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Smashingpmkns
12/08/20 3:25:24 AM
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Which sucks. Was going to run a class that focused on stealth like I do in most games that give you the option. Doesn't look Ghost of Tsushima bad but the AI either seem pretty fucking dumb or insanely aware from the leaked footage I've seen
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DeadBankerDream
12/08/20 3:26:08 AM
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I can't imagine stealth not being shitty in a first person game.
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Jabodie
12/08/20 3:27:52 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I can't imagine stealth not being shitty in a first person game.
I like the stealth in Dishonored.

But the best stealth games I can think of are 3rd person.

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Doe
12/08/20 3:29:00 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I can't imagine stealth not being shitty in a first person game.
Thief: Deadly Shadows

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Rika_Furude
12/08/20 3:31:52 AM
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are there any games with good stealth other than the metal gear solid series?

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Jabodie
12/08/20 3:33:08 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
are there any games with good stealth other than the metal gear solid series?
I personally think the stealth in TLoU2 is excellent.

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Frosted_Midna
12/08/20 3:34:13 AM
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Borderlands 2 I loved Zer0's stealth!

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Smashingpmkns
12/08/20 3:35:20 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
are there any games with good stealth other than the metal gear solid series?

Never as good as the MGS games but Deus Ex and Hitman are good examples. Splinter Cell at times too.
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DeadBankerDream
12/08/20 3:37:55 AM
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Everyone knows the best stealth game is Sly Cooper 2: Band of Thieves
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N3xtG3nGam3r
12/08/20 3:38:07 AM
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Jabodie posted...
I personally think the stealth in TLoU2 is excellent.

Lol.

Anyways, Splinter Cell series has the best Stealth Ive seen in video games. MGSV comes close, but Splinter Cell is still superior.

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JoeRodonExprien
12/08/20 3:39:00 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
are there any games with good stealth other than the metal gear solid series?


This is one of the funniest questions ever.
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pegusus123456
12/08/20 3:42:07 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Never as good as the MGS games but Deus Ex and Hitman are good examples. Splinter Cell at times too.
I assume you're not talking about the first Deus Ex game

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UnfairRepresent
12/08/20 3:42:47 AM
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JoeRodonExprien posted...
This is one of the funniest questions ever.
psst, his entire thing Is to intentionally argue unpopular/idiotic things angrily

DeadBankerDream posted...
I can't imagine stealth not being shitty in a first person game.
Deus ex
Thief
Dishonored

Even Metro LL and Exodus were ok

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Smashingpmkns
12/08/20 3:45:45 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I assume you're not talking about the first Deus Ex game

Was thinking Human Revolution. Not the older games. Never played Mankind Divided.
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pegusus123456
12/08/20 3:48:00 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Was thinking Human Revolution. Not the older games. Never played Mankind Divided.
Okay. I loved Deus Ex and did do a stealth run, but I was amazed at someone calling it good lol. You can literally walk into people without them detecting you.

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viewmaster_pi
12/08/20 3:48:16 AM
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i miss tenchu. From have proved they're fit to make great games in our current generation and onward, it's time to bring it back

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Jabodie
12/08/20 3:48:47 AM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
Lol.

Anyways, Splinter Cell series has the best Stealth Ive seen in video games. MGSV comes close, but Splinter Cell is still superior.
What can I say? It's good.

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UnfairRepresent
12/08/20 3:57:11 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Okay. I loved Deus Ex and did do a stealth run, but I was amazed at someone calling it good lol. You can literally walk into people without them detecting you.
Good doesn't mean realistic by default

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pegusus123456
12/08/20 3:59:23 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Good doesn't mean realistic by default
No. But I think it'd be hard to argue that Deus Ex's janky-ass gameplay is so fantastic that it's something people should be holding up as a gold standard.

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Solo_Wing
12/08/20 4:06:56 AM
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There's a good indie stealth game called Mark of the ninja

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teepan95
12/08/20 4:08:50 AM
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Solo_Wing posted...
There's a good indie stealth game called Mark of the ninja

This is a great game, can confirm
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Smashingpmkns
12/08/20 4:10:27 AM
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Solo_Wing posted...
There's a good indie stealth game called Mark of the ninja

Have it on Switch. It is a lot of fun.
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Lord_Shadow
12/08/20 4:11:46 AM
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Stealth is for cowards who are afraid to rock out cock out

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indica
12/08/20 4:19:29 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Stealth is for cowards who are afraid to rock out cock out


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Rika_Furude
12/08/20 4:21:46 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Stealth is for cowards who are afraid to rock out cock out
stealth is for the ultimate badass who aint got time for jobbers and only wants one thing - the objective

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indica
12/08/20 4:23:46 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
stealth is for the ultimate badass who aint got time for jobbers and only wants one thing - the objective
Ain't got time? In most games stealth runs are way longer than just running balls out

