Current Events > Finally filling in the paperwork to become a US citizen

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Its been over 3 years that Ive been eligible but just too lazy to bother. This shit is fucking long. Like ok 5 years of history and housing history is fine. But now its asking for every fucking trip that Ive taken outside the US for the last 5 years. Ive taken at least one trip to Montreal and one other country every year. They want specific dates. Just going over every email with travel info. What a pain. I hope theres not much more after.

You never felt the urge to apply despite everything you see going on in the news with the current administration?

Dear god why would you want to do that

DarthAragorn posted...

Dear god why would you want to do that

This america is a terrible place

what citizen are you now

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TheBabaYaga posted...

You never felt the urge to apply despite everything you see going on in the news with the current administration?

Im in California so that hasnt been a huge motivation for me

DarthAragorn posted...

Dear god why would you want to do that

I plan on staying here so might as well. I also plan on sponsoring my mother

Wow.

Imagine having that attitude when you already have the privilege of living here.

Millions of immigrants would literally kill to be in your position and you're treating it like it was some sort of Black Friday camp-out.

Its been over 3 years that Ive been eligible but just too lazy to bother. This shit is fucking long.

Just going over every email with travel info. What a pain

[Eyeroll]

Fuck off.

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Hahaha get rekt

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Damn_Underscore posted...

what citizen are you now

Canadian

Vicious_Dios posted...

Wow.

Imagine having that attitude when you already have the privilege of living here.

Millions of immigrants would literally kill to be in your position and you're treating it like it was some sort of Black Friday camp-out.

[Eyeroll]

Fuck off

Lol stfu Im from Canada, Im not foaming at the mouth to be a US citizen

Cleo_II posted...

Lol stfu Im from Canada, Im not foaming at the mouth to be a US citizen

Literally your words:
"Finally filling in the paperwork to become a US citizen"

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But, okay.


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You'd love applying for a security clearance then. They ask the same kind of stuff for up to 10 years among a bunch of other things. It's a pain in the ass, but at least these answers are relatively simple for me.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Literally your words:
"Finally filling in the paperwork to become a US citizen"

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But, okay.

After Ive been eligible for the last 3 years. Lol nice reading comprehension but not surprising coming from you. Mostly just doing it to sponsor my mom

Canada to US? Doesn't track properly.

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I'm sorry that sponsoring your own mother is suuuuuch a pain.

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Congrats!

Master_Bass posted...

You'd love applying for a security clearance then. They ask the same kind of stuff for up to 10 years among a bunch of other things. It's a pain in the ass, but at least these answers are relatively simple for me.

Ive heard those are terrible. Especially the ones where you need to pass a lie detector. I heard they ask very intimate questions

Yadoken posted...

Canada to US? Doesn't track properly.

I moved here 9 years ago after dating my husband long distance. Found work and got a TN visa. Then got married and got a green card. After 3 years of marriage youre eligible to apply for citizenship and weve been married over 6 years now lol

Beemo_Season11 posted...

Congrats!

Thanks!

literally had everything in Canada and moved here oh man

CADE FOSTER posted...

literally had everything in Canada and moved here oh man

Ive had it pretty cushy out here. But Ive been fortunate to land very well paying jobs with great benefits. Also fuck winter. The only thing Im sad about is missing out on a year of paid maternity leave. That stings.

Congratulations! :D

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VTBM posted...

Congratulations! :D

Thanks!

Welp after about 5 hours we completed the online form. But we need to gather a crap ton of documents to upload. Marriage certificate, tax history, insurance, bills, etc. My husband mostly has all those so hell be gathering them tomorrow to scan and upload. Very grateful hes taking point on all this. Otherwise Id just get an immigration lawyer, its so overwhelming. My husband would rather do it himself though and save the money.

As a Californian... I would gently suggest that you reconsider. Consider reconsidering.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Dear god why would you want to do that

This.
Also this is important to note:
https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-of-us-citizens/bringing-parents-to-live-in-the-united-states-as-permanent-residents

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As a US citizen, I'd rather give up my citizen and become Canadian. o_o;

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Frosted_Midna posted...

As a US citizen, I'd rather give up my citizen and become Canadian. o_o;

Then do it lmao, I dont know how many people said the same thing yet they didnt do shit about it :)

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Pkmas1702 posted...

Then do it lmao, I dont know how many people said the same thing yet they didnt do shit about it :)

Because its not that easy.

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Good luck and Godspeed! Also, will you be a dual citizen then?

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I mean this 100% sincerely and with all the kindness in my heart: just go back to Canada lol
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I would have moved out of California at least, if it was that simple for me to move. I was born here but I still can't bear the summer heat.

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Congratulations!

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Pkmas1702 posted...

Then do it lmao, I dont know how many people said the same thing yet they didnt do shit about it :)

Money is an issue and it also doesn't help they closed the borders from US citizens.

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Frosted_Midna posted...

As a US citizen, I'd rather give up my citizen and become Canadian. o_o;

I dont have to give up my Canadian citizenship though. No downside to getting US citizenship also. Flexibility is good

yunalenne10 posted...

Good luck and Godspeed! Also, will you be a dual citizen then?

