Current Events > I'm a conspiracy theorist, AMA

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whatever is the most interesting thing you'd like to ask

please stop being a conspiracy theorist, thanks

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berlyman101 posted...

please stop being a conspiracy theorist, thanks

thank you for your question

Are you?
Are you sure?

Checkmate.

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Delta_Force posted...

Are you?
Are you sure?

Checkmate.

I am.
I have theories.

what kind of theories?

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Who killed JFK?

Whens the last time you read a whole book, and what was it?

TheMikh posted...

what kind of theories?

That there is one supreme secret society that has controlled events throughout history. Different people call them different things but their religion is called "the Mysteries".

Zikten posted...

Who killed JFK?

I haven't looked into the whole thing whether it was the shooter up high or the driver or whatever. But I do believe this same conspiracy was responsible.

JimmyFraska posted...

That there is one supreme secret society that has controlled events throughout history. Different people call them different things but their religion is called "the Mysteries".

How are they secret if you can talk about them?

Do they have relation to Greek mystery cults?

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Naysaspace posted...

Whens the last time you read a whole book, and what was it?

A book called "Born in Blood" by John Robison. It's about some of these subjects, although that writer is in support of the conspiracy, not against it like me.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

How are they secret if you can talk about them?

Do they have relation to Greek mystery cults?

I guess that term is becoming dated, but this information wasn't widely public until about the 19th century. I believe it's more in reference to the fact that these societies have certain rites and initiations, and a secret message contained therein.

Freemasonry says "We are not a secret society, but a society with secrets." so perhaps that is more appropriate. Regardless, I use the term.

They make claim that they are directly related to the Greek mystery cults.

Moon landing?

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Moon landing?

I cannot say whether it was real or fake. I believe we have likely been to the moon. But what I can say is this:

I believe the grander purpose of the society of Freemasonry, is in service of this conspiracy. Not necessarily individuals in it (white Americans all have grandpas or uncles in it), but it as an institution and spiritual system being hundreds of years old (or older).

Everyone knows that our American astronauts brought an American flag to that moon. A story we don't hear as often, is that there was another flag brought to the moon on that same famous trip ("One small step for man"). Almost all of the most famous astronauts were also Masons, and at request, Buzz Aldrin brought this up as well:



The flag of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.

Which is to say, this conspiracy made their claim on the moon very early on.

how deep is the deep state

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Freddie_Mercury posted...

how deep is the deep state

I think people use that as another term for this conspiracy, when they haven't researched it otherwise. One that the conspiracy actually came up with is "the Invisible Government" which I think is quite cool and stylish of them. Much better than "deep state"

Good lord. TC's evolution is moving quickly. From "I'm not a conspiracy theorist really but these books are interesting" to this topic in a few days. All conspiracy theories lead back to anti-Semitism eventually. I'm sure he'll be posting full qanon bullshit in a week or two.

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JimmyFraska posted...

I think people use that as another term for this conspiracy, when they haven't researched it otherwise. One that the conspiracy actually came up with is "the Invisible Government" which I think is quite cool and stylish of them. Much better than "deep state"

is that in feet or

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/23/three-reasons-conspiracy-theories-are-more-dangerous-than-ever/
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2019/10/why-conspiracy-theories-are-deeply-dangerous

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But isn't that exactly what they WANT you to think?

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Phynaster posted...

Good lord. TC's evolution is moving quickly. From "I'm not a conspiracy theorist really but these books are interesting" to this topic in a few days. All conspiracy theories lead back to anti-Semitism eventually. I'm sure he'll be posting full qanon bullshit in a week or two.

I never once in that topic said, "I am not a conspiracy theorist." The topic about my antique books I thought made it pretty clear that I am. I just wasn't trying to convince anyone in that topic. Nor am I here, just answering questions to anyone interested in my point of view.

I can find zero evidence of Jewish society being a part of this conspiracy. What I have found instead is many examples of them being scapegoated, which has happened all throughout history.

I fully believe the QAnon movement is evil and a branch of this conspiracy I speak of. I could go further into that.

Feel free to just post what you think I believe, but that's not what the topic is for. You're not asking anything that would prove me wrong, or addressing anything I say directly at all in any sense. So by that, you just look like an asshole who really doesn't have anything to say.

JimmyFraska posted...

That there is one supreme secret society that has controlled events throughout history. Different people call them different things but their religion is called "the Mysteries".

What evidence are you basing this belief on? Also, how does a society influence major world events for so long while simultaneously remaining secret?

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Eliza3 posted...

But isn't that exactly what they WANT you to think?

Why would they want it? Either way, I can't control that. It often seems that all sides of the spectrum play a useful part in this, whether they want to or not.

