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HylianFox 10/26/20 9:21:23 PM #1:	https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/10/19/this-pastor-left-his-own-church-because-it-was-too-full-of-trump-supporters/ For 30 years, Keith Mannes served as pastor for the East Saugatuck Christian Reformed Church in Michigan. He gave his final sermon last week and not because he was in any rush to retire. Mannes knew his church, by and large, supports Donald Trump. That means even if they worship the same God, their values are very, very different. Mannes eventually decided it was better for him to leave the church than lead a congregation that believes Trump is making America greater. Perhaps one day, American Christianity can regain its reputation as a faith that elevates the weak and the marginalized over the rich and powerful in other words, do what it claims to want to do, though there is plenty of debate over whether American Christianity ever did that at all. --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:946343356] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/10/19/this-pastor-left-his-own-church-because-it-was-too-full-of-trump-supporters/ <quote>For 30 years, Keith Mannes served as pastor for the East Saugatuck Christian Reformed Church in Michigan. He gave his final sermon last week and not because he was in any rush to retire. Mannes knew his church, by and large, supports Donald Trump. That means even if they worship the same God, their values are very, very different. Mannes eventually decided it was better for him to leave the church than lead a congregation that believes Trump is making America greater.</quote> <quote>Perhaps one day, American Christianity can regain its reputation as a faith that elevates the weak and the marginalized over the rich and powerful in other words, do what it claims to want to do, though there is plenty of debate over whether American Christianity ever did that at all.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 10/26/20 9:21:57 PM #2:	The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:946343383] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/26/20 9:23:00 PM #3:	good for him. I respect that decision wholeheartedly. --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington <cite>Machete posted [p:946343427] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>good for him. I respect that decision wholeheartedly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/26/20 9:23:15 PM #4:	Autocraticus posted... The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. Lol fuck off. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946343440] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Autocraticus posted... </cite> <quote>The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful.</quote>Lol fuck off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 10/26/20 9:24:31 PM #5:	Cool. --- ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY & Zed <cite>davyheinz posted [p:946343496] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BudDupree48 10/26/20 9:27:05 PM #7:	Abandoned his duty to his god savior lmao --- BANG BANG STEELER GANG <cite>BudDupree48 posted [p:946343597] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Abandoned his duty to his god savior lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 10/26/20 9:28:29 PM #8:	Autocraticus posted... The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. Not his fault his sheeps are following the wolf knowing full well they're going to get eaten. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:946343646] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Autocraticus posted... </cite> <quote>The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful.</quote>Not his fault his sheeps are following the wolf knowing full well they're going to get eaten. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 10/26/20 9:30:06 PM #9:	Sounds like the flock abandoned the shepherd and decided to worship Mammon. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:946343710] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like the flock abandoned the shepherd and decided to worship Mammon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/26/20 9:34:33 PM #10:	People who claim to be Christian but vote for Republicans are not real Christians <cite>Zikten posted [p:946343916] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>People who claim to be Christian but vote for Republicans are not real Christians</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 10/26/20 9:43:38 PM #11:	I'm sure he thought about it for a while. The Republican party has been associated with the white right wing Christians and Catholics for some time now. Watching the vast amounts of people ignore the teachings of their own religion and worship the idol that is Trump, even going as far to say he is chosen by God contradicts those teachings. That's on top of the fact that the USA isn't a country that operates based on the Christian religion. Christianity has failed in the United States. People need to stop pretending and quit using Jesus to hide behind. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:946344313] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure he thought about it for a while. The Republican party has been associated with the white right wing Christians and Catholics for some time now. Watching the vast amounts of people ignore the teachings of their own religion and worship the idol that is Trump, even going as far to say he is chosen by God contradicts those teachings. That's on top of the fact that the USA isn't a country that operates based on the Christian religion. Christianity has failed in the United States. People need to stop pretending and quit using Jesus to hide behind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 10/26/20 9:51:17 PM #12:	Alt left marxist Keith Mannes abandons God, small government, the nuclear family, and the second amendment! --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:946344661] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Alt left marxist Keith Mannes abandons God, small government, the nuclear family, and the second amendment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 10/26/20 9:51:45 PM #13:	Autocraticus posted... The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. No. His flock decided to worship a false idol and abandoned their faith. The Preacher decided to focus on souls that could actually be saved. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:946344677] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Autocraticus posted...</cite> <quote>The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful.</quote> No. His flock decided to worship a false idol and abandoned their faith. The Preacher decided to focus on souls that could actually be saved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/26/20 9:53:05 PM #14:	The rest of the church officials need to follow suit now. Not that many of them are terribly good people, but it's something. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:946344723] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>The rest of the church officials need to follow suit now. Not that many of them are terribly good people, but it's something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 10/26/20 9:53:27 PM #15:	Not everyone can pull a Moses and invoke the powers that be to cause the fat golden calf the idiots propped up to worship to be swallowed by the earth. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:946344739] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Not everyone can pull a Moses and invoke the powers that be to cause the fat golden calf the idiots propped up to worship to be swallowed by the earth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 10/26/20 9:57:18 PM #16:	Zikten posted... People who claim to be Christian but vote for Republicans are not real Christians Which is a huge chunk of them --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:946344890] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>People who claim to be Christian but vote for Republicans are not real Christians</quote> Which is a huge chunk of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/26/20 9:58:49 PM #17:	Autocraticus posted... The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful. At least you're admitting Trump supporters are a bunch of sheep --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:946344930] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Autocraticus posted... </cite> <quote>The Shepard who abandoned his flock. How awful.