Poll of the Day > Mandatory quarantine camps being set up in New Zealand!

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Jen0125 10/31/20 8:16:14 PM #51:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Camps bring to mind images of people milling about a fenced in area with armed guards. Hotels suggest indoor plumbing, doors with locks on them, room cleaning, and food delivered to your room. That sounds like a personal perception issue --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:946553115] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>SKARDAVNELNATE posted... </cite> <quote>Camps bring to mind images of people milling about a fenced in area with armed guards. Hotels suggest indoor plumbing, doors with locks on them, room cleaning, and food delivered to your room.</quote> That sounds like a personal perception issue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 10/31/20 8:33:07 PM #52:	Jen0125 posted... That sounds like a personal perception issue You were the one that was concerned with what to call it. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:946553741] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>That sounds like a personal perception issue</quote>You were the one that was concerned with what to call it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeerOnTap 10/31/20 8:36:39 PM #53:	Gamerz4Justice posted... I just found out about them today. Just goes to show how much Trump has suppressed the news so people dont get to see how to truly stop this virus. easily one of the most insane tinfoil hat threads Ive seen on this board. And thats saying a lot. You guys are bonkers. <cite>BeerOnTap posted [p:946553864] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>Gamerz4Justice posted... </cite> <quote>I just found out about them today. Just goes to show how much Trump has suppressed the news so people dont get to see how to truly stop this virus.</quote> easily one of the most insane tinfoil hat threads Ive seen on this board. And thats saying a lot. You guys are bonkers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 10/31/20 8:45:26 PM #54:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Camps bring to mind images of people milling about a fenced in area with armed guards. Hotels suggest indoor plumbing, doors with locks on them, room cleaning, and food delivered to your room. Well don't worry, NZ has hotels we use. The only ones claiming we are doing a camp is foreign conservatives. They see New Zealand actually doing the right thing and like to make up conspiracies. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nzhellhole-hashtag-trending-twitter-kiwis-sarcastically-show-tough-lockdown https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/covid-19-coronavirus-new-zealand-twitter-users-respond-to-fox-news-comments/BOT3AUIQXG74BANP4OHGMWKQXI/ --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:946554193] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>Camps bring to mind images of people milling about a fenced in area with armed guards. Hotels suggest indoor plumbing, doors with locks on them, room cleaning, and food delivered to your room.</quote> Well don't worry, NZ has hotels we use. The only ones claiming we are doing a camp is foreign conservatives. They see New Zealand actually doing the right thing and like to make up conspiracies. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nzhellhole-hashtag-trending-twitter-kiwis-sarcastically-show-tough-lockdown https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/covid-19-coronavirus-new-zealand-twitter-users-respond-to-fox-news-comments/BOT3AUIQXG74BANP4OHGMWKQXI/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 10/31/20 9:52:56 PM #55:	https://summit.news/2020/04/02/fauci-says-lockdown-will-continue-until-there-are-no-new-cases-of-coronavirus/ People ok with living this way... just realize this is never going away so are you guys ok with living in fear like this forever and exchanging your rights for safety permanently? No new cases? People like fauci are setting goals they know we'll probably never reach. No new cases is a pipe dream. This is the new never ending war. First, there was the war on drugs that set off the police state we see today. Then we had the war on terror that made way for the patriot act and TSA. Now, its the war on viruses and they can tell us indefinitely what we're allowed to do at any given moment. Small businesses have all these restrictions yet big corporations like Walmart are allowed to operate unhindered. They're telling us to not get together with family for Thanksgiving but going to Walmart is ok. Lol this shit is beyond irrational and stupid. We need to tell all these billionaires, politicians, and health bureaucrats to fuck off <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:946556377] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>https://summit.news/2020/04/02/fauci-says-lockdown-will-continue-until-there-are-no-new-cases-of-coronavirus/ People ok with living this way... just realize this is never going away so are you guys ok with living in fear like this forever and exchanging your rights for safety permanently? No new cases? People like fauci are setting goals they know we'll probably never reach. No new cases is a pipe dream. This is the new never ending war. First, there was the war on drugs that set off the police state we see today. Then we had the war on terror that made way for the patriot act and TSA. Now, its the war on viruses and they can tell us indefinitely what we're allowed to do at any given moment. Small businesses have all these restrictions yet big corporations like Walmart are allowed to operate unhindered. They're telling us to not get together with family for Thanksgiving but going to Walmart is ok. Lol this shit is beyond irrational and stupid. We need to tell all these billionaires, politicians, and health bureaucrats to fuck off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/31/20 9:57:03 PM #56:	OhhhJa posted... just realize this is never going away Based on what, exactly? