Poll of the Day > Why do some men sexually assault women (and other men)?

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JigsawTDC
10/21/20 5:04:28 PM
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Does anyone know or has had their life ruined by some dick that just straight up sexually assaulted them?

If so, how did it affect your or his/her life?

I've never seen or witnessed something like that, but I cannot imagine the humiliation and horror of being assaulted.
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FatalAccident
10/21/20 5:06:08 PM
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idk what to make of this topic

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Jen0125
10/21/20 5:07:30 PM
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A lot of women have been sexually assaulted or will be in their lifetime. Like more than half.

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Zeus
10/21/20 5:10:16 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
idk what to make of this topic

I take it as a low-effort trollish spoof of the other topic:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79054318


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wwinterj25
10/21/20 6:24:55 PM
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Woman can rape too. Why would anyone forcefully rape anyone I don't know, wish to know and believe rapists that do that are the scum of this earth. Statutory rape though becomes more grey.

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Mead
10/21/20 6:41:03 PM
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I think a lot of it comes from some people not understanding or simply not caring about how what they do has an effect on how another person feels

from their perspective theyre just making a move on someone they find attractive but they didnt stop to consider whether that person has given any signals that they want that

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Shadowbird_RH
10/21/20 6:46:42 PM
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More hormones than charisma I'd guess.

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FatalAccident
10/22/20 4:08:32 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Statutory rape though becomes more grey.
How lol

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Xfma100
10/22/20 4:13:31 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
A lot of women have been sexually assaulted or will be in their lifetime. Like more than half.

What?
Do you have a source Jen?
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IronBornCorps
10/22/20 4:14:24 AM
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I'm an assault survivor. Like Jen said, it's not exactly uncommon for women to experience it.

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lorekai
10/22/20 4:21:11 AM
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I was assaulted when I was younger, it messed me up for a long time.

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IronBornCorps
10/22/20 4:24:05 AM
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I will add from my own experience (which is by no means universal)

I hate the idea of experiencing sexual assault "ruining" somebody. It is certainly something that takes time to heal, but I remember people would look at me different when I would tell them (this was during the beginning of #meToo).

Like I was tupperware that had red sauce in it, and would always be stained. Like I don't think about it very often, and it doesn't affect my daily life. This is decades after it first happened, so I've lived with it. I just hate when people treat me like broken china or victim blame because my neighbor never kept track of his teenage son.

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SpeedDemon20
10/22/20 4:27:50 AM
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I've known a few people who were assaulted. It was usually always someone they knew or sorta knew.

Like another person in a group of friends they only know because of the friend group. The story typically starts with a group hangout, getting a drink, a huge blackout, waking up in bed, naked, next to the perpetrator, and going to the bathroom extremely confused. From there it varies from crying to denial that anything happened.

I can't explain the motive of the perpetrator.

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LinkPizza
10/22/20 9:47:15 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
How lol

Because its a different situation. Many times, statutory rape can be consensual between both parties. It just that its not suppose I happen due to ages. And sometimes, the younger one lies about their age just to sleep with the older one. Every case is different. But hes right to say it gets more grey when dealing with statutory...
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FatalAccident
10/22/20 10:08:44 AM
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^ I guess

but then I would always default to youre the adult lol

except when a mf lies about age, I suppose like you say every case is different. So yeah I would agree, greyish in general but not totally Frey


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FatalAccident
10/22/20 10:08:57 AM
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Frey? I obvs meant grey

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LinkPizza
10/22/20 10:12:07 AM
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Yeah. The biggest problem is when they lie. Which happens quite a bit, I think. The problem is they are still considered a victim, so nothing ever happened to to them. Like, maybe take away the internet for a while or something so they dont go doing it again. But yeah. Grey...
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Zeus
10/22/20 11:42:28 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
^ I guess

but then I would always default to youre the adult lol

except when a mf lies about age, I suppose like you say every case is different. So yeah I would agree, greyish in general but not totally Frey

The problem with the concept as a whole (which extends beyond AoC) is the arbitrary definition of adulthood. Emotional, intellectual, and physical maturity doesn't happen at the same rates for everybody so somebody who's not in the right place doesn't magically change the day they go from 17 to 18. Meanwhile you have people at a far greater level of maturity than somebody in their 20s. I've known people who dropped out, started working, and covered all of their own expenses (the bare minimum for adulting) at 16 and I know plenty more people in their mid-20s who haven't met that barest minimum threshold.


