11/20 7:47:56 AM
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Trying to one up us in the UK eh?

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UnfairRepresent
12/11/20 7:48:54 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Trying to one up us in the UK eh?
You're clearly lying about being in the UK since you criticized it

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Lordgold666
12/11/20 7:54:13 AM
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Thankfully, i have nothing to hide

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wackyteen
12/11/20 7:56:46 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Thankfully, i have nothing to hide
Don't worry if you piss them off, they'll make you have something to hide.

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wackyteen
12/11/20 11:24:08 AM
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I'm kind of hung up in the "anywhere in the world"

I get that it probably means "Austrailians anywhere in the world" but the wording in the article does make it seem like they can target anyone they want (which is insane and could be reasonably taken as infringing on the privacy rights of citizens of other nations and could reasonably perceived as a threat)

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Funkydog
12/11/20 11:26:03 AM
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wackyteen posted...
I'm kind of hung up in the "anywhere in the world"

I get that it probably means "Austrailians anywhere in the world" but the wording in the article does make it seem like they can target anyone they want (which is insane and could be reasonably taken as infringing on the privacy rights of citizens of other nations and could reasonably perceived as a threat)
Not like western governments aren't already doing this and we've had several (former) people of the agencies confirm it >.>

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wackyteen
12/11/20 11:27:31 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Not like western governments aren't already doing this and we've had several (former) people of the agencies confirm it >.>
Spying is one thing.

Hacking into and utilizing that ability to change the words of people you disagree with or you consider to be enemies of the state is another

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Funkydog
12/11/20 11:28:43 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Spying is one thing.

Hacking into and utilizing that ability to change the words of people you disagree with or you consider to be enemies of the state is another
True, it is taking it a step more. Likely will just be Australian citizens for this reason as no reason other countries will stand for it, even if they do it to their own citizens.

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wackyteen
12/11/20 9:39:07 PM
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Forgot i started my day with this lol

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Machete
12/11/20 9:46:15 PM
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I support this. It will help us win the war against Eastasia.
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darkmaian23
12/11/20 9:49:19 PM
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@Rika_Furude
I meant to tag you for the topic I made on the politics board, but this one will work just as well. What do you think? Is it likely to pass? Is it as bad as it looks?
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Rika_Furude
12/11/20 10:31:43 PM
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darkmaian23 posted...
@Rika_Furude
I meant to tag you for the topic I made on the politics board, but this one will work just as well. What do you think? Is it likely to pass? Is it as bad as it looks?
TBH I think it is. Our government is one of the most blatantly corrupt there is and they don't even try to hide it. Yet our population is so stupid they keep voting them back in, and they don't care that it harms them. I've lost any faith in our situation improving before some other country like the US starts putting tariffs on us for lack of climate action.

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ModLogic
12/11/20 10:37:14 PM
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relax guys, australia is a western nation. the west can do no wrong. even when wrong they are right.

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MrMallard
12/14/20 3:19:46 AM
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Forgettable posted...
More proof that Australia is just the UK but better.

And NZ is just Australia but better.

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MrMallard
12/14/20 3:37:27 AM
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And to address the @, yes this is fucked up. I don't really know how to prevent this, because it'll never get the attention it deserves through news aggregators like the Google homepage, and it'll never be hounded on by the Murdoch press.

Outside of folks like FriendlyJordies bringing this to wider attention, or getting prominent Labor figureheads like Kevin Rudd, Kristina Kenneally and Jodi McKay to make a strong, unavoidable public statement in opposition of these laws, I don't see this gaining wider attention. And the Liberal nuthuggers will definitely hug Scomo's nuts once again, saying that no measure is to great to stop crime.

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LightningAce11
12/14/20 3:49:04 AM
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The best we can do is make a lot of noise and vote these assholes out.

