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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:21:02 AM
#53:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
This topic is full of super old accounts with low AMP getting riled up and being blatantly Islamophobic. Wheres this energy when white supremacists attack and kill people in the streets and shoot up mosques? What about when a white supremacist shot up a Black church? You guys seem really worried that Christians are prosecuted but dont give a fuck when its violent white supremacists doing the prosecution. You all can stop pretending that youre doing this in good faith and then we can have an actual discussion.

I have a super old account and I will crap on any and all christian groups that commit wrongdoing. This is a topic about Islamic terrorism though. Weird deflection on your part. We should be able to condemn Islamic terror without a "what about the proud boys" type deflection.

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TooLateToGoBack
10/29/20 8:21:52 AM
#54:


religion of peace

you reap what you sow, Europe
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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:22:17 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I have a hard time believing anyone would compare the right to wear a burqa with the right to have an abortion beyond the obvious that both should be allowed.

There is a big difference between the right to wear a burqa and being culturally restrained to wearing a burqa.


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Twin3Turbo
10/29/20 8:23:50 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
No one does this. This is 2020 and any rational human being can recognize extremism in both those religions, violent or otherwise.
It literally happens every time n atrocity is committed in the name of Islam and is literally happening in this very topic right now.

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BurmesePenguin
10/29/20 8:24:14 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
There is a big difference between the right to wear a burqa and being culturally restrained to wearing a burqa.
Okay?

who is being culturally restraimed to get abortions?

Im confused what point youre making and how it differs from mine.
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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:24:36 AM
#58:


Jagr_68 posted...
No one does this. This is 2020 and any rational human being can recognize extremism in both those religions, violent or otherwise.

People need to stop saying this. Have you ever stepped foot in a liberal college before? White people with white guilt savior complex go to bat for Islam all the time. At best they tend to bOtH sIdEs all religions or they claim that Christianity rules the world as the prevailing religion of western culture so Muslims are minorities.

I see it all the time and this topic is the first instance I've seen of people so blatantly trying to deny this.

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Beemo_Season11
10/29/20 8:25:12 AM
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When white supremists do terrorist acts, there's tons of outrage, protests, boycotts, canceling, and laws created.
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Twin3Turbo
10/29/20 8:25:39 AM
#60:


TommyG663513 posted...
I have a super old account and I will crap on any and all christian groups that commit wrongdoing. This is a topic about Islamic terrorism though. Weird deflection on your part. We should be able to condemn Islamic terror without a "what about the proud boys" type deflection.
Same. All these religions can get an equal shitting upon from me. Well, maybe not equal because a particular religion seems to behead people more often than others, so I might have to speak on that one a bit more than the others. But some people dont like that

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VTBM
10/29/20 8:25:46 AM
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That's just their culture though. /s

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:29:43 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Okay?

who is being culturally restraimed to get abortions?

Im confused what point youre making and how it differs from mine.

People defend Islam for culturally restraining women to wearing burqas and that is very much a reality in numerous islamic countries

People attack Christianity for unfruitful attempts to overturn roe v wade

There are many people who believe both of these things at the same time. There is a big difference between women having the ability to choose to have an abortion or not and women being forced to wear burqas.

Burqas are just one part of a massively patriarchal society btw. I wouldn't get hung up on that specific part. It isn't like they force women to wear burqas and then otherwise women are seen as 100% equal to men. It extends well beyond a burqa.

The "freedom" to wear a burqa lol wtf. There is a difference between the burqa and the hijab.


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21WIVES_CHILL
10/29/20 8:31:10 AM
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This is why it's important to have concealed carry gun laws.
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Phynaster
10/29/20 8:31:39 AM
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Interesting how Muslims being attacked in France gets 5 posts, the opposite gets this

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voldothegr8
10/29/20 8:31:44 AM
#65:


TommyG663513 posted...
It's so weird how people avoid stepping on egg shells with Islam

It's eggshells here because of the mods. I can't post how I feel, no matter how diplomatic, without fear of getting modded
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NinjaWarrior455
10/29/20 8:35:37 AM
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Nothing like a big dose of islamaphobia in the morning.

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:37:42 AM
#67:


voldothegr8 posted...
It's eggshells here because of the mods. I can't post how I feel, no matter how diplomatic, without fear of getting modded

In all honesty, why care that much about being modded on this site? Getting a post deleted or being suspended isn't a very big deal.

I'd rather try and say what I want to say in the most diplomatic way possible and if I go over a line then I will try to understand that and better work within the constraints in the future.

