Current Events > I'm confused, how is it womens fault that men have lower education on average?

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Like, certain subgroups of men say women have it much better than men because of stuff that they also have equal access to? I don't get it.

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Are people claiming that's women's fault? I'm not up to date on the outrage of the week in America.

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Do people blame women? Haven't seen that. I think the issue is that in the pursuit of "the great balancing", shit like this is seen as positive.

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This is news to me, who the hell's is claiming this BS? My lack of education is my own damn fault.

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Yeah, it was making sammiches that kept me from my PhD.

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I think it's more like there is alot of social encouragement and empowerment for women to pursue higher education that guys just don't get. There's not much social enthusiasm to help and encourage boys to succeed academically. They're just expected to go to work.

Its also been suggested that schooling is done increasingly by women, for girls. That the current state of education is more geared toward girls' typical behavior, etc. Boys and young men aren't being engaged enough in the learning process.

Reminds me of this one time some middle-aged redneck was telling me our country made a mistake by educating black people.

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Uh, their clothes distract me from the lesson plan.

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are we talking about k-12, or tertiary?

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Its not. Just like its not mens fault they make more money on average than women do, or that men areon averagestronger than women are.

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Esrac posted...

I think it's more like there is alot of social encouragement and empowerment for women to pursue higher education that guys just don't get. There's not much social enthusiasm to help and encourage boys to succeed academically. They're just expected to go to work.

Its also been suggested that schooling is done increasingly by women, for girls. That the current state of education is more geared toward girls' typical behavior, etc. Boys and young men aren't being engaged enough in the learning process.

I was going to say the same thing just with a lot more grammar errors .

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I know plenty of people whos boyfriend and husband will work while supporting their girlfriend or spouse going to college. It's the new "woman staying home taking care of the kid" type scenario.

Well you see they will not have sex with me. That is why.

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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...

Just like its not mens fault they make more money on average than women do, or that men areon averagestronger than women are.

The fact that you think these two things are even remotely similar is hilarious.

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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...

Just like its not mens fault they make more money on average than women do

How is this not men's fault?

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Ive definitely observed this sentiment

Esrac posted...

I think it's more like there is alot of social encouragement and empowerment for women to pursue higher education that guys just don't get. There's not much social enthusiasm to help and encourage boys to succeed academically. They're just expected to go to work.

Its also been suggested that schooling is done increasingly by women, for girls. That the current state of education is more geared toward girls' typical behavior, etc. Boys and young men aren't being engaged enough in the learning process.

This is just stupidly inaccurate but whats new. Men dominate many fields like STEM and even in the humanities the professoriate is often primarily male

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Solar_Crimson posted...

How is this not men's fault?

Well, it's not my fault.

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What would responses look like if two words were changed in the title?

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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

What would responses look like if two words were changed in the title?

let's find out

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YoJoe posted... Women have higher college graduate rates because men are scum bags too busy sexually assaulting women and dropping out

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I'm really not sure what's going on in this topic. Not sure anyone else is either.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

How is this not men's fault?

How is it..?

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I mean, women are much less pressed to get out there and work, and FAR more likely to be supported by a significant other. Is this controversial?

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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

I mean, women are much less pressed to get out there and work, and FAR more likely to be supported by a significant other. Is this controversial?

For some people. The people blaming it on men also dont like to pay attention to statistics, which flat out say men work more, which is why they tend to make more. Take into account mens competitive nature, and typically they end up in the top spots, because that is what they strive for. Obviously some women do as well, and those who do, end up at the top spots too...however its predominantly men, because again, men seem to be more competitive, and sink more time into work.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

The fact that you think these two things are even remotely similar is hilarious.

Theyre not similar, thats why I mentioned them. Two things that couldnt be further apart, but similarly, are not mens fault.

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maybe it's because boys get bullied by other boys when they get good grades but ce tells me toxic masculinity doesn't exist

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Phynaster posted...

This is just stupidly inaccurate but whats new. Men dominate many fields like STEM and even in the humanities the professoriate is often primarily male

Cherry picking male dominated fields ignores the fact that college enrollment numbers overwhelmingly favor females:

"In 1979, women officially overtook men as the dominant sex on college campuses. In 2019-20, women made up 55% of the undergraduate population in the U.S. and 60% of the graduate school pool."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/236360/undergraduate-enrollment-in-us-by-gender/

Getting into the reasons why is a whole other can of worms, but clearly women are being encouraged to do well in school more than men are.

TC, you've got to provide some fucking evidence of this so we don't know the hell you're talking about

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Esrac posted...

I think it's more like there is alot of social encouragement and empowerment for women to pursue higher education that guys just don't get. There's not much social enthusiasm to help and encourage boys to succeed academically. They're just expected to go to work.

Its also been suggested that schooling is done increasingly by women, for girls. That the current state of education is more geared toward girls' typical behavior, etc. Boys and young men aren't being engaged enough in the learning process.

Basically this, but there's more to it and traditionally men have dominated academia, but it has very clearly been shifting for a couple decades and it looks like it will continue to do so.

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garan posted...

Cherry picking male dominated fields ignores the fact that college enrollment numbers overwhelmingly favor females:

"In 1979, women officially overtook men as the dominant sex on college campuses. In 2019-20, women made up 55% of the undergraduate population in the U.S. and 60% of the graduate school pool."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/236360/undergraduate-enrollment-in-us-by-gender/

Getting into the reasons why is a whole other can of worms, but clearly women are being encouraged to do well in school more than men are.

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Again, you missed the important point. It should be pretty clear that there's an issue that despite a larger proportion of woman entering the fields, the leaders of the fields are disproportionately men. Even in psychology has a nearly even split of professors, despite the bachelor's enrollment being overwhelmingly female.

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