Current Events > Persona 5 Royal. Oh my god. Oh. My. God. O_o

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saspa
12/03/20 3:19:59 PM
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Igor... that wasn't Igor
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The23rdMagus
12/03/20 3:20:46 PM
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My, my.

Don't forget that you, the player, had to agree to his initial contract stating that the characters are a work of fiction...

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NeonOctopus
12/03/20 3:23:14 PM
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You fucked Kawakami, right?

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spikethedevil
12/03/20 3:29:22 PM
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He doesnt even give you the usual welcome message at the start which is a huge giveaway.

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spikethedevil
12/03/20 3:30:28 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
My, my.

Don't forget that you, the player, had to agree to his initial contract stating that the characters are a work of fiction...


Dont think that was anything to do with the velvet room iirc.

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saspa
12/03/20 4:05:48 PM
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Still in December so avoiding spoilers.

See, I thought the twist was that lameass Akechi being the villain, which I was not remotely surprised by and just wanted to beat his dumb annoying ass

But for this to be the other twist... just oh my god.

See, at the beginning of the game I was like "Oh Atlus, I can't believe they changed Igor's voice actor dammit" but then I accepted it and said "well, it has been 8 years, maybe they couldn't get the voice actor again oh well"

That was so damn sneaky of Atlus! To use the meta-realization against us, how jrpgs and dubs in general change their voice actor, even in re-release of games. That was just... beyond sneaky.
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luigi13579
12/03/20 4:08:08 PM
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Wait until you play the new arc. :)
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spikethedevil
12/03/20 4:11:34 PM
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My spoiler is from the start of the game.

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Eliza3
12/03/20 4:13:24 PM
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Im never gonna play royal. Can somehow spoil it for me?

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saspa
12/03/20 4:14:45 PM
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Still unsure if it's the same voice actor though, going back to p3 and p4 to check if it's the same.
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Collat
12/03/20 4:26:02 PM
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saspa posted...
See, I thought the twist was that lameass Akechi being the villain, which I was not remotely surprised by and just wanted to beat his dumb annoying ass
They didn't even try to make that a surprise.

The real twist was pancakes.
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CM_Ponch
12/03/20 4:29:14 PM
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It's because the Japanese VA actually died, Iirc they used pre-existing clips to stitch together his(Real Igor) Japanese dialogue for 5.

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saspa
12/03/20 4:34:06 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
My spoiler is from the start of the game.

I just assumed it was the many things they changed, like how they removed shuffle time after battles end and changed how you get more personas. So I just chalked it up to that.

The funny thing is when I was starting the game I actually made a topic complaining about the change and stuff, that one in particular. So glad no one spoiled it for me then.
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gunplagirl
12/03/20 4:39:40 PM
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Collat posted...
They didn't even try to make that a surprise.

The real twist was pancakes.
Personally I think the real twist was that Sojiro is actually the best bro in the franchise.


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Phantom_Nook
12/03/20 4:45:34 PM
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I didn't play the other games, so any hints that it wasn't the real Igor were lost on me. Good twist on its own, tho.
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saspa
12/03/20 4:46:26 PM
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Collat posted...

They didn't even try to make that a surprise.

The real twist was pancakes.

Well I guess I was wondering if it was gonna be a double fake-out or something. Like if he was really a villain or the game made us think he's a villain, being a hero, being a villain, being a hero. Especially since I was thinking "wait, didn't they already pull this crap in Persona 4 with Adachi? And it's someone in the police again, and they have such a similar name?

But regardless, he's such a tool. From his very introduction with Sae, I felt an immediate dislike towards him.

As for the pancake twist, I do wanna rewatch that scene to catch that, but again I honestly tend to chalk up stuff like this to "just one of those mistakes in jrpgs" like how old games had spelling errors, misplaced dialogue, etc. To think they'd use this trick twice, just because of preconceived assumptions on jrpg localization and dubbing... utterly devious on Atlus' part
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spikethedevil
12/03/20 5:00:31 PM
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Start of game spoilers as far as TC is concerned.

