Board 8 > Joe Biden elected the 46th president of the United States

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Denying reality like little children is pretty fucking obnoxious imo

I laughed at some of the lib videos in 2016, despite also being horrified Trump pulled the con off it was hard not to, but these people are just objectively more sore losers.

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I just wanted to put things on the record here so when Ulti tries to say he was the first person to call it I can tell him to fuck off!

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https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1326420688312414209?s=21

this stuff isnt even funny, its just kind of scary
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I don't think anything has topped that screaming lady at the 2016 inauguration, but admittedly... it was at the inauguration so there's still time.

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ExTha this is Ulti-level of trying to have it both ways.

You should have seen him the day after, lol, I think he posted a half dozen DIFFERENT fraud charges, and every single one was proved wrong.

You say where theres smoke theres fire, but the smoke and fire in this instance is literally innumerable fake accusations lmao.

And like the one big confirmed vote error reported by Breitbart that Trump retweeted because of the flashy headline was an error in Trumps favor. lmao

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ExTha do you remember the number of people in 2016 screaming about fraud or hacking or anything else you laughed at and rolled your eyes at? Was there truth to that because a large number of people believed it?

This is the inverse of that. Everyone else is looking at you guys the way you looked at hardcore Hillary stans in 2016. The only difference is Trump has such an ego he can't admit to himself that he lost like Hillary did.

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The no girl from 2016 may never be topped tbh

Also jesus fucking christ that video. I am legit terrified of what is to come when Biden's inauguration day arrives.

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Who is Ian Miles Cheong and why has right wing media been retweeting him like crazy the past couple of days? Was he ever famous for any reason I should know about?

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1326420688312414209?s=21

this stuff isnt even funny, its just kind of scary

Bruh this bitch don't even live here lol

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He's a gamergate product I believe.

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Ah, so one of Wang's soyboys.

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I think that he actually switched sides post GG but my memory is foggy on it.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

I think that he actually switched sides post GG but my memory is foggy on it.

Theres way old posts from some forum of Ian being a straight up nazi, but I think at some point he tried grifting for a bit as a SJW type guy (may be confusing him with another one of these guys), then swung hard back to the right.

and now hes basically 100% trump posts all the time which is pretty weird and sad for a guy who lives in Malaysia. Hes like a professional Vlado.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

professional Vlado.

Hard to think of a sadder career than this...!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Hard to think of a sadder career than this...!

Salt mining
Subsistence farming
Garbage disposal
Ditch digging
Housekeeping

All of those seem much worse/harder. So nope, not hard at all to think of worse careers!

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Dudes I haven't seen Vlado in a while

His nationalism topic series was a hoot

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red sox 777 posted...

Salt mining
Subsistence farming
Garbage disposal
Ditch digging
Housekeeping

All of those seem much worse/harder. So nope, not hard at all to think of worse careers!

Those are all much more respectable careers. I said "sadder," not "harder"...!

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Well, I do have a request for President Trump. Let's rename some cabinet positions to better comport with reality:

Secretary of Defense -> Secretary of War (the original title)
Press Secretary -> Minister of Propaganda

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ExThaNemesis posted...

The fact that so many people believe it was fraud still.

Name one credible person

Is the overall number higher or lower than the number of people who think vaccines cause autism
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Jakyl25 posted...

Name one credible person

Is the overall number higher or lower

Much, much, higher. Also, let me remind you:

"What I show you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion." -Sephiroth

"What difference does it make?" -Hillary Clinton

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Oh Trump was finally supposed to actually present evidence of ballot tampering on Hannity tonight

Anyone know how that went?
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I don't know if I saw the whole thing, but Hannity presented a list of witnesses who have testified under oath that they witnessed fraud taking place.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

Listen I would like to say I know both sides a lot better than you do

ExThaNemesis posted...

Even if he proved voter fraud y'all would be calling it a coup anyway.

LOL
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TBQH, the way the media and Twitter have handled this is really awful. Even if there is no evidence of any fraud, the way they are censoring people claiming there is fraud looks awful. At some point, one needs to treat censorship as a confession. So when Twitter includes a message below a Trump tweet saying "there is no evidence of this" one can read that to actually say "we confess this is completely accurate." Same with the media - it's not your job to decide if evidence is credible. Report the evidence, and the public will decide that. If you insist on not reporting what the evidence and making the conclusory statement that it is not credible, the next step is for the public to infer that the evidence is credible and even compelling.

And if it's actually not, well, that's your fault for reporting in a way that that is the most reasonable inference the public can draw.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh Trump was finally supposed to actually present evidence of ballot tampering on Hannity tonight

Anyone know how that went?

I searched Hannity on Twitter to see what came up and this was the first tweet:

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1326340143683399681?s=21

OH NO SO FAR LEFT AND SCARY

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That's uh... quite the low bar for a "far-left agenda"...!

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https://youtu.be/ha7iWECm_8E

Here's a great video of a lawyer going through every court case so far, in case, ahem, anyone wants to educate themselves on how frivolous almost all of these have been.

or nonspecifed person can continue to go with their gut feeling that Trump still has lots of evidence of fraud because people are saying it

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StartTheMachine posted...

The no girl from 2016 may never be topped tbh

Completely justified reaction imo


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our country may or may not exist in a few years lol!!!!!