Any theories around our beloved GameFAQ?

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Do you believe that the wealthy have access to video games that can only be played on supercomputers?

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Mike_Stanton posted...

What evidence are you basing this belief on? Also, how does a society influence major world events for so long while simultaneously remaining secret?

I have learned most of this information from reading books from the 19th century or earlier by authors who proclaimed a belief in this system of spirituality. I then also read books from the opposing side, anti-occultists who wrote exposs during the 18th and 19th centuries on these groups.

The "secret" part more refers to their rites and initiations they require their members to go through. And from what they say, hidden in these rites and rituals is the hidden message of "the Mysteries".

If these societies were once secret, they are no longer. They founded the United States and still run it. Most of the information on this subject started to come out to the public at large during the 19th century.

I read a book about a dude who found a magic ring in a cave on his way to steal from a dragon. Guess that's true too. After all, if it's in a book it's unimpeachable.

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samurai bandit posted...

Any theories around our beloved GameFAQ?

Sadly no lol.
ForsakenHermit posted...

Do you believe that the wealthy have access to video games that can only be played on supercomputers?

I know brain interfacing is being pushed heavily right now, and is said to be much further along than the general public knows. Gabe Newell says it will surpass all other forms of entertainment and art. But beyond that, change all of society as we know it forever.

Phynaster posted...

I read a book about a dude who found a magic ring in a cave on his way to steal from a dragon. Guess that's true too. After all, if it's in a book it's unimpeachable.

Tolkien was definitely very well read in this same material, of that secret undercurrent in religion. Whether he was a full on intiate or not, I don't know, but I suspect he believed what they do to a large extent.

Im firmly of the belief, and ive yet to see anything to prove me wrong, that conspiracy theorism results from a boring and unfulfilling life. Untraveled, unfulfilled people feel a need to concoct grandiose narratives to make life seem more mysterious or exciting than theirs is.

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Phynaster posted...

Im firmly of the belief, and ive yet to see anything to prove me wrong, that conspiracy theorism results from a boring and unfulfilling life. Untraveled, unfulfilled people feel a need to concoct grandiose narratives to make life seem more mysterious or exciting than theirs is.

@Phynaster Thank you for at least commenting something real.

I've been to many countries. I've acted and spoken to audiences of hundreds, by myself. Just tonight I was editing a film project I was shooting earlier in the week (just a stupid funny little video, nothing serious, but a lot of fun, got to work with actors). I have a beautiful girlfriend who tells me she loves me. I'll be getting married before too long. I really love my life right now. Not everything, but most of it is amazing.

But, I have had many traumas in life. I went through bad stuff as a child, which caused me to act out later on in certain ways, and put myself deeper in the hole. I got to the point where I wasn't just dealing with the trauma others inflicted, but what I inflicted on myself.

I am self aware enough to know that this is what likely started my fascination in my teens and now with these subjects.

Us conspiracy theorists ask a question "What is wrong with the world?" But, most of us don't ask ourselves why we had to ask that question. And the truth is this: We want to know what is wrong with the world, because we want to know what is wrong with ourselves.

So I'd say, you are onto something with this statement here, but you haven't quite nailed it, because you aren't trying to actually understand these people. But I welcome and encourage you to do so.

I know it's because subconsciously I was asking that question "What is wrong with me?". I am still trying to understand it. I go to therapy to get help with that. I still love my life.

But just because I can acknowledge that, doesn't magically make the information go away. Now I have to be self aware, but also acknowledge that there is something going on I can't deny. And with the truth, it often lies in a middle ground we don't want to acknowledge. Not just one side or the other, fully right or fully wrong

I do believe there are conspiracies but that they're a lot more boring than the usual spouted theories. a lot of them are operating in plain site with easily traceable coded language. the horror is not in the mystery but the fact that ee can't do anything about it. and it's more driven by favors and fear of loss of wealth and status than explicit rituals or blackmailing.

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berlyman101 posted...

I do believe there are conspiracies but that they're a lot more boring than the usual spouted theories. a lot of them are operating in plain site with easily traceable coded language. the horror is not in the mystery but the fact that ee can't do anything about it. and it's more driven by favors and fear of loss of wealth and status than explicit rituals or blackmailing.

Thank you as well for actually coming back with something I can respond to:

I could probably roll with this, but say also, that things are likely both more boring and interesting than we understand. As I told Phynaster, the truth usually lies in a strange middleground.

I do like what you wrote there "the horror is not in the mystery but the fact that ee can't do anything about it." That is precisely correct. The details of what this conspiracy has done are interesting and fun to talk about, but right now it is basically at a point of no return. I accept the fact that this evil is in charge, and most people don't care.