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Lord_Shadow
12/08/20 4:25:58 AM
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indica posted...
Ain't got time? In most games stealth runs are way longer than just running balls out
Ya why slowly sneak when I could shoot all the fools between me and the objective

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Smashingpmkns
12/08/20 4:30:40 AM
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Stealth is the thinking gamer's fet-uhhhh playstyle.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/20 4:57:16 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Ya why slowly sneak when I could shoot all the fools between me and the objective
why slog through jobber after jobber when you can make a beeline for the objective

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pinky0926
12/08/20 6:15:03 AM
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Shout out to Hitman for making a stealth game that's actually fun to play and not just walking up behind someone and stabbing them 9 times out of 10

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Ving_Rhames
12/08/20 6:17:14 AM
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I remember stealth in the Syphonfilter games being hilarious. The fucking Taser that immolated people counted as a silenced weapon. It made no sense.

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kirbyakaZ
12/08/20 6:21:23 AM
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I want to add Styx: Master of Shadows to the list of good stealth games.

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Ilishe
12/08/20 6:24:27 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
are there any games with good stealth other than the metal gear solid series?

Tenchu series. Sekiro.

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Corrupt_Power
12/08/20 6:24:30 AM
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The shoutouts for Thief in this topic make my heart warm. Still probably my favorite game series of all time.
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St0rmFury
12/08/20 8:10:59 AM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
I want to add Styx: Master of Shadows to the list of good stealth games.

Alright, you kinda convinced me to get the All Stars 13 bundle from Fanatical now.
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kirbyakaZ
12/08/20 7:53:58 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
Alright, you kinda convinced me to get the All Stars 13 bundle from Fanatical now.

I didn't even know that was a thing, I'll have to look it up.
Styx is just great. I picked it up randomly one day and loved it. The stealth, humor, setting, and brutality are all wonderfully done.

The challenge is also nice in how variable it is. Not only did they offer different difficulty settings but also optional challenges and collectables. So it's up to you if you want to be an unseen ghost or a rat skulking around always running from chase to chase. And yes, if you get seen then you need to run! If there are ever 2 guards on you at once you are dead. Which is great for a stealth game.

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St0rmFury
12/08/20 7:57:19 PM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
St0rmFury posted...
Alright, you kinda convinced me to get the All Stars 13 bundle from Fanatical now.

I didn't even know that was a thing, I'll have to look it up.
Styx is just great. I picked it up randomly one day and loved it. The stealth, humor, setting, and brutality are all wonderfully done.

The challenge is also nice in how variable it is. Not only did they offer different difficulty settings but also optional challenges and collectables. So it's up to you if you want to be an unseen ghost or a rat skulking around always running from chase to chase. And yes, if you get seen then you need to run! If there are ever 2 guards on you at once you are dead. Which is great for a stealth game.

How's the sequel?
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Antifar
12/08/20 8:00:25 PM
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All those seeking a quality stealth title should play Desperados III, Antifar's official Game Of The Year 2020
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kirbyakaZ
12/08/20 8:00:36 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
How's the sequel?

Haven't played it. I only found out about the sequel a few months ago and I don't have much time and I do have too many games lol

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St0rmFury
12/08/20 8:08:33 PM
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Oof, I know that feeling too well.
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Darmik
12/08/20 8:13:28 PM
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I hope they lean more towards braindead than keenly aware. Nothing more frustrating than a stealth game that doesn't make it clear why you're being detected.

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Antifar
12/08/20 8:16:38 PM
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Also recommend Mark Brown's School of Stealth videos
https://youtu.be/Ay-5g36oFfc
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Tyranthraxus
12/08/20 8:18:53 PM
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One of the things I hate the most about how assassin's creed has developed is that there's basically no focus on stealth anymore. It's in there but only to the same degree as something like uncharted.

Assassin's Creed 1 had amazing strategy in figuring out how to approach a target so that you could use the hidden blade without being detected. 2 had a similar deal but there were still many forced alerts. After that it just kind of fell apart and the best strategy for the whole game was, for the most part, to just run in and kill everyone.

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Darmik
12/08/20 8:29:23 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
One of the things I hate the most about how assassin's creed has developed is that there's basically no focus on stealth anymore. It's in there but only to the same degree as something like uncharted.

Assassin's Creed 1 had amazing strategy in figuring out how to approach a target so that you could use the hidden blade without being detected. 2 had a similar deal but there were still many forced alerts. After that it just kind of fell apart and the best strategy for the whole game was, for the most part, to just run in and kill everyone.

I think AC is one of those franchises that has too broad of an appeal to make stuff like stealth important. Which a lot of AAA games have to struggle with. Stealth can never be a necessity anymore. Only an option. But with it being an option means they can't really design a focused stealth game. So it tends to be half baked and basic. Lost count of how many games have you be invisible if you hide in tall grass.

It was okay in Syndicate.

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