</quote>At least you're admitting Trump supporters are a bunch of sheep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 10/26/20 9:59:52 PM #18:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Which is a huge chunk of them Which is a vast majority of them --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:946344968] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite> <quote>Which is a huge chunk of them</quote> Which is a vast majority of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teh_Dr_Phil 10/26/20 10:00:39 PM #19:	Machete posted... good for him. I respect that decision wholeheartedly. --- Yep. <cite>Teh_Dr_Phil posted [p:946344989] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>good for him. I respect that decision wholeheartedly.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/26/20 10:02:43 PM #20:	mach25687 posted... Not his fault his sheeps are following the wolf knowing full well they're going to get eaten. I mean, there is some responsibility there. He can spend his sermons calling out Trump, and people are free to leave the church if they disagree. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:946345060] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>mach25687 posted... </cite> <quote>Not his fault his sheeps are following the wolf knowing full well they're going to get eaten.</quote>I mean, there is some responsibility there. He can spend his sermons calling out Trump, and people are free to leave the church if they disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/26/20 10:05:28 PM #21:	Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:946345180] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 10/26/20 10:05:35 PM #22:	Sounds childish and narcissistic. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:946345189] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Sounds childish and narcissistic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/26/20 10:06:14 PM #23:	Irony posted... Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican. Is anyone reporting on attempting the alternative? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:946345207] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican.</quote>Is anyone reporting on attempting the alternative? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 10/26/20 10:06:36 PM #24:	Irony posted... Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican. What? Priest are supposed to follow the teachings of their religion which means they should absolutely not be neutral. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:946345215] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican.</quote> What? Priest are supposed to follow the teachings of their religion which means they should absolutely not be neutral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BudDupree48 10/26/20 10:07:03 PM #25:	Irony posted... Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican. Lmao thats incredible --- BANG BANG STEELER GANG <cite>BudDupree48 posted [p:946345233] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Priests are suppose to technically remain neutral on this which is why he is leaving. A lot of Catholic pastors have been saying voting for Biden is a sin which has actively pissed off the Vatican.</quote> Lmao thats incredible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/26/20 10:07:48 PM #26:	harley2280 posted... What? Priest are supposed to follow the teachings of their religion which means they should absolutely not be neutral. Their teaching is to accept people's political beliefs and not try to sway people from them. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:946345254] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>What? Priest are supposed to follow the teachings of their religion which means they should absolutely not be neutral.</quote>Their teaching is to accept people's political beliefs and not try to sway people from them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 10/26/20 10:26:35 PM #27:	I really dont understand why religious people like Trump when he held the bible upside down. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:946346058] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>I really dont understand why religious people like Trump when he held the bible upside down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/27/20 1:19:25 PM #28:	True Christians would not even be supporting Trump. Yet another reason why American "Christians" are Christians in name only. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:946367607] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>True Christians would not even be supporting Trump. Yet another reason why American "Christians" are Christians in name only. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 10/27/20 1:21:02 PM #29:	Irony posted... Their teaching is to accept people's political beliefs and not try to sway people from them. Where did you get this from? --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:946367671] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Their teaching is to accept people's political beliefs and not try to sway people from them.</quote> Where did you get this from? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 10/27/20 1:21:44 PM #30:	Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:946367698] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Relient_K 10/27/20 1:25:51 PM #31:	I'm feeling similar to this pastor. I'm by no means a pastor, though I meet many of the requirements needed by many denominations. It is disgusting to see other church goers defend this maniac as he piece by piece destroys our nation and eggs on his followers to step on the downtrodden. Trump represents a grand total of 0 Biblical Christian values. I dont know how we (the church) got to this place but it scares me. --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER] <cite>Relient_K posted [p:946367858] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>I'm feeling similar to this pastor. I'm by no means a pastor, though I meet many of the requirements needed by many denominations. It is disgusting to see other church goers defend this maniac as he piece by piece destroys our nation and eggs on his followers to step on the downtrodden. Trump represents a grand total of 0 Biblical Christian values. I dont know how we (the church) got to this place but it scares me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/27/20 1:29:03 PM #32:	CyricZ posted... I mean, there is some responsibility there. He can spend his sermons calling out Trump, and people are free to leave the church if they disagree. Doing that during election season could cost the church its tax exempt status IIRC --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:946367988] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, there is some responsibility there. He can spend his sermons calling out Trump, and people are free to leave the church if they disagree.</quote>Doing that during election season could cost the church its tax exempt status IIRC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/27/20 1:30:54 PM #33:	LightHawKnight posted... I really dont understand why religious people like Trump when he held the bible upside down. "Is that your Bible?" "It's a Bible." --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:946368059] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>I really dont understand why religious people like Trump when he held the bible upside down.</quote> "Is that your Bible?" "It's a Bible."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 10/27/20 1:31:29 PM #34:	HylianFox posted... Mannes eventually decided it was better for him to leave the church than lead a congregation that believes Trump is making America greater. a Christian with actual morals. amazing they still exist <cite>Poop2 posted [p:946368077] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite> <quote>Mannes eventually decided it was better for him to leave the church than lead a congregation that believes Trump is making America greater.</quote>a Christian with actual morals. amazing they still exist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RIPVyseCity 10/27/20 1:36:49 PM #35:	DeadBankerDream posted... Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian. DeadBankerDream posted... Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian. What about the Gelgameks? <cite>RIPVyseCity posted [p:946368333] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian.</quote> DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>Well, if you support Trump you are not human, and I'm pretty sure you have to be human to be a Christian.</quote> What about the Gelgameks? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 10/27/20 1:44:40 PM #36:	Lathissamus posted... Sounds childish and narcissistic. Just like Trump. And that's why he's leaving..... --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:946368655] in Pastor lea... [t:79065825]...</cite> <quote>Lathissamus posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds childish and narcissistic.</quote> Just like Trump. And that's why he's leaving..... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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