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:946556510] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>just realize this is never going away</quote> Based on what, exactly? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/31/20 9:58:08 PM #57:	adjl posted... Realistically, if there's an ongoing public health crisis that might necessitate something like this, you probably shouldn't be travelling such that you might end up needing to stay in one. Oh, I'm not traveling much. Especially out of the country. Though, I would go back to my hometown to visit. But haven't gone in a couple of years by now... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:946556546] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Realistically, if there's an ongoing public health crisis that might necessitate something like this, you probably shouldn't be travelling such that you might end up needing to stay in one.</quote> Oh, I'm not traveling much. Especially out of the country. Though, I would go back to my hometown to visit. But haven't gone in a couple of years by now...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 10/31/20 10:01:50 PM #58:	adjl posted... Based on what, exactly? If we're counting on a vaccine to make a coronavirus go away, well... you know the saying about wishing in one hand and shitting in the other? Herd immunity is the strongest argument here and many doctors support it. Viruses naturally evolve to become less deadly to their host. That's why the oldest known viruses are virtually harmless. Lethality is not ideal for a virus. By quarantining people and reducing transmission, we are actively hindering this process. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farr's_laws <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:946556669] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Based on what, exactly?</quote>If we're counting on a vaccine to make a coronavirus go away, well... you know the saying about wishing in one hand and shitting in the other? Herd immunity is the strongest argument here and many doctors support it. Viruses naturally evolve to become less deadly to their host. That's why the oldest known viruses are virtually harmless. Lethality is not ideal for a virus. By quarantining people and reducing transmission, we are actively hindering this process. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farr's_laws </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/31/20 10:11:35 PM #59:	OhhhJa posted... If we're counting on a vaccine to make a coronavirus go away, well... you know the saying about wishing in one hand and s*ting in the other? Herd immunity is the strongest argument here If a vaccine won't make it go away (an assumption that's being made based on pretty much nothing except the fact that there hasn't been a successful one before, which kind of ignores pretty much the entire history of scientific progress), neither will herd immunity. Vaccines work by providing herd immunity, they just skip the rather unpleasant step of letting a buttload of people die until enough of the population has been infected to attain herd immunity (again, the threshold here is likely to be well above 90%, given that measles is in that range and is much less infectious). OhhhJa posted... Viruses naturally evolve to become less deadly to their host. There's very little selective pressure for that in the case of Covid. As everyone's so fond of pointing out, its mortality rate is actually quite low already, and the fact that it's able to spread so readily without causing any symptoms at all (let alone killing the host) means it has very little to gain by evolving to be less lethal. Any less-lethal variant that arises is going to have virtually no reproductive advantages over the regular version, which makes it selectively neutral. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:946556995] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>If we're counting on a vaccine to make a coronavirus go away, well... you know the saying about wishing in one hand and s*ting in the other? Herd immunity is the strongest argument here</quote> If a vaccine won't make it go away (an assumption that's being made based on pretty much nothing except the fact that there hasn't been a successful one before, which kind of ignores pretty much the entire history of scientific progress), neither will herd immunity. Vaccines work by providing herd immunity, they just skip the rather unpleasant step of letting a buttload of people die until enough of the population has been infected to attain herd immunity (again, the threshold here is likely to be well above 90%, given that measles is in that range and is much less infectious). OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Viruses naturally evolve to become less deadly to their host.</quote> There's very little selective pressure for that in the case of Covid. As everyone's so fond of pointing out, its mortality rate is actually quite low already, and the fact that it's able to spread so readily without causing any symptoms at all (let alone killing the host) means it has very little to gain by evolving to be less lethal. Any less-lethal variant that arises is going to have virtually no reproductive advantages over the regular version, which makes it selectively neutral. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 10/31/20 10:40:58 PM #60:	adjl posted... If a vaccine won't make it go away (an assumption that's being made based on pretty much nothing except the fact that there hasn't been a successful one before, which kind of ignores pretty much the entire history of scientific progress), neither will herd immunity. Vaccines work by providing herd immunity, they just skip the rather unpleasant step of letting a buttload of people die until enough of the population has been infected to attain herd immunity (again, the threshold here is likely to be well above 90%, given that measles is in that range and is much less infectious). No, its based on the fact that the most successful coronovirus vaccine we've had is the flu and it's what like 30-50% effective at best from year to year. To expect a vaccine to reduce this down to zero cases is absurd. adjl posted... There's very little selective pressure for that in the case of Covid. As everyone's so fond of pointing out, its mortality rate is actually quite low already, and the fact that it's able to spread so readily without causing any symptoms at all (let alone killing the host) means it has very little to gain by evolving to be less lethal. Any less-lethal variant that arises is going to have virtually no reproductive advantages over the regular version, which makes it selectively neutral. And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal. It already seems to be less lethal than when it first took the world by storm and the death rate was estimated to be around 5%. Some of that could've been due to people like Cuomo causing it circulate in nursing homes though before incompetent governors and various other bureaucrats figured "hey maybe thats not a good idea." Sure, we could ride this out for god knows how long counting on a vaccine to work effectively while people die in the process from covid and the side effects of a shit economy or we resume and maybe lethality is reduced to what the flu or even common cold is <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:946557906] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>If a vaccine won't make it go away (an assumption that's being made based on pretty much nothing except the fact that there hasn't been a successful one before, which kind of ignores pretty much the entire history of scientific progress), neither will herd immunity. Vaccines work by providing herd immunity, they just skip the rather unpleasant step of letting a buttload of people die until enough of the population has been infected to attain herd immunity (again, the threshold here is likely to be well above 90%, given that measles is in that range and is much less infectious).</quote>No, its based on the fact that the most successful coronovirus vaccine we've had is the flu and it's what like 30-50% effective at best from year to year. To expect a vaccine to reduce this down to zero cases is absurd. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>There's very little selective pressure for that in the case of Covid. As everyone's so fond of pointing out, its mortality rate is actually quite low already, and the fact that it's able to spread so readily without causing any symptoms at all (let alone killing the host) means it has very little to gain by evolving to be less lethal. Any less-lethal variant that arises is going to have virtually no reproductive advantages over the regular version, which makes it selectively neutral.</quote>And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal. It already seems to be less lethal than when it first took the world by storm and the death rate was estimated to be around 5%. Some of that could've been due to people like Cuomo causing it circulate in nursing homes though before incompetent governors and various other bureaucrats figured "hey maybe thats not a good idea." Sure, we could ride this out for god knows how long counting on a vaccine to work effectively while people die in the process from covid and the side effects of a shit economy or we resume and maybe lethality is reduced to what the flu or even common cold is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/31/20 11:10:28 PM #61:	adjl posted... Do you disagree that keeping people in camps for their two-week isolation period is going to be more effective than simply telling them to isolate and hoping they listen? Depends on the person. Some people I know immediately locked themselves in their houses as soon as they heard they should. And some still haven't come out. And on base, they keep putting people on ROM... And the conditions for that are pretty weak. So, people keep getting tried to be put on ROM... Though, other people like not being homeless, so many of them still work so they can keep living in the place they currently do... Jen0125 posted... Are people just upset that they're designated camps instead of hotels? What's the difference between mandatory quarantine in a hotel vs a compound set up for it? I don't think it's just that... On base, we have people quarantined at the hotel for a little. They hated it there, as well... Though, I would say a hotel would still probably be better than whatever they are using... SunWuKung420 posted... Schmen would have gone to one and told us all about it since he supposedly moved there. I was wondering about this. We should probably ask him... SKARDAVNELNATE posted... I'm opposed to seizing property just as I'm opposed to seizing people. I will say they would probably pay a ton. I would say that if they use a hotel, they should pay for all the rooms (and not just the ones in use) for the whole time they have "control" of the hotel... OhhhJa posted... Now, its the war on viruses and they can tell us indefinitely what we're allowed to do at any given moment. Small businesses have all