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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:17:25 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
How lol
A 15 and a 18 year old. Hell even a 15 and 16 year old would be statutory rape technically(this is based on UK laws) and that gets even more grey as the age apart from each other isn't that much. I'm not getting that much into this as GameFAQs but I stand by what I said.

Zeus posted...
-snip-

Sex isn't exclusive to maturity sure and neither is becoming a adult. I still laugh at farts.

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:18:52 PM
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my wife and i generally choose not to be victims, so we havent really encountered this

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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:22:21 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
my wife and i generally choose not to be victims, so we havent really encountered this

It's a choice to be a victim of sexual assault?

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:28:35 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
It's a choice to be a victim of sexual assault?

i didnt say that, and i would never say that.

i will however say it is very often a choice to put yourself in a position where you may become a victim of sexual assault.

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FatalAccident
10/22/20 2:32:04 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
will however say it is very often a choice to put yourself in a position where you may become a victim of sexual assault.
for example

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Zeus
10/22/20 2:36:01 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Sex isn't exclusive to maturity sure and neither is becoming a adult. I still laugh at farts.


Zeus posted...
(which extends beyond AoC)


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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:36:21 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
I will however say it is very often a choice to put yourself in a position where you may become a victim of sexual assault.
So where is sexual assault immune from?
Edit: Still sounds like you're victim blaming.

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:38:38 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
for example

to name a few

choosing not carrying tools for self defense
choosing not seeking training for self defense.
frequenting high risk areas, alone, without taking the proper precautions
spending time alone with people who have a history of sexual assault

and i know, i know, i am definitely a victim blamer, right?

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IronBornCorps
10/22/20 2:39:26 PM
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Sounds exactly like victim blaming.

*Edit*
You are aware that you can take all the right precautions and be in a low risk area, and still be assaulted right?

As mentioned in this topic before, many are from people they knew and trusted.

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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:42:51 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
and i know, i know, i am definitely a victim blamer, right?

Yeah. Your saying been sexually assaulted is on the victim for putting themselves in that position. They could do all the things you listed or none at all that doesn't mean sexual assult won't happen and it certainly isn't a invite for it to happen too. You and your wives "choice" is a bizarre comment.

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lockquote> I recommend reading up on the criminology of rapists to better gain a grasp.
I have no desire to learn the mind of a rapist. I'm not a "help everyone" type of guy.

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JigsawTDC
10/22/20 2:44:54 PM
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Kotenks posted...
You'd think they'd all be the sexually starved unwanted person who finally snapped and forced themselves on someone.

As a sexually starved unwanted person, I have never sexually assaulted or thought about sexually assaulting someone, so no, I wouldn't assume that.

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:47:02 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
So where is sexual assault immune from?
Edit: Still sounds like you're victim blaming.

you edited this post, and still didnt notice that the question has nonsense phrasing.

and yeah, it really doesnt bother me to be categorized as a victim blamer. the term means absolutely nothing to me.

a lot of self defense courses for survivors of sexual assault begin with the teacher asking "was there anything you could have done to prevent this from happening" and the people who answer no are informed that unfortunately they will get absolutely nothing out of the class with that mindset.

shitty people are out there, and we cannot feasibly find and stop them all. the fact that what they are doing is illegal isnt going to stop them. the fact that they could do hard time isnt going to unrape their victims.

no, you should not have to live your life around the risk of some asshole doing something shitty. regardless of that fact, that asshole is out there, and he is going to do something shitty.

think about it like this. you see a semi truck on the highway, and the driver is obviously drunk. they are repeatedly swerving into the lane where you are trying to pass. now, when he runs your ass off the road and kills you, do think it is going to be any consolation to your family that he was breaking the law and will do time in prison? do you think the fact that you had every right to pass him is going to make them feel better, or make you any less dead?
so instead, maybe just be cautious. tap the breaks, back off of him, and call the police before someone gets hurt.


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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:49:09 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
you edited this post, and still didnt notice that the question has nonsense phrasing.

No it's a legit question based on your post. You don't have a answer and that's understandable because sexual assault can happen anywhere at anytime no matter what. End of chat.

Noop_Noop posted...
and yeah, it really doesnt bother me to be categorized as a victim blamer. the term means absolutely nothing to me.

We know.

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IronBornCorps
10/22/20 2:49:56 PM
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Wow, what a shitty take that is...

*Edit* I am doubtful your wife shares this perspective.

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Zeus
10/22/20 2:51:38 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
So where is sexual assault immune from?
Edit: Still sounds like you're victim blaming.