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Seems like it's literally just the whole Disney buying Captain Marvel tickets conspiracy theories being applied to an entire national election.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Theres way old posts from some forum of Ian being a straight up nazi, but I think at some point he tried grifting for a bit as a SJW type guy (may be confusing him with another one of these guys), then swung hard back to the right.

and now hes basically 100% trump posts all the time which is pretty weird and sad for a guy who lives in Malaysia. Hes like a professional Vlado.

missing a few things but close enough. underplays the SJW phase, missing what he was known for before, but close enough.

for starters he gained fame due to reddit where he'd shill his content then manipulated it via mod abuse to gain hits and spread his blog/site.
this got him banned. so he said he was a social media consultant.

i don't remember if the logs where he literally called hitler his idol were dated but he did say in the apology tour after that this was when he was in his early teens. i don't know how old he is but considering how old he looks, they should easily predate reddit stuff which was 2012, where he was already ingrained with SJW stuff and continued to be through GG and stopped around 2016 so i don't think it was all grift, though it def played a role. like if you remember the 2012 KSI vid where he asks the model if he can motorboat her? yeah, he started the drama for that. also tried to get huniepop banned off steam and that aspect probably hasn't changed at all, just a tweak of ideology from "turbofeminist" to "degeneracy." from 2016 onwards he's steadily gone more and more into trump and conservativism to the point that he honestly reads like a parody very often.

at best, dude's a guy very, very susceptible to falling into extremes. at worst, he's a total rat who'll jump ship. decide which you want of those two. he'll be great at expressing outrage when it's justified but he also gets outraged over everything. in this environment, he thrives.

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Even otherwise, the whole idea that lots of people are contesting the election and therefore there must be something to it strikes me as odd when (not necessarily aimed at ExTha or whoever it was) many of those people take completely the opposite stance towards sexual harassment.

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Georgia is doing a full hand recount.

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red sox 777 posted...

TBQH, the way the media and Twitter have handled this is really awful. Even if there is no evidence of any fraud, the way they are censoring people claiming there is fraud looks awful. At some point, one needs to treat censorship as a confession. So when Twitter includes a message below a Trump tweet saying "there is no evidence of this" one can read that to actually say "we confess this is completely accurate." Same with the media - it's not your job to decide if evidence is credible. Report the evidence, and the public will decide that. If you insist on not reporting what the evidence and making the conclusory statement that it is not credible, the next step is for the public to infer that the evidence is credible and even compelling.

And if it's actually not, well, that's your fault for reporting in a way that that is the most reasonable inference the public can draw.

Determining the credibility of statements of public figures should literally be one of the media's core jobs, but please go ahead carrying water for these fascist attacks on the "enemy of the people."

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Watch "Everything is a Rich Mans Trick". Politics is fake. Democracy is a scam.

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All the Twitter "censorship" is literally just them putting a fact check on tweets right? So it's not actually censorship at all, merely fact checking

yeah this is something we should have always had in place, though the optics of putting it in place now might admittedly look bad, especially if you don't follow politics

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Yesmar_ posted...

Determining the credibility of statements of public figures should literally be one of the media's core jobs, but please go ahead carrying water for these fascist attacks on the "enemy of the people."

No. Reporting the statements is their job. Investigating the statements is their job. Making conclusory statements about their credibility is not. Provide the evidence, and let viewers draw their own conclusions.

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SwedishWargoat posted...

Watch "Everything is a Rich Mans Trick". Politics is fake. Democracy is a scam.

Whose alt

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StartTheMachine posted...

All the Twitter "censorship" is literally just them putting a fact check on tweets right? So it's not actually censorship at all, merely fact checking

yeah this is something we should have always had in place, though the optics of putting it in place now might admittedly look bad, especially if you don't follow politics

Selective fact checking is absolutely censorship.

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red sox 777 posted...

Selective fact checking is absolutely censorship.

You're going to need to prove that the fact checking is "selective," beyond the point of using sources in the realm of reality and not some conspiracy theorist garbage, to get me to accept this take.

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honestly it's not even fact checking, it's usually linking to something related and has nothing to do with the facts or opinion. it's similar to youtube's blurb under all political videos right now.

edit:
but it is selective, yes, whereas youtube is more universal with what it's doing.

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Yes, Youtube has applied it universally while Twitter is doing it based on the content of specific posts. Or possibly the author. I suspect that if I posted the exact same thing as Trump on an account with no followers Twitter wouldn't even notice my post.

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Ah, I misunderstood the use of the word selectice then, thinking you met selective in the sources used to fact check.

A universal system about certain important topics is probably a better system. It's largely irrelevant and conservatives will play the victim either way, and in fact were, long before these new fact checking policies.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

That side is not HALF, or even a third as obnoxious as the other side is so them being upset is hardly as fun.

Your problem is you are a loud Bernie bro, so all the Trumpers have defriended you, and so you're not seeing them being loud and crazy right now.

It happens to me too, just being libertarian is enough to get "muh free speech" crowd to block you. I only have a handful of Trumpers left. But they are pretty crazy.

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red sox 777 posted...

Selective fact checking is absolutely censorship.

You cannot censor by adding, only removing. That's why social media just labels posts with a warning, and they don't shadow ban the post or the author, even though they easily could.

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If the disputes aren't resolved by 12/8, things will get complicated. Let's hope it doesn't get there

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There's nothing wrong with Trump demanding a recount. It's more the rhetoric he's using.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

There's nothing wrong with Trump demanding a recount. It's more the rhetoric he's using.

That's a lot of Trump in a nutshell. He presents stuff that would be amenable to a large chunk of the population (whether you agree or not) but presents it in the worst possible fashion. "Smart" Republicans want him out not because they disagree with him but because he has no tact and can't play "the game".

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So right.

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