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DarkRoast
12/09/20 8:27:02 PM
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Electric/Flying is such a good typing both defensively and offensively, and Zapdos has such perfectly balanced stats (especially for Gen I) for his typing.

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ButteryMales
12/09/20 8:29:15 PM
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I used to dream of a legit ice hidden power Zapdos with the highest IVs.
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Slaya4
12/09/20 8:32:07 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
I used to dream of a legit ice hidden power Zapdos with the highest IVs.
I used to run this on my Rain Dance team in B/W

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CM_Ponch
12/09/20 8:32:43 PM
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He's the coolest Kanto bird and the coolest Galar bird

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Puglia77
12/09/20 8:36:00 PM
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tote_all posted...
Easily achievable for years.

Also Hidden Power isn't a thing anymore.

I thought max IVs could only be HP Dark?
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ButteryMales
12/09/20 8:37:34 PM
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tote_all posted...
Easily achievable for years.
I haven't played since D/P. How would you do that? If I remember correctly back then you needed ~70 rare candies to legit test IVs. I think I got like 30 on fire red.
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J_Punky87
12/09/20 8:38:01 PM
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Rocks equals dead bird lol all the birds suck
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MegaCamerupt
12/09/20 8:38:32 PM
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Galarian Moltres is the best one now
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LostForest
12/09/20 8:44:44 PM
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Galarian Zapdos is cooler than regular Zapdos. Though regular Zapdos is cool too.

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ButteryMales
12/09/20 8:47:00 PM
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tote_all posted...
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Stats_judge#In_Generation_V
That doesn't seem precise enough to get a good ice hidden power.

Hyper training would be amazing afterwards though.
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PatrickMahomes
12/09/20 8:52:00 PM
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competitively yes but articuno design-wise

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Mark_McGrath
12/09/20 8:53:02 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Electric/Flying is such a good typing both defensively and offensively, and Zapdos has such perfectly balanced stats (especially for Gen I) for his typing.


imagine being weak against your own type
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MrFingers07
12/09/20 8:55:36 PM
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Mark_McGrath posted...
imagine being weak against your own type
They're not though >_>

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DigitalCamera
12/09/20 8:55:57 PM
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ZapUNO
ZapDOS
ZapTRES

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Doe
12/09/20 8:57:36 PM
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IS MOZART STILL ALIVE?!?!?!

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Holy shit, what about Stealth Rock then? What does competitive SwSh even look like?

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Mark_McGrath
12/09/20 8:58:18 PM
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tote_all posted...


That's a thing for plenty of good Pokemon and is also not a thing for Zapdos lol.


Electric is super effective against Zapdos
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MrFingers07
12/09/20 8:59:34 PM
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Doe posted...
IS MOZART STILL ALIVE?!?!?!

Holy shit, what about Stealth Rock then? What does competitive SwSh even look like?
Stealth Rocks is still a thing, but there's a new item that makes you immune to hazards. So stuff like Stealth Rocks/Toxic Spikes/Spikes/Sticky Webs can't touch/hurt you

It's a big reason why stuff like Moltres is popular this gen

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Doe
12/09/20 9:01:17 PM
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That's nice, always thought it was weird that the community let the entire meta center around that one move. If saccing an item slot to ignore it is making a lot more pokemon viable then I guess I'm okay with that compromise

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LostForest
12/09/20 10:33:35 PM
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Mark_McGrath posted...
Electric is super effective against Zapdos

Electric resists Electric.

It does neutral damage to Zapdos.

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Evening_Dragon
12/09/20 10:40:59 PM
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Mark_McGrath posted...
Electric is super effective against Zapdos

is stupid your gimmick, or

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AngelsNAirwav3s
12/09/20 10:41:02 PM
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I never even bothered catching the other birds in Gen 1, Zapdos was too OP

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rideshort
12/09/20 10:41:37 PM
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tote_all posted...
I prefer Moltres this gen. Flame Body is just too good on that bulky birb. I'll take the electric and water weaknesses.

You also forgot 4x weakness to Rock. Get streamrolled by that.

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BaphometFlux
12/09/20 10:52:05 PM
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Galarian Zapdos is king of the birds.

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MrFingers07
12/09/20 10:54:34 PM
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rideshort posted...
You also forgot 4x weakness to Rock. Get streamrolled by that.
I don't play the metagame but are rock moves that common?

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Doe
12/09/20 10:58:07 PM
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MrFingers07 posted...
I don't play the metagame but are rock moves that common?
4x Rock weakness means switching into Stealth Rock does 1/4th of your HP. Stealth Rock alone has walled dozens of Pokemon from being viable over the years. But now there's an item to ignore SR damage so these Pokemon can be used. Besides that you have Rock Slide and Stone Edge and that should be it.

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PokemonYoutube
12/09/20 11:01:07 PM
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MrFingers07 posted...
I don't play the metagame but are rock moves that common?
I wouldn't say Rock moves are commonly seen as coverage moves since most Rock moves aren't that good, but Ground-types usually carry a Rock move to hit Flying types with.

And Stealth Rock is of course a thing.
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Evening_Dragon
12/09/20 11:15:49 PM
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Doe posted...
4x Rock weakness means switching into Stealth Rock does 1/4th of your HP. Stealth Rock alone has walled dozens of Pokemon from being viable over the years. But now there's an item to ignore SR damage so these Pokemon can be used. Besides that you have Rock Slide and Stone Edge and that should be it.

1/2*, fixed. It's the bane of 'zard fans everywhere.

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Doe
12/09/20 11:24:04 PM
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One fucking half, I knew it was bad but holy christ. what a depressing mechanic, especially as a fan of types who coincidentally all get fucked by SR (flying, fire, ice)

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LostForest
12/10/20 12:39:45 AM
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MrFingers07 posted...
I don't play the metagame but are rock moves that common?

There's an attack called Stealth Rock where it acts as a battlefield hazard, and basically if your Pokemon is weak to rock attacks, it loses 25% of it's HP instantly as soon as it switches in, before any attacks happen.
With Pokemon doubly weak to rock like Moltres, they take a whopping 50% instantly. Half of their HP just for switching in.

It's a bullshit attachk that absolutely ruined great fire types like Charizard and Volcarona.

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DarkRoast
12/10/20 3:23:54 AM
#39:


Mark_McGrath posted...
Electric is super effective against Zapdos

No it isn't

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nfearurspecimn
12/10/20 3:29:54 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
No it isn't
I think it may have been gen 1 due to horrible programming oversights?

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ChocoboMog123
12/10/20 3:45:01 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I think it may have been gen 1 due to horrible programming oversights?
It wasn't, but it would say it was due to a glitch:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I#Dual-type_damage_misinformation

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Jshipp24
12/10/20 3:48:00 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I think it may have been gen 1 due to horrible programming oversights?
Technically in gen 1 if you hit Zapdos with a electric move it would play the sound effect of it being super effective but it would still do 1x Damage.
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nfearurspecimn
12/10/20 3:54:48 AM
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ah okay yeah I remembered something weird about it but wasn't sure thanks

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