these restrictions yet big corporations like Walmart are allowed to operate unhindered. They're telling us to not get together with family for Thanksgiving but going to Walmart is ok. Lol this shit is beyond irrational and stupid. It does feel like a dystopian future the more and more I think about it... And we'll tell the future children how we use to be able to see family and get together and stuff. And we use to not have to worry about masks all the time. And stuff like that... OhhhJa posted... And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal. Though I disagree with that. If they ever decided to open up everything again, and let people do as they choose, it would spread like wildfire again. Mainly because a bunch of people would go out and party and it would most likely spread. Especially if many of them didn't show symptoms. And it would end up killing a lot more people... Most likely... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:946558797] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Do you disagree that keeping people in camps for their two-week isolation period is going to be more effective than simply telling them to isolate and hoping they listen?</quote> Depends on the person. Some people I know immediately locked themselves in their houses as soon as they heard they should. And some still haven't come out. And on base, they keep putting people on ROM... And the conditions for that are pretty weak. So, people keep getting tried to be put on ROM... Though, other people like not being homeless, so many of them still work so they can keep living in the place they currently do... Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>Are people just upset that they're designated camps instead of hotels? What's the difference between mandatory quarantine in a hotel vs a compound set up for it? </quote> I don't think it's just that... On base, we have people quarantined at the hotel for a little. They hated it there, as well... Though, I would say a hotel would still probably be better than whatever they are using... SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Schmen would have gone to one and told us all about it since he supposedly moved there.</quote> I was wondering about this. We should probably ask him... SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to seizing property just as I'm opposed to seizing people.</quote> I will say they would probably pay a ton. I would say that if they use a hotel, they should pay for all the rooms (and not just the ones in use) for the whole time they have "control" of the hotel... OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Now, its the war on viruses and they can tell us indefinitely what we're allowed to do at any given moment. Small businesses have all these restrictions yet big corporations like Walmart are allowed to operate unhindered. They're telling us to not get together with family for Thanksgiving but going to Walmart is ok. Lol this shit is beyond irrational and stupid.</quote> It does feel like a dystopian future the more and more I think about it... And we'll tell the future children how we use to be able to see family and get together and stuff. And we use to not have to worry about masks all the time. And stuff like that... OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal.</quote> Though I disagree with that. If they ever decided to open up everything again, and let people do as they choose, it would spread like wildfire again. Mainly because a bunch of people would go out and party and it would most likely spread. Especially if many of them didn't show symptoms. And it would end up killing a lot more people... Most likely...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noop_Noop 11/01/20 12:31:55 AM #62:	LinkPizza posted... I was wondering about this. We should probably ask him... they have been doing managed isolation since the 5th. hotels and shit, it all looked nice enough. i just isolated in my townhouse since we flew private and went straight from the runway. i've been out for almost a week, and ive left the house once aside from daily dog walks. no idea what the fuck camps people are talking about. --- I think there might be something wrong with you <cite>Noop_Noop posted [p:946562440] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>I was wondering about this. We should probably ask him...</quote> they have been doing managed isolation since the 5th. hotels and shit, it all looked nice enough. i just isolated in my townhouse since we flew private and went straight from the runway. i've been out for almost a week, and ive left the house once aside from daily dog walks. no idea what the fuck camps people are talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 11/01/20 12:44:03 AM #63:	@Noop_Noop You in New Zealand? Where about are you staying? --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:946562702] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>@Noop_Noop You in New Zealand? Where about are you staying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/01/20 12:58:18 AM #64:	Noop_Noop posted... i just isolated in my townhouse since we flew private and went straight from the runway. i've been out for almost a week, and ive left the house once aside from daily dog walks. Now that I honk about it, I think you mentioned this before somewhere... At least, some of it... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:946563014] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>Noop_Noop posted...</cite> <quote>i just isolated in my townhouse since we flew private and went straight from the runway. i've been out for almost a week, and ive left the house once aside from daily dog walks.