Current Events > Belle Delphine is basically a Western version of a Japanese Idol

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 2:45:13 PM
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Makes you think.
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SSJKirby
12/08/20 2:45:34 PM
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Does it though

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 2:46:15 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
Does it though

Yes because she is clearly different than a standard insta model or a person with lots of fanbase.
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AP3Brain
12/08/20 2:46:59 PM
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Japanese Idols do nothing but sell half nudes and bath water?
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DocileOrangeCup
12/08/20 2:47:38 PM
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Strider102
12/08/20 2:47:41 PM
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Bobs

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Jabodie
12/08/20 2:48:06 PM
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What exactly does this make me think about?

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 2:48:38 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Don't Japanese idols actually do stuff like sing

Belle made a song I think.
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armandro
12/08/20 2:48:44 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Don't Japanese idols actually do stuff like sing
I thought she had a few songs out
or was she just lip syncing ?

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 2:50:16 PM
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armandro posted...
I thought she had a few songs out
or was she just lip syncing ?

Ye thot so
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MarthGoomba
12/08/20 2:50:25 PM
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The "western version" in that she's basically the exact opposite of the appeal of Japanese idols?
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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 2:50:58 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
The "western version" in that she's basically the exact opposite of the appeal of Japanese idols?

What do you mean by this? Because she is sexual?
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Tsuyoi3
12/08/20 2:52:34 PM
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Maybe more of a gravure model or whatever.

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DocileOrangeCup
12/08/20 2:52:38 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Belle made a song I think.
Oh God really

armandro posted...
I thought she had a few songs out
or was she just lip syncing ?
Oh shit OK I didn't know this but I mean isn't most of her stuff self done? Idols go out on stage and preform and stuff. She also seems too sexual in comparison to idols

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MarthGoomba
12/08/20 2:55:17 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What do you mean by this? Because she is sexual?

Yes

Japanese idols are built around their wholesome images

Bath water is the direct opposite of that
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A5modeu5
12/08/20 2:55:44 PM
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Background_Guy
12/08/20 2:58:14 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Yes

Japanese idols are built around their wholesome images

Bath water is the direct opposite of that

They're built around making horny men form a parasocial attachment and give them all their money. Just because they use slightly different tactics, it doesn't make them different.
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MarthGoomba
12/08/20 3:00:18 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
They're built around making horny men form a parasocial attachment and give them all their money.

Incorrect
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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 3:02:42 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Incorrect

Then why can't they have boyfriends?
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MarthGoomba
12/08/20 3:04:18 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Then why can't they have boyfriends?

Because that's sexual
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CE_gonna_CE
12/08/20 3:08:41 PM
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Lorthremar
12/08/20 3:10:05 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Because that's sexual
bro you're taking this way too personally

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R1masher
12/08/20 3:12:04 PM
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Have you seen her mom, makes you think

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Strider102
12/08/20 3:12:57 PM
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R1masher posted...
Have you seen her mom, makes you think

Pics of mom

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 3:22:44 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Because that's sexual

No, because the Otaku fans would be upset that they have to see them with another man.
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MarthGoomba
12/08/20 3:23:48 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
No, because the Otaku fans would be upset that they have to see them with another man.

Because that's sexual
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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 3:25:04 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Because that's sexual

In the west we had the sexual revolution.

Also, you think Otaku don't want the idol to be into them?
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Returning_CEmen
12/08/20 3:25:23 PM
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I dont see the comparison
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MedeaLysistrata
12/08/20 3:26:26 PM
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I can see the comparison to gravure model, but the comparison to idol is just wrong

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Kisai
12/08/20 3:26:37 PM
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I don't think Japanese Idols sell used bathwater or condoms, though.

WingsOfGood posted...
No, because the Otaku fans would be upset that they have to see them with another man.
Also this. The idol fanbase in Japan is insanely toxic like that. No way would Belle Delphine be able to do anything like she did as an idol.

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 3:27:47 PM
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Kisai posted...
Also this. The idol fanbase in Japan is insanely toxic like that. No way would Belle Delphine be able to do anything like she did as an idol.

Belle is gonna do porn with a guy. She is the Western version where women are empowered and expected to be sexual.
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R1masher
12/08/20 3:30:35 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Belle is gonna do porn with a guy. She is the Western version where women are empowered and expected to be sexual.

wait, thought there was like three topics where she was proven to be a lesbian

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Strider102
12/08/20 3:31:59 PM
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R1masher posted...
wait, thought there was like three topics where she was proven to be a lesbian

Apparently she is going to be doing stuff with another chick, according to her Twitter.

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 3:34:49 PM
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Either way, that disproves the thing about her not being able to do that like Idols and their upset Otaku fans.
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AP3Brain
12/08/20 3:56:30 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Belle is gonna do porn with a guy. She is the Western version where women are empowered and expected to be sexual.

So...you are saying porn stars don't exist in Japan?
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garan
12/08/20 5:09:20 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I can see the comparison to gravure model, but the comparison to idol is just wrong


^Someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
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Tyranthraxus
12/08/20 5:12:39 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Don't Japanese idols actually do stuff like sing

Yeah although most of their money comes from personalized memorabilia and fan interaction.

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BB mofo
12/08/20 5:45:07 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Background_Guy posted...

They're built around making horny men form a parasocial attachment and give them all their money.

Incorrect

True. Their main audience are teenagers, which is why they have to be clean cut and can't be seen dating. The labels also know they are dealing with horny male teens in the mix, which is why they will hypocritically sexualize them. Older men lusting after their idols is only a happy byproduct to them.

Japanese idols are more like Disney stars in that respect.

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 7:37:19 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yeah although most of their money comes from personalized memorabilia and fan interaction.

Hmmm.... sounds very familiar.....
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Tyranthraxus
12/08/20 7:44:43 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Hmmm.... sounds very familiar.....

They don't sell bathwater or used condoms if that's what you're getting at.

The thing is Idols have an IRL responsibility to the fanbase while streamers/tubers like Belle are expected only to make videos.

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WingsOfGood
12/08/20 8:44:36 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The thing is Idols have an IRL responsibility to the fanbase

Like what kinda responsibilities?
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Graycap
12/08/20 8:47:28 PM
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AP3Brain posted...
Japanese Idols do nothing but sell half nudes and bath water?

"Western version".

So the same thing just more shameless.
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Tyranthraxus
12/09/20 1:09:50 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Like what kinda responsibilities?

They do events where the fans get to actually meet them. Kinda like a book signing except without a book. Part of the trend banks on the approachability of the idols as opposed to celebrities which are essentially in a different world. Idols are like smaller celebrities that you can actually get to know personally, or at least that's what they try to come off as.

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Kami_no_Kami
12/09/20 1:19:09 AM
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Nah, h-game waifu at best. Based entirely on the second-hand knowledge I have, shes actually kinda the opposite of real-life Japanese idols since theyre generally 20-somethings who try to act like theyre pure and innocent but not necessarily like theyre that much younger than they are, whereas Delphine seems to try to look young to a somewhat uncanny-valley extent while acting anything but innocent. On the anime-front, idols tend to be (actual) young girls but still have the pure and innocent thing going on that Delphine seems to lack.
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