Thankfully Australia is a place where you can call a politician a c*** to their face and tell them to fuck off.
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Rika_Furude
12/14/20 4:06:30 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
The best we can do is make a lot of noise and vote these assholes out.
we couldnt do that last time though and are unlikly to do that next time

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ModLogic
12/14/20 4:07:23 AM
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darkmaian23
12/14/20 5:46:14 AM
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Can anyone say how likely this is to actually pass? I haven't heard about it on many mainstream news sites, and that's making me cross my fingers and hope.
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Rika_Furude
12/14/20 5:48:17 AM
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darkmaian23 posted...
Can anyone say how likely this is to actually pass? I haven't heard about it on many mainstream news sites, and that's making me cross my fingers and hope.
the just means its flying under the radar and nobody will care when it passes. anyone who dares speak out against it will just be labeled as a child abuse enabler

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TreyFlowers
12/14/20 6:17:35 AM
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Too far imo. Idc if the government is looking at my search history or whatever but the ability to change/copy/delete shit is too far

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Darmik
12/14/20 6:23:28 AM
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Fuck Scott Morrison and fuck Peter Dutton. Potato headed fuck

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darkmaian23
12/14/20 6:49:09 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
the just means its flying under the radar and nobody will care when it passes. anyone who dares speak out against it will just be labeled as a child abuse enabler
Yeah, but I haven't seen it on any American tech news sites, and even the EFF hasn't said anything yet. Do you really think it's that likely to pass?
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ZevLoveDOOM
12/14/20 6:52:50 AM
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everrything is upside down there apparently. even the laws... lol
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CADE FOSTER
12/15/20 10:40:17 PM
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A huge criminal island wants to do criminal things news at 11

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Darmik
12/15/20 10:50:25 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
A huge criminal island wants to do criminal things news at 11

@Darmik


Darmik posted...
Fuck Scott Morrison and fuck Peter Dutton. Potato headed fuck


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CADE FOSTER
12/15/20 10:53:17 PM
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lol oops
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wackyteen
12/17/20 7:27:06 AM
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darkmaian23 posted...
Yeah, but I haven't seen it on any American tech news sites, and even the EFF hasn't said anything yet. Do you really think it's that likely to pass?
Maybe it's not far enough in the Legistlative process to be fully concerned?

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guydude21
12/17/20 7:33:56 AM
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I click "accept"

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Mark_McGrath
12/17/20 7:39:28 AM
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i like how people are expecting the australian government to suddenly be antonio banderas hacking away at everybodys computers as if they will even be able to get past a simple VPN
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Tyranthraxus
12/19/20 4:49:36 AM
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Surely no Russian hackers will abuse the existence of such a thing were it to pass.

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ROBANN_88
12/19/20 5:11:23 AM
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wackyteen posted...
authorities could hack, secretly takeover, and add, copy, and delete material on computers and digital accounts

I understand the hacking, i get the copy part
The part about deleting is a bit odd

I do not understand what benefit they think they're gonna get from "adding material" on peooles computers.
The only thing i can imagine is if they want to plant evidence on someone to get them


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Questionmarktarius
12/19/20 6:42:16 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
The only thing i can imagine is if they want to plant evidence on someone to get them
Orwell-style gaslighting, on a global scale.
The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

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wackyteen
12/19/20 7:16:08 AM
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I do not understand what benefit they think they're gonna get from "adding material" on peooles computers.
The only thing i can imagine is if they want to plant evidence on someone to get them
Imagine being able to plant doctored conversations in your political opponents phones or servers.

Or being able to go in and alter their messaging.

You could create mass chaos and confusion.

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UnfairRepresent
12/25/20 6:01:47 AM
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WhereTwoFeom posted...
Thought people here would like an update on a new bill that makes trolling or "menacing" material a crime that could be up to 555k fines.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/23/coalition-bill-would-block-online-platforms-still-hosting-harmful-content-24-hours-after-takedown- notices
jeez

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Kaliesto
12/25/20 6:22:03 AM
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I'm convinced 1st World Countries are losing their minds.

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Questionmarktarius
12/25/20 11:14:26 AM
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Kaliesto posted...
I'm convinced 1st World Countries are losing their minds.
That fake Khrushchev quote was right all along.
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Buu_88
12/25/20 11:24:13 AM
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I just don't want to go to jail or get fined for downloading movies

We get fuck all streaming services here


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