Thanks! Yes thats the plan

Congrats.

Also never reply to Vicious legitimately. All he does is troll.
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Warm welcome from Washington State. Come visit us anytime.

The state I mean. We have lots of trees. And seasons too.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Wow.

Imagine having that attitude when you already have the privilege of living here.

Millions of immigrants would literally kill to be in your position and you're treating it like it was some sort of Black Friday camp-out.

[Eyeroll]

Fuck off.

As a DACA immigrant whose Green Card application got rejected and is having a real rough time during this administration, I appreciate your intent here but nah, shitting on the process is the moral thing to do.

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Im entirely jealous girl. My cousin moved from BC to join the US Airforce, ended up marrying a TA&M student, and now he lives in fucking paradise with his hot wife, while Im up here dealing with these miserable winters.

It isnt soon enough till I move to Arizona or New Mexico. Done with snow and rain.

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Lmao @ people who think living in america is actually bad

Y'all sheltered af

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Wow.

Imagine having that attitude when you already have the privilege of living here.

Millions of immigrants would literally kill to be in your position and you're treating it like it was some sort of Black Friday camp-out.

[Eyeroll]

Fuck off.

you sound mad she is becoming a citizen. Are you a trump man?

Keep copies of everything you submit just in case they lose it, happened with my wife. We submitted for the second green card renewal, got the notification that they were working on it, then... didn't hear anything for months. Went to look it up on the USCIS website and it couldn't pull up the records. Called them and they said "Oh yeah it's here and we have everything we need so we'll get right on it, you won't have to submit anything else!"... and then a month later we got another notification saying we needed to... basically submit everything else again.

Also it was awkward when my wife took her test and the agent was like "Congrats you passed! Can you fill out this questionnaire about why you're excited to be a US citizen now?" and we sat there in silence for like ten minutes because it was a weird question lol.

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Cleo_II posted...

Thanks! Yes thats the plan

Dual Citizenship will 100% kill any chance of you receiving any sort of clearance, FWIW if that's important for you for work. They're not going to give sensitive information to somebody who maintains citizenship/loyalty to another country as well.

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<a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79050983, 946075335, '85cc7ea0');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79050983/946075335">Caelthus posted... </a>

Dual Citizenship will 100% kill any chance of you receiving any sort of clearance, FWIW if that's important for you for work. They're not going to give sensitive information to somebody who maintains citizenship/loyalty to another country as well.

are we talking canadian or US?

She already can't get US clerarance if she's foreign (canadian). At least she can get federal jobs as a citizen.

Wasn't there a super low clearance dual nationals could get?

TheBabaYaga posted...

<a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79050983, 946075335, '85cc7ea0');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79050983/946075335">Caelthus posted... </a>

Dual Citizenship will 100% kill any chance of you receiving any sort of clearance, FWIW if that's important for you for work. They're not going to give sensitive information to somebody who maintains citizenship/loyalty to another country as well.

are we talking canadian or US?

She already can't get US clerarance if she's foreign (canadian). At least she can get federal jobs as a citizen.

Wasn't there a super low clearance dual nationals could get?

? Once she became a citizen, why wouldn't she be able to get a clearance
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emblem boy posted...

? Once she became a citizen, why wouldn't she be able to get a clearance

They technically can but it is a lot harder for them to do so. The reason is that while the person may be a naturalized citizen at that point, their parents/family members/friends are not by any means, which is where part of the security concerns come into play.

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emblem boy posted...

? Once she became a citizen, why wouldn't she be able to get a clearance

first she'd be a permanent resident, so no clearance.
then she becomes a citizen like you said but she's still canadian, so she'd be a dual.

IDK if dual cit preempts it at every level, but caelthus says so. If that is the case, yeah, she still wouldn't get it, unless she renounced her canadian one.

Has Cleo talked about that in the past? Weird tangent to go off on otherwise lol. For public trust clearances it doesn't really make a difference. For federally vetted security clearances it will make a difference, the person has to formally renounce the Canadian citizenship (just saying "Yes I swear allegiance to the US" at the naturalization ceremony isn't enough).

I would think a more... pressing / relevant issue would be that of taxes. Maybe the US is weird, but US citizens living and working abroad are still technically required to file tax returns and pay some amount of money on their foreign income. So that would be a thing to research, if Canada has similar laws. Though you should have been doing that already theoretically lol.

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Caelthus posted...

They technically can but it is a lot harder for them to do so. The reason is that while the person may be a naturalized citizen at that point, their parents/family members/friends are not by any means, which is where part of the security concerns come into play.

Also wth are you even talking about if she's from Canada no one gives a shit.

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I'm going through the process to get a security clearance right now to work for a defense company.
I was born in Nigeria but became a citizen when I was like 9.

I doubt I'd have gone this far ahead if there was a chance I wouldn't get it due to that.

Funnily enough, I just heard that my approval for an interim clearance was denied, so I'm having to wait longer to get the whole thing approved
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Hexenherz posted...

Also wth are you even talking about if she's from Canada no one gives a shit.

Somebody brought up clearances earlier, so it seemed relevant, I'm not sure what the issue here is.

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