I accept that I am a hypocrite who lives in their world and takes advantage of that. I watch their movies, eat their processed food, so on and so forth. Because it's comfortable. Sometimes, on certain issues, I make a stand. But not on everything, and for that I am a hypocrite.

Just like everyone else.

JimmyFraska posted...

Us conspiracy theorists ask a question "What is wrong with the world?" But, most of us don't ask ourselves why we had to ask that question. And the truth is this: We want to know what is wrong with the world, because we want to know what is wrong with ourselves.

There is a lot wrong with the world. But when you say, for example, "both political sides are the same, Trump is no more a fascist than Biden is" and pretend to hold some enlightened middle ground whilst clinging to fantastical conspiracies to explain real problems, that's an issue.

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Phynaster posted...

There is a lot wrong with the world. But when you say, for example, "both political sides are the same, Trump is no more a fascist than Biden is" and pretend to hold some enlightened middle ground whilst clinging to fantastical conspiracies to explain real problems, that's an issue.

But I never said that.

Has a conspiracy theory ever turned out to be true?

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BobanMarjanovic posted...

Has a conspiracy theory ever turned out to be true?

Yes. If you get a few seconds you can look up the Gulf of Tonkin. Lyndon Johnson faked an entire naval battle to get us into Vietnam. It simply never even happened.

What are your top 5 conspiracy theories?
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...

What are your top 5 conspiracy theories?

Idk. My focus is on what I could refer to as "the Grand Conspiracy". Which is to say, most everything I've mentioned in this topic I believed to be linked to an overarching conspiracy that orchestrated these events. But among that, the ones that interest me most are:

1. The Internet Hate Machine/the Internet Hivemind
2. Freemasonry and the Founding of the US in the New World
3. The Nation of Islam and Assassination of Malcolm X
4. The Destruction of the Knights Templar and their Secret Revenge
5. What I could call the Culture Conspiracy. Just instances where I see them imbue their symbolism in our media.

JimmyFraska posted...

The Internet Hate Machine/the Internet Hivemind

What about this is a conspiracy

JimmyFraska posted...

What I could call the Culture Conspiracy. Just instances where I see them imbue their symbolism in our media.

lmao

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Whats your opinions on 9/11?

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The Mysteries is a really dumb name.

Can jet fuel melt steel beams?

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Phynaster posted...

What about this is a conspiracy

The purpose of the internet is to build a hivemind structure on earth that connects all humans. One that reads our thoughts and utilizes our collective brain power. This is evil if you believe free will is good. It is a conspiracy because this purpose is hidden behind an illusion of capitalist companies just "coming up with different ideas" for different parts of computer technology.

JimmyFraska posted...

The purpose of the internet is to build a hivemind structure on earth that connects all humans. One that reads our thoughts and utilizes our collective brain power. This is evil if you believe free will is good. It is a conspiracy because this purpose is hidden behind an illusion of capitalist companies just "coming up with different ideas" for different parts of computer technology.

TC you stole this from Evangelion


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Is it frustrating seeing likes everywhere?

How often do you question your own beliefs?

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AlisLandale posted...

TC you stole this from Evangelion

Evangelion stole this from the Mystery Schools lol. Evangelion, part symbolically and part literally, is displaying the plan of this conspiracy. Not saying Ano was in on it or anything, he probably just read the same books I have. Though despite not being a part of the conspiracy, I suspect he may be in support of it.

That show compared to almost any other property is filled completely to the brim with occult/mystery school symbolism. I watched it last year and loved it.

AlisLandale posted...

TC you stole this from Evangelion

Which Eva stole from the book Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke IIRC

Man, I really fucking did not get Evangelion at all when I watched it apparently.

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coh posted...

Which Eva stole from the book Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke IIRC

Well, then you need to ask where Arthur Clarke got it from. Remember, Clarke and Kubrick wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey, which is perhaps the most seminal work of symbolism on behalf of this conspiracy in the 20th century. They were both in tight with Nasa (which I pointed out above is filled with Freemasons, ie Mystery Initiates). I suspect heavily they were both initiates of the Mystery Religion.

F1areaGaman posted...

Is it frustrating seeing likes everywhere?

How often do you question your own beliefs?

Not sure what that first one means, could you explain?

Often. From like, 18 to 23, my beliefs would change to the opposite literally every year. Things have stabilized, though I heavily question still.

nfearurspecimn posted...

Man, I really fucking did not get Evangelion at all when I watched it apparently.

to be fair, SEELEs goal of turning everyone into a single consciousness and becoming a god inside Eva 1 isnt really spelled out except in supplementary material >_>

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