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King_Hutton
10/29/20 8:37:48 AM
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I generally see a lot of leftists and liberals defending Muslims against discrimination and none condoning attacks like this

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NeoShadowhen
10/29/20 8:38:14 AM
#69:


Phynaster posted...
Interesting how Muslims being attacked in France gets 5 posts, the opposite gets this

Do you have a link to something about the incident that you speak of?
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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:38:39 AM
#70:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Nothing like a big dose of islamaphobia in the morning.

bOtH sIdEs

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:41:30 AM
#71:


King_Hutton posted...
I generally see a lot of leftists and liberals defending Muslims against discrimination and none condoning attacks like this

No one ever condones an attack like this, but they "understand" the frustration of the perpetrators and why many who are a part of Islam would take such great offense and how horrible it was that Mohammed was depicted in such a way. Then they mention the people who were killed like an after thought.

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TooLateToGoBack
10/29/20 8:42:35 AM
#72:


Phynaster posted...
Interesting how Muslims being attacked in France gets 5 posts, the opposite gets this


you mean the two women attacked by shitheads that got two pages worth of replies is equivalent to beheadings?

fucking liblefts
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ModLogic
10/29/20 8:43:06 AM
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NICE, France (Reuters) - A knife-wielding attacker shouting Allahu Akbar beheaded a woman and killed two other people in a suspected terrorist act at a church in the French city of Nice on Thursday, while a gunman was shot dead by police in a separate incident.
Within hours of the Nice attack, police killed a man who had threatened passersby with a handgun in Montfavet, near the southern French city of Avignon. He was also shouting Allahu Akbar (God is greatest), according to radio station Europe 1.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-security-nice/three-dead-as-woman-beheaded-in-france-gunman-killed-in-second-incident-idUSKBN27E17D


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The_Creep_2020
10/29/20 8:43:57 AM
#74:


TooLateToGoBack posted...
religion of peace

you reap what you sow, Europe
Please, explain how Europe is reaping what they have sown, chief.

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FursonaNonGrata
10/29/20 8:44:33 AM
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Ironically enough no one who is part of the Islmaophobia brigade seems to give a fuck about the victims either. Its almost as if theyre an afterthought to the agenda of disparaging all Muslims and sharing xenophobic ideology right out of Stormfront and /pol/

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LightHawKnight
10/29/20 8:45:39 AM
#76:


TommyG663513 posted...
No one ever condones an attack like this, but they "understand" the frustration of the perpetrators and why many who are a part of Islam would take such great offense and how horrible it was that Mohammed was depicted in such a way. Then they mention the people who were killed like an after thought.

Really hate the understand rhetoric. Who the fuck cares if you understand their suffering. Stop allowing people to do bad shit cause of it.

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BurmesePenguin
10/29/20 8:45:46 AM
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Who defends Islamic culture pushing burqas or headscarfs on people?

Ive legitimately never heard this from anyone extrant from said culture.
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The_Creep_2020
10/29/20 8:45:55 AM
#78:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
Ironically enough no one who is part of the Islmaophobia brigade seems to give a fuck about the victims either. Its almost as if theyre an afterthought to the agenda of disparaging all Muslims and sharing xenophobic ideology right out of Stormfront and /pol/

The Islamophobia brigade dont give two shits. Theyre too busy screaming see! This is what happens!

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:46:31 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
Ironically enough no one who is part of the Islmaophobia brigade seems to give a fuck about the victims either. Its almost as if theyre an afterthought to the agenda of disparaging all Muslims and sharing xenophobic ideology right out of Stormfront and /pol/

What type of weird deflection is this? Who said they don't care about the victims?

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FursonaNonGrata
10/29/20 8:47:06 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
What type of weird deflection is this? Who said they don't care about the victims?

Literally you. Youre so giddy at the chance to spread Islamophobic horseshit that your brain just shuts off and you make post after post without even thinking. Its like autopilot for bigotry.

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:52:22 AM
#81:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Who defends Islamic culture pushing burqas or headscarfs on people?

Ive legitimately never heard this from anyone extrant from said culture.

I don't know what to tell you.

I went to a very liberal Big Ten college. I was a psych major. I participated in tons of discussions on this stuff. In French class we had to watch a bunch of stuff on how the hijab was banned in public schools in France. I participated in many large group and small group discussions on this stuff. I heard people say tons of things of the sort.

I'm not sure why everyone is acting like I need evidence of social media posts for this to be true. I get that not everyone went to the same liberal college and pursued the same liberal degree that I got.

If it isn't clear by now I'm a very liberal person and LGBT. I will be voting democrat across the board next week.

Still, Islam and Christianity both have a long list of things about them that are problematic, but I have very serious levels of frustration with liberal people who constantly try to bOtH sIdEs their way out of acknowledging any differences between Islam and Christianity.

