Current Events > My darling harry enten just proved to me progressives lost

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Balrog0
11/08/20 1:26:25 AM
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Doom_Art
11/08/20 1:28:44 AM
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What'd he say

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Balrog0
11/08/20 1:30:05 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What'd he say

He just showed a few districts where progressive candidates lost but Biden won like in Nebraska where kara eastman, a m4a and gnd supporter, got crushed and Biden carried her district

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Balrog0
11/08/20 1:31:41 AM
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Also walked through a few rural counties in pa and ga where Biden didn't win but he kept the margins down even where obviously warnock and ossoff didn't

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1337toothbrush
11/08/20 2:51:42 AM
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... democrats are going to get fucking destroyed in 2024 if they keep attacking progressives.

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CADE FOSTER
11/08/20 2:53:13 AM
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old hat dems dont fucking learn pelosi and schumer gotta go
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Balrog0
11/08/20 2:53:35 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
... democrats are going to get fucking destroyed in 2024 if they keep attacking progressives.

Progressives are literally irrelevant everywhere that matters politically

I wish it wasn't true but it definitely is

I'm not even saying progressives don't deserve the political representation they have because they do. The fact that progressives aren't popular in most of America brings me no joy

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Balrog0
11/08/20 2:55:21 AM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
old hat dems dont fucking learn pelosi and schumer gotta go

I agree

They're much too liberal for the American electorate

Replace them with Tim ryan and Joe Manchin

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Endgame
11/08/20 3:05:31 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
... democrats are going to get fucking destroyed in 2024 if they keep attacking progressives.

Damn straight. Even if I didn't vote for Biden, I still voted Democrat downballot. Keep this shit up and I won't even vote at all.

If they screw over AOC like they did Bernie, it really would be in our best interests to let the Republicans destroy the Democrats so a true leftist party can rise from the ashes.

Balrog0 posted...
I agree

They're much too liberal for the American electorate

Yeah, no. Pelosi and Schumer are too right leaning for us. As is Biden.
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Balrog0
11/08/20 3:06:59 AM
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Endgame posted...
Yeah, no. Pelosi and Schumer are too right leaning for us. As is Biden.

You're crazy man

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ssjevot
11/08/20 3:20:03 AM
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The bubbles (and I used to live in one in Seattle myself) make it hard to convince these people what the party needs to do to win Balrog. The progressive ideas are popular in the groups they frequent so they think if anything they need to be more progressive. You can show them data and results all day and it won't matter. Just have to hope the Democrats can start trying to play to win before it's too late, because I honestly doubt they will ever regain the Senate if nothing major happens.

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Beemo_Season11
11/08/20 3:45:18 AM
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You guys got Biden, yall need to stop with the purity testing.
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1337toothbrush
11/08/20 4:16:59 AM
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Balrog0
11/08/20 9:36:03 AM
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Beemo_Season11 posted...
You guys got Biden, yall need to stop with the purity testing.

I didn't want Biden in the first place

1337toothbrush posted...
https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/1324732079733616641

Also, a twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570

I'm not gonna bother with that second thread because the first one is utterly useless and misleading. The Dems wanted to expand the map, including with progressive candidates in swing districts. The candidates Katie porters pac supported got annihilated. It's just easy to ignore because those candidates never held office to begin with

The reason some of these swing district dems survived is just because they live close enough to high growth metro areas where dems have an inherent demographic advantage.

It has nothing to do with the gnd or m44a

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1337toothbrush
11/08/20 5:02:04 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
utterly useless and misleading
Sums up this topic quite nicely and you didn't even link to a source, you just paraphrased some dicey bullshit. You're saying democrats need to run further to the right? Huh, so I guess the large margins that Obama won running as a progressive in 2008 can simply be ignored? Yeah, we should instead take the Biden route (or go even further right??) and barely beat out republicans.

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EngineerGamer
11/08/20 5:08:19 PM
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agreed TC, i've loved harry for years now and i know he's giving it to me straight. americans are too aggressive and obstinate for progressive politics to gain traction, and democratic primary voters made an immensely wise decision in nominating biden. literally anyone else would have lost judging by how turnout and splitting went.
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1337toothbrush
11/08/20 5:09:29 PM
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EngineerGamer posted...
agreed TC, i've loved harry for years now and i know he's giving it to me straight. americans are too aggressive and obstinate for progressive politics to gain traction, and democratic primary voters made an immensely wise decision in nominating biden. literally anyone else would have lost judging by how turnout and splitting went.
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570

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Broseph_Stalin
11/08/20 5:10:19 PM
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@Endgame really spent every day of the past year promising a Trump win and still thinks anyone cares about his opinion lol
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EngineerGamer
11/08/20 5:11:53 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570
americans want those things and they also want republican representation. they are mutually exclusive so voters end up choosing the latter, consistently.
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