It sounds like the kind of post that will result in a suspension, given the mods' stances on other issues (since they frown on even suggesting people lock their doors to avoid being robbed, which on literally any other site would be nontroversial).

Pretty sure it's taboo to even discuss things like safety tips because it implies that victims didn't do enough to stay safe. It's a subject that should be avoided altogether. In fact, I wouldn't even directly quote Noop's post to respond to it because of the heavy mod risk.

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FatalAccident
10/22/20 2:51:49 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
and i know, i know, i am definitely a victim blamer, right?
like yeah

obviously lol

its not a choice to be sexually assaulted. Thats the stupidest shit Ive ever heard. Whos to say ticking all those boxes doesnt result in you getting sexually assaulted anyway

what are you on about

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:52:25 PM
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it doesnt bother me that you feel that way homies.
your opinions mean very little to me.


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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:52:31 PM
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IronBornCorps posted...
Wow, what a shitty take that is...

*Edit* I am doubtful your wife shares this perspective.
Probably doesn't even have a wife.

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LinkPizza
10/22/20 2:53:22 PM
#38:


Noop_Noop posted...
and i know, i know, i am definitely a victim blamer, right?

Sure sounds like it...
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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:53:46 PM
#39:


FatalAccident posted...


its not a choice to be sexually assaulted. Thats the stupidest shit Ive ever heard. Whos to say ticking all those boxes doesnt result in you getting sexually assaulted anyway

what are you on about


Noop_Noop posted...
i didnt say that, and i would never say that.

i will however say it is very often a choice to put yourself in a position where you may become a victim of sexual assault.


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MeteoricBurst
10/22/20 2:55:04 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
what are you on about

That guy seems to be going on like he's talking about robbers or gang members. A large chunk of sexual assaults are committed by people the victim is close to: family members, family friends, workmates etc. Not strangers.


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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:57:10 PM
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IronBornCorps posted...
Wow, what a shitty take that is...

*Edit* I am doubtful your wife shares this perspective.

my wife has been carrying around a pair of blast knuckles since she was 14 precisely because she shares this perspective. you see, we have been together for a long time and formed a strong relationship based on shared beliefs and values.

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FatalAccident
10/22/20 2:57:34 PM
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Youre literally arguing semantics, and not doing yourself any favours by not even looking at how thatd be victim blaming

I think youre wrong dude

but I dont think you care so it is what it is

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wwinterj25
10/22/20 2:57:36 PM
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Zeus posted...
It's a subject that should be avoided altogether.

Maybe here. However raising awareness if handled well is a plus.

Noop_Noop posted...
my wife has been carrying around a pair of blast knuckles
Not a guarantee to stop these things from happening.


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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 2:59:42 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
A large chunk


IronBornCorps posted...
many are from people they knew and trusted.

those are some good stats. ill have to remember to put them on my next pie graph.

5%, 10%, a large chunk, 50%, many

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 3:01:15 PM
#45:


wwinterj25 posted...


Not a guarantee to stop these things from happening.

certainly not, which is why she takes other precautions as well. of course nothing is going to be a guarantee, but i find it harder to bitch about the bad things that happen to me when i could have done things to prevent them.

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wwinterj25
10/22/20 3:01:37 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
That guy seems to be going on like he's talking about robbers or gang members. A large chunk of sexual assaults are committed by people the victim is close to: family members, family friends, workmates etc. Not strangers.

Yeah. Probably best to ignore him at this point.

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MeteoricBurst
10/22/20 3:02:31 PM
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No amount of self defense training is going to prepare you for the overwhelming shock/confusion of being assaulted by your father/uncle/husband/boss/friend/influential community member etc. These are not random thugs. Not to mention the target might be underage and not have developed any skills yet to protect themself. Combined that with a huge physical disadvantage and you're in trouble. Brass knuckles ain't doing shite. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 3:02:40 PM
#48:


wwinterj25 posted...
Yeah. Probably best to ignore him at this point.

so i win.

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FatalAccident
10/22/20 3:03:14 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
so i win.
lmao

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Noop_Noop
10/22/20 3:04:43 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
No amount of self defense training is going to prepare you for the overwhelming shock/confusion of being assaulted by your father/uncle/husband/boss/friend/influential community member etc. These are not random thugs. Not to mention the target might be underage and not have developed any skills yet to protect themself. Combined that with a huge physical disadvantage and you're in trouble. Brass knuckles ain't doing shite. You don't know what you're talking about.


brass knuckles? who is talking about brass knuckles? i am talking about a couple of large, fist mounted tasers.

YOU dont know what youre talking about


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