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ohiostate124
10/29/20 8:52:48 AM
#82:


TommyG663513 posted...
No one ever condones an attack like this, but they "understand" the frustration of the perpetrators and why many who are a part of Islam would take such great offense and how horrible it was that Mohammed was depicted in such a way. Then they mention the people who were killed like an after thought.
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Zano
10/29/20 8:54:22 AM
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Fuck anybody who defends this shit. Fuck religion in general. Simple logic necessitates that 99% of religion (at minimum) is lies due to contradictions. Yet Im supposed to respect those beliefs? No, fuck you


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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:55:11 AM
#84:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
Literally you. Youre so giddy at the chance to spread Islamophobic horseshit that your brain just shuts off and you make post after post without even thinking. Its like autopilot for bigotry.

Um no dude. I'm an LGBT person and I'm super anti anybody associated with any religion that wouldn't treat me as an equal. Go ahead and create a topic taking a dump on Christianity and I will go post in it and take a dump on Christianity too. This is a topic about an Islamic terror attack so the discussion is about that.

Weird how you see me being anti religions that trample on people's rights as being Islamaphobia.

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TommyG663513
10/29/20 8:56:04 AM
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ohiostate124 posted...
Making excuses for people cutting heads off huh?

A few people did it itt before their posts were deleted. I've seen it irl as well.

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Geist des Durcheinan
10/29/20 8:56:13 AM
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Imagine where we would be as a society if we could eliminate all this backwards superstitious nonsense.

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viewmaster_pi
10/29/20 8:56:48 AM
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religion of etc

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The_Creep_2020
10/29/20 8:58:34 AM
#88:


Geist des Durcheinan posted...
Imagine where we would be as a society if we could eliminate all this backwards superstitious nonsense.
Yeah, Im glad people dont murder anyone over other things like politics.

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Beemo_Season11
10/29/20 8:59:50 AM
#89:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Nothing like a big dose of islamaphobia in the morning.

I never understand this kind of concern trolling. Islam is a religion you choose to follow, its not some sort of trait you are born with.
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TommyG663513
10/29/20 9:00:04 AM
#90:


The_Creep_2020 posted...
Yeah, Im glad people dont murder anyone over other things like politics.

Politics may as well be religion to many. There is a lot of overlap between the two anyways.

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ssjevot
10/29/20 9:01:34 AM
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Beemo_Season11 posted...
I never understand this kind of concern trolling. Islam is a religion you choose to follow, its not some sort of trait you are born with.

Depends on where you are born. Some countries have the death penalty for apostasy.

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Twin3Turbo
10/29/20 9:01:43 AM
#92:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Nothing like a big dose of islamaphobia in the morning.
Stop using that silly word. A phobia is supposed to be an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about fearing an ideology that regularly leads people to behead others for minor infractions

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Twin3Turbo
10/29/20 9:04:22 AM
#93:


voldothegr8 posted...
It's eggshells here because of the mods. I can't post how I feel, no matter how diplomatic, without fear of getting modded
I see people say this all the time yet I speak n how I feel about Islam all the time without being modded. Im doing it in this very topic.

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SocksForWokMAX5
10/29/20 9:07:48 AM
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RIP to the victims
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TommyG663513
10/29/20 9:11:40 AM
#96:


ssjevot posted...
Depends on where you are born. Some countries have the death penalty for apostasy.

They certainly have more freedom to leave once they're in America or other Western nations.

I do know some Muslim born people in America who like to drink and eat pork and need to keep that away from their parents out of fear of being disowned. I don't mean that lightly either. Like they're pretty adamant that their parents will cut them off completely and never ever speak to them again of they found out they were drinking and eating pork.

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ohiostate124
10/29/20 9:13:50 AM
#97:


hockeybub89 posted...
This is horrible. Fuck Islam and fuck religion

So is fearing white conservatives in America a rational fear then? You have to be consistent.
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Gwynevere
10/29/20 9:14:42 AM
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Individuals who carry out atrocities in the name of their religion are despicable, but the important word here is individual

Don'tlet your emotions dictate your feelings on an entire group of people

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WashYourHands
10/29/20 9:17:41 AM
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Some humans are crazy

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uwnim
10/29/20 9:18:33 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So is fearing white conservatives in America a rational fear then? You have to be consistent.
Pretty much, yeah. Far right groups in America keep threatening violence and sometimes actually do shit.

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uwnim
10/29/20 9:19:32 AM
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Anyways, back on topic, what the fuck is wrong with people? How fucked up in the head do they have to be to think attacking and killing people like this is okay?

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viewmaster_pi
10/29/20 9:22:59 AM
#104:


uwnim posted...
Anyways, back on topic, what the fuck is wrong with people? How fucked up in the head do they have to be to think attacking and killing people like this is okay?
they were raised to think it's okay because their religion- their reason for being alive, said so

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EvilutionV316
10/29/20 9:23:59 AM
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Trump's Ameri...oh wait.

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