Current Events > Is getting ghosted after sex rape? Checkmark wonders allowed at dinner parties

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https://twitter.com/lethal_heroine/status/1326715575435988992

Oh girl...you dont have to tweet everything fleeting thought in your head

The nuance in this is impossible to keep in check. Just be responsible for yourself and stop wanting people to go to prison everytime you make a mistake.

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This could be broadened to anything, if you aren't honest about your job/income/marital status/political beliefs/personal history/etc. I guess it isn't consensual...

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

The nuance in this is impossible to keep in check. Just be responsible for yourself and stop wanting people to go to prison everytime you make a mistake.

It's not even that nuanced tbh. Get a grip, lady.

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What a weird topic to discuss at dinner parties
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why are zoomers so obsessed with sex consent?

who is going to dinner parties

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wonders allowed

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Having sex with a woman is basically rape 100% of the time.

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I had buyers remorse, now Im going to sue Amazon

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

This could be broadened to anything, if you aren't honest about your job/income/marital status/political beliefs/personal history/etc. I guess it isn't consensual...

Who lies about their income on dates? Lol hella scummy and lame

Why does she bring this up at dinner parties?

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littlebro07 posted...

wonders allowed

Lol whooooops

Evening_Dragon posted...

It's not even that nuanced tbh. Get a grip, lady.

My bad, I got ahead of myself. I meant the nuance in one party thinking it's more than it is. It can be completely their fault they think that. We've all met people who could be flat out told what it is, and they still think the person is being mysterious.

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can someone with twitter tell her to stfu

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Where does the limit go where lying to someone before sex equals rape?
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littlebro07 posted...

wonders allowed

I certainly do wonder why she's allowed at dinner parties.

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this is getting complicated

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so i was trying to google a case where a woman literally withdrew consent after the fact because she found out the guy wasn't as wealthy as he claimed to be, but i couldn't find that, but i did find this and it's infuriating

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/24/clarence-moses-el-free-denver-rape-case

Wtf kinda fru fru crap is a dinner party

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Now who is this?

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If a man falls in love with a prostitute after having sex, is she a rapist if she never fucks him again?

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I don't realize its a one time thing until I'm halfway through with it, tbh
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That would be thought crime. How is the other party supposed to know that the person you literally met the same day is thinking this is going to be a long term relationship. It she gave it up willingly its not rape.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Where does the limit go where lying to someone before sex equals rape?

To be fair, lying to get sex is a pretty scummy thing to do in general.

I get what that person is saying, though s/he said it in a really snarky, dickish way. Isn't sex under any false pretences rape? If not, where is the line?

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It'd be a crying shame if these types of people could stand alone on their own merit.

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DK9292 posted...

To be fair, lying to get sex is a pretty scummy thing to do in general.

I get what that person is saying, though s/he said it in a really snarky, dickish way. Isn't sex under any false pretences rape? If not, where is the line?

Conditional sex is pretty rapey in itself.

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DK9292 posted...

To be fair, lying to get sex is a pretty scummy thing to do in general.

I get what that person is saying, though s/he said it in a really snarky, dickish way. Isn't sex under any false pretences rape? If not, where is the line?

I just remember a while ago there was a case where Israel convicted a man of rape because his partner thought he was Jewish, but he was actually Palestinian. I don't remember if he actively lied, but even so, it seems conceptually absurd to me that that would constitute rape.
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If you're intentionally doing/saying something to create consent where there you know/believe there would not be consent otherwise, it's rape, yeah.

Fam_Fam posted...

If you're doing intentionally something to create consent where there would not be consent otherwise, it's rape, yeah.

Yeah, this.

SquirtleSkwad posted...

Conditional sex is pretty rapey in itself.

I mean... how?

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This reminds me of a situation I was in. I was friends with a girl (A) who was FWB with another girl (B). B inquired to A if she and I had anything "going on" and A said no because I was asexual.

Since then, I've been examining my own sexuality. I don't think I'm purely asexual, but I have an extremely low libido, so I'm effectively asexual. I mentioned this to A who eventually mentioned it to B. Cue B absolutely losing her shit, accusing A of lying to her about MY sexuality, and generally implying the sort of thing this tweet is getting at.

You might be wondering, "What did this cow care if you, an unrelated third party, weren't asexual?" Hell if I know. That chick is screwier than the shelves at a Home Depot. Complete drama queen who whines and pouts like she's 14 even though she's in her 20s.

Poop2 posted...

why are zoomers so obsessed with sex consent?

She's 47. I'm not so sure she's a zoomer
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_Rinku_ posted...

This reminds me of a situation I was in. I was friends with a girl (A) who was FWB with another girl (B). B inquired to A if she and I had anything "going on" and A said no because I was asexual.