</quote> Now that I honk about it, I think you mentioned this before somewhere... At least, some of it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noop_Noop 11/01/20 12:32:19 PM #65:	DeltaBladeX posted... @Noop_Noop You in New Zealand? Where about are you staying? @DeltaBladeX Methven. Canterbury region, like an hour west of Christchurch. its a tiny town. 2000 people maybe. quiet. just how i like it. --- I think there might be something wrong with you <cite>Noop_Noop posted [p:946575815] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>DeltaBladeX posted... </cite> <quote>@Noop_Noop You in New Zealand? Where about are you staying?</quote> @DeltaBladeX Methven. Canterbury region, like an hour west of Christchurch. its a tiny town. 2000 people maybe. quiet. just how i like it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 11/01/20 1:02:51 PM #66:	OhhhJa posted... No, its based on the fact that the most successful coronovirus vaccine we've had is the flu ... Influenza is not a coronavirus. I don't know what you think that has to do with anything. Again, though, "we haven't had a successful coronavirus vaccine yet" does not mean "a successful coronavirus vaccine is impossible." That's just a straight up Argument from Ignorance fallacy, and ignores the entirety of human scientific progress. If making a vaccine is impossible, that will become apparent by next summer or so as we run out of viable candidates. Until then, throwing our hands up and concluding that we can't possibly do anything to stop this is just silly and will sacrifice millions of lives for basically no reason. OhhhJa posted... To expect a vaccine to reduce this down to zero cases is absurd. Expecting it to reduce cases to a manageable level, however, is much more reasonable. Again, vaccines provide herd immunity. They don't replace it. Suggesting that relying herd immunity is a better idea than relying on vaccinations completely misunderstands pretty much the entire role that vaccines play in public health. OhhhJa posted... And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal. The passage you quoted explained why that's not particularly likely. Evidently, you didn't understand, so I'm going to invite you to point out the parts that confused you so I can do a better job of explaining them. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:946576776] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>No, its based on the fact that the most successful coronovirus vaccine we've had is the flu</quote> ... Influenza is not a coronavirus. I don't know what you think that has to do with anything. Again, though, "we haven't had a successful coronavirus vaccine yet" does not mean "a successful coronavirus vaccine is impossible." That's just a straight up Argument from Ignorance fallacy, and ignores the entirety of human scientific progress. If making a vaccine is impossible, that will become apparent by next summer or so as we run out of viable candidates. Until then, throwing our hands up and concluding that we can't possibly do anything to stop this is just silly and will sacrifice millions of lives for basically no reason. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>To expect a vaccine to reduce this down to zero cases is absurd.</quote> Expecting it to reduce cases to a manageable level, however, is much more reasonable. Again, vaccines provide herd immunity. They don't replace it. Suggesting that relying herd immunity is a better idea than relying on vaccinations completely misunderstands pretty much the entire role that vaccines play in public health. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>And it could potentially become even less lethal if we resume life as normal.</quote> The passage you quoted explained why that's not particularly likely. Evidently, you didn't understand, so I'm going to invite you to point out the parts that confused you so I can do a better job of explaining them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 11/01/20 1:40:58 PM #67:	I would love to weigh in on this topic but I disagree with several of the premises. What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:946578088] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>I would love to weigh in on this topic but I disagree with several of the premises. What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 11/01/20 1:45:10 PM #68:	DDirtyDastard posted... What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this. Any precedent such camps would set has already been set by existing quarantine laws. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:946578270] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>DDirtyDastard posted... </cite> <quote>What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this.</quote> Any precedent such camps would set has already been set by existing quarantine laws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 11/01/20 2:59:27 PM #69:	DDirtyDastard posted... What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this. Well don't worry, they don't exist. We have hotels where anyone coming from out of the country will go into quarantine, but we aren't making camps for it. Only conservative news is claiming that. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:946581050] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>DDirtyDastard posted...</cite> <quote>What I can say is that I believe these types of camps establish a very dangerous precedent and people should not be okay with this.</quote> Well don't worry, they don't exist. We have hotels where anyone coming from out of the country will go into quarantine, but we aren't making camps for it. Only conservative news is claiming that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 11/02/20 7:05:47 PM #70:	DeltaBladeX posted... We have hotels where anyone coming from out of the country will go into quarantine, but we aren't making camps for it. Is that the the important part, where people are forced to stay? I thought it was the mandatory part that made it dangerous. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:946632443] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>DeltaBladeX posted... </cite> <quote>We have hotels where anyone coming from out of the country will go into quarantine, but we aren't making camps for it.</quote>Is that the the important part, where people are forced to stay? I thought it was the mandatory part that made it dangerous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 11/02/20 7:20:27 PM #71:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Is that the the important part, <u>where</u> people are forced to stay? I thought it was the mandatory part that made it dangerous. Certain groups are claiming we have terribly made camps, rather than quality hotels, for quarantining people from outside of the country. When I looked up any information about what this topic is about, I only found Fox and other conservative news complaints and lies. We are doing this, because there were people who were allowed to enter the country that were all 'yeah, I'll quarantine myself' and then drove around the country site seeing and going to be with family here. We like not having hundreds of people catching it every day and others dying. We like how people can live normally after having to lock down hard. We aren't throwing that away just because people coming from outside NZ don't want to put up with the same restrictions we were willing to put up with. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:946632949] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>Is that the the important part, <u>where</u> people are forced to stay? I thought it was the mandatory part that made it dangerous.</quote> Certain groups are claiming we have terribly made camps, rather than quality hotels, for quarantining people from outside of the country. When I looked up any information about what this topic is about, I only found Fox and other conservative news complaints and lies. We are doing this, because there were people who were allowed to enter the country that were all 'yeah, I'll quarantine myself' and then drove around the country site seeing and going to be with family here. We like not having hundreds of people catching it every day and others dying. We like how people can live normally after having to lock down hard. We aren't throwing that away just because people coming from outside NZ don't want to put up with the same restrictions we were willing to put up with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 11/03/20 11:01:50 PM #72:	When there are too many deer, we cull them. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:946689013] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>When there are too many deer, we cull them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noop_Noop 11/03/20 11:04:56 PM #73:	DeltaBladeX posted... Certain groups are claiming we have terribly made camps, rather than quality hotels, for quarantining people from outside of the country. When I looked up any information about what this topic is about, I only found Fox and other conservative news complaints and lies. We are doing this, because there were people who were allowed to enter the country that were all 'yeah, I'll quarantine myself' and then drove around the country site seeing and going to be with family here. We like not having hundreds of people catching it every day and others dying. We like how people can live normally after having to lock down hard. We aren't throwing that away just because people coming from outside NZ don't want to put up with the same restrictions we were willing to put up with. And again, I want to reiterate, they did let me do my managed isolation at home --- I think there might be something wrong with you <cite>Noop_Noop posted [p:946689166] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>DeltaBladeX posted... </cite> <quote>Certain groups are claiming we have terribly made camps, rather than quality hotels, for quarantining people from outside of the country. When I looked up any information about what this topic is about, I only found Fox and other conservative news complaints and lies. We are doing this, because there were people who were allowed to enter the country that were all 'yeah, I'll quarantine myself' and then drove around the country site seeing and going to be with family here. We like not having hundreds of people catching it every day and others dying. We like how people can live normally after having to lock down hard. We aren't throwing that away just because people coming from outside NZ don't want to put up with the same restrictions we were willing to put up with.</quote> And again, I want to reiterate, they did let me do my managed isolation at home </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 11/04/20 1:28:34 AM #74:	Noop_Noop posted... And again, I want to reiterate, they did let me do my managed isolation at home How long ago did you get here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_managed_isolation_in_New_Zealand --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:946695566] in Mandatory ... [t:79074600]...</cite> <quote>Noop_Noop posted...</cite> <quote>And again, I want to reiterate, they did let me do my managed isolation at home</quote> How long ago did you get here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_managed_isolation_in_New_Zealand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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