Yeah its a new voice. Also welcome to the Velvet Room is not the normal quote which gives it away.

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saspa
12/04/20 1:17:58 PM
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Oh. It would have been cool if it was the same voice but oh well. Not the first time a voice was replaced and stayed surprisingly true to the original, eg troy baker joker in arkham origins.
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spikethedevil
12/04/20 2:28:01 PM
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Except the new voice is nothing like the original.

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saspa
12/04/20 2:37:48 PM
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Yeah that's unfortunate.
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saspa
12/04/20 2:49:42 PM
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Wait that palace... it just hit me let me guess it's Maruki. Maruki is the villain.
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spikethedevil
12/04/20 3:17:23 PM
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Yes.

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mehmeh1
12/04/20 3:24:14 PM
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saspa posted...
Well I guess I was wondering if it was gonna be a double fake-out or something. Like if he was really a villain or the game made us think he's a villain, being a hero, being a villain, being a hero. Especially since I was thinking "wait, didn't they already pull this crap in Persona 4 with Adachi? And it's someone in the police again, and they have such a similar name?

But regardless, he's such a tool. From his very introduction with Sae, I felt an immediate dislike towards him.

As for the pancake twist, I do wanna rewatch that scene to catch that, but again I honestly tend to chalk up stuff like this to "just one of those mistakes in jrpgs" like how old games had spelling errors, misplaced dialogue, etc. To think they'd use this trick twice, just because of preconceived assumptions on jrpg localization and dubbing... utterly devious on Atlus' part
Tbh for me the real twist was that the PT's knew about Akechi all along and had already made their own plan

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saspa
12/04/20 3:24:20 PM
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Edit: I knew it. That was so super obvious with the nurse's office and him blathering on about his research throughout his social link. I just knew he'd end up being a villain of some sort, he has that "totally annoying doofus" look that with a hand over hair brush move would reveal a total psychotic maniac villain, which another persona game already did.

I swear P5 is basically taking cues from both P4 and P3 in so many things.
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spikethedevil
12/04/20 3:40:59 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
Tbh for me the real twist was that the PT's knew about Akechi all along and had already made their own plan

Pancakes @mehmeh1

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ChrisTaka
12/04/20 3:44:58 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
You fucked Kawakami, right?

Yessir!

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MrMallard
12/04/20 3:57:48 PM
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I recently beat Persona 5 vanilla the other day, congrats on getting this far without getting spoiled. I came stupidly close to spoiling this for myself.

In regards to Shuffle Time and all that, I wasn't thrown off because I had just come off of a playthrough of Shin Megami Tensei 3. I had played half the game, and Persona 5 gave me such strong Nocturne vibes with the monsters that I had to go back and finish it. Kinda wish I didn't, because I got the worst ending lmao.

Persona 5 plays almost identically to Nocturne in how you get your monsters, with some QoL improvements and more rewarding negotiations. I just assumed that 5 was hemming close to SMT3 in creature design and in how the battles work.

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saspa
12/05/20 12:50:29 AM
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Ok I did not see that coming. Red haired girl is a... twin? Then again I also don't care, like at all. The story and pacing has grinded to a halt.

It's funny because I had watched a movie with Zoe Kazan about this exact plot just a few weeks ago, eerie how much of coincidence that was.
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saspa
12/06/20 7:17:22 AM
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Oh and I guess Akechi being alive is... well, it's something. Also not surprised, though I'm wondering if he's only alive in the Royal version. Interesting that they're having him be portrayed as his bloodthirsty self. Well he certainly isn't the Riku to Joker's Sora.
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ChrisTaka
12/06/20 3:58:23 PM
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saspa posted...
Oh and I guess Akechi being alive is... well, it's something. Also not surprised, though I'm wondering if he's only alive in the Royal version. Interesting that they're having him be portrayed as his bloodthirsty self. Well he certainly isn't the Riku to Joker's Sora.