Since then, I've been examining my own sexuality. I don't think I'm purely asexual, but I have an extremely low libido, so I'm effectively asexual. I mentioned this to A who eventually mentioned it to B. Cue B absolutely losing her shit, accusing A of lying to her about MY sexuality, and generally implying the sort of thing this tweet is getting at.

You might be wondering, "What did this cow care if you, an unrelated third party, weren't asexual?" Hell if I know. That chick is screwier than the shelves at a Home Depot. Complete drama queen who whines and pouts like she's 14 even though she's in her 20s.

So you dont even jerk off or look at porn or anything???? Do you have wet dreams then??

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Fam_Fam posted...

If you're intentionally doing/saying something to create consent where there you know/believe there would not be consent otherwise, it's rape, yeah.

I'm not condoning or defending either situation, but what does that make people who only sleep with someone because they think they have something to gain? Like money or status?

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"People should be imprisoned for dishonest romantic intentions, even if it's just in my own head"

Yeah, okay lady

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_Rinku_ posted...

This reminds me of a situation I was in. I was friends with a girl (A) who was FWB with another girl (B). B inquired to A if she and I had anything "going on" and A said no because I was asexual.

Since then, I've been examining my own sexuality. I don't think I'm purely asexual, but I have an extremely low libido, so I'm effectively asexual. I mentioned this to A who eventually mentioned it to B. Cue B absolutely losing her shit, accusing A of lying to her about MY sexuality, and generally implying the sort of thing this tweet is getting at.

You might be wondering, "What did this cow care if you, an unrelated third party, weren't asexual?" Hell if I know. That chick is screwier than the shelves at a Home Depot. Complete drama queen who whines and pouts like she's 14 even though she's in her 20s.

Probably felt you weren't an "unrelated third party", and was possibly worried A was cheating on her with you.

I know you'll argue that if they're FWB then it shouldn't matter if you're together, but that kind of thing can still hurt.

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DK9292 posted...

Yeah, this.

I mean... how?

Fucking someone for their money comes to mind, so long as we're extending the word "rape" to trickery.

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

I'm not condoning or defending either situation, but what does that make people who only sleep with someone because they think they have something to gain? Like money or status?

Manipulative. But that doesn't even remotely mean it's okay to rape them.

SquirtleSkwad posted...

Fucking someone for their money comes to mind, so long as we're extending the word "rape" to trickery.

Yeah, I thought you were talking about the people that are like "I won't have sex with someone unless they make an X figure income and look like Brad Pitt". Which is shallow, sure, but entirely their prerogative.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

So you dont even jerk off or look at porn or anything????

Nope. I like looking at attractive people, but there's zero drive to do anything about it. Had some recent trauma that scared me off even considering self-pleasuring, so I'm back to basically asexual. I have an almost non-existent libido, so it doesn't really bother me. More emotionally hurt by the trauma and the lack of compassion from the person who caused it than anything.

What a stupid woman

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Didn't we just have this outrageous discussion over the Aziz Ansari thing a year ago and chalked it up to extreme overanalysis of intent?

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DK9292 posted...

Probably felt you weren't an "unrelated third party", and was possibly worried A was cheating on her with you.

I know you'll argue that if they're FWB then it shouldn't matter if you're together, but that kind of thing can still hurt.

Considering that B was in an open relationship with her wife and finding FWBs all over the place, it'd be pretty hypocritical of her to throw a fit over that.

There's also the fact that A is not my type at all lol

Tweets like that is the result of someone who have nothing to do at home, so they think about everything. Go do some laundry.

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_Rinku_ posted...

Considering that B was in an open relationship with her wife and finding FWBs all over the place, it'd be pretty hypocritical of her to throw a fit over that.

Plenty of people are like that.

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You could, oh I don't, wait until marriage to have sex. Or atleast until you're actually in a relationship.

Not saying you should, but you definitely could

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EmbraceOfDeath posted...

I certainly do wonder why she's allowed at dinner parties.

She hosts them herself in her parent's basement. Not a great turnout.

Rape by deception is a thing, but extending it too far makes me feel that more harm than good will be done for victims of assault. It's already hard enough for them to get taken seriously.

It's still very much a dick thing to do though and terrible manipulation.

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This is like some CE level shit posting

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DK9292 posted...

Plenty of people are like that.

And I find that pretty hypocritical if you're going to concern yourself with the idea of a fuck buddy "cheating" on you when there's no established monogamy. By all means, be concerned about introduction of new partners because of the increased risk, but that clearly wasn't this chick's problem.

There has to be duplicity on a level above a small lie to turn it into rape. While its an absolutely shitty to do, you couldnt ever prove that person A didnt have the intent to become a couple with person B and just changed their mind. You can however prove that person A purposely crossdressed with the intent of making person B believe they are of the opposite sex. You can prove that person A hacked person Bs emails and pretended to be person C who was chatting with person B on a dating site.