Answer towards the character you mentioned: He stays dead in the original, you basically never see him again after what happened at Shido's palace.

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Irony
12/06/20 3:59:33 PM
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DarthAragorn
12/06/20 4:01:02 PM
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The Royal story additions are so big it makes me not want to bother with Scramble or Strikers or whatever. Apparently that doesn't utilize any content from Royal but is a sequel to the original version of 5.
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ChrisTaka
12/06/20 4:33:44 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
The Royal story additions are so big it makes me not want to bother with Scramble or Strikers or whatever. Apparently that doesn't utilize any content from Royal but is a sequel to the original version of 5.

I think Scramble was being developed at the same time as P5R

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Alucard188
12/06/20 4:35:27 PM
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saspa posted...
Igor... that wasn't Igor

Haha. I love it. The entire game I was like Ok, I know the VA is dead and all, so maybe they're giving him a new voice to pay homage to the fact that he died? Turns out HAHAHA NOPE.

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MrMallard
12/07/20 5:09:02 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Haha. I love it. The entire game I was like Ok, I know the VA is dead and all, so maybe they're giving him a new voice to pay homage to the fact that he died? Turns out HAHAHA NOPE.

The funny thing about this for me was that the only other Persona game I've played is P3P, and even if Igor had voice lines in that version - which I doubt, because if memory serves correct, no-one has voice lines in that game - it's been years since I've played it. So I had no expectations one way or the other.

I was expecting a more high-pitched, psychotic voice, even remembering his personality, but when I heard his deeper one I was like "weird choice but okay, I can get used to this I guess". And then it WASN'T HIM, and the real Igor had a similar voice to what I had in my head - definitely calmer, but a similar sort of thing that I expected.

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spikethedevil
12/07/20 5:21:47 AM
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P3P was as voiced as the PS2 version @MrMallard

Am I the only one that picked up on welcome to the velvet room being different?

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luigi13579
12/07/20 6:03:33 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Am I the only one that picked up on welcome to the velvet room being different?
I noticed the voice of course, but I can't remember if I noticed anything else, like the different welcome. Now that I think about it, I may have noticed something was amiss.
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ChrisTaka
12/07/20 7:46:55 AM
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MrMallard posted...


The funny thing about this for me was that the only other Persona game I've played is P3P, and even if Igor had voice lines in that version - which I doubt, because if memory serves correct, no-one has voice lines in that game - it's been years since I've played it. So I had no expectations one way or the other.

P3P is the latest version of P3 so it had as many voice lines as the PS2 version plus some additional lines as well. Funny enough, technically the P3P version should have more voiced lines do to some slight changes here and there to compensate for the fact that you can play as a girl.

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MrMallard
12/07/20 7:57:14 AM
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Yeah, mb lol. Like I said, it's been years - I was going off of a gut feeling, sorry

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saspa
12/09/20 5:40:50 AM
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When people say different, are they referring to the fact that you're in a prison cell and in chains? I remember at the time I just assumed that this new Persona was trying its utmost to be dark and edgy, and overly stylish in presentation.

That, coupled with the voice, really threw me. I'd love to see what first time players 4 years ago were saying about that
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ChrisTaka
12/09/20 3:36:32 PM
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saspa posted...
When people say different, are they referring to the fact that you're in a prison cell and in chains?

Igor usually says "Welcome to the Velvet room" but in P5 he said "Welcome to my Velvet room".

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saspa
12/11/20 5:36:43 AM
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Huh. So I'm in January and it feels like the twist was put on hold for this rubbish with Kasumi and Maruki. . I want to get to the velvet room so bad to see what happens next and also to synthesize new cards.
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saspa
12/13/20 5:29:57 AM
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You know... "Kasumi"/Sumire with her hair down is actually a marked improvement over her design the entire game. Coupled with the glasses, that's my sweet spot.
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