Current Events > I think looting is a legitimate form of protest

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Wasssup Now 10/17/20 4:58:40 PM #51:	Colorahdo posted... Fighting against a system that values goods over people, you destroy and steal those goods Those in power don't give a shit if you peacefully walk through the streets yelling imo Theft is a crime because it hurts people. Those individuals looting are actually the ones that value goods over people. <cite>Wasssup Now posted [p:945970754] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Colorahdo posted... </cite> <quote>Fighting against a system that values goods over people, you destroy and steal those goods Those in power don't give a shit if you peacefully walk through the streets yelling imo</quote> Theft is a crime because it hurts people. Those individuals looting are actually the ones that value goods over people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 10/17/20 5:02:27 PM #53:	It could be legit if we lived in a country where most adults actually voted. But even accounting for redlining and voter suppression most still don't vote. You can't complain about the system when you don't participate in the system. Nobody in power should care about you if you don't vote. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:945970862] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>It could be legit if we lived in a country where most adults actually voted. But even accounting for redlining and voter suppression most still don't vote. You can't complain about the system when you don't participate in the system. Nobody in power should care about you if you don't vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 10/17/20 5:07:53 PM #54:	Its weird to me that people associate looting with protests. in that, these recent reactions to certain events have been very decentralized and unorganized, yet people are like, yeah i think police brutality is bad; but a couple of people drove a forklift into a Best Buy! They burned down a Wendys! most of the protests, once they find management, become far more peaceful and less destructive than the initial riots that take place in immediate reaction to something. contrast this to the other side where were suddenly supposed to empathize with good people struggling with a few bad apples when its the opposite. The more involved police unions and organizations get, the more the bad apples are protected. >_> --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:945971034] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Its weird to me that people associate looting with protests. in that, these recent reactions to certain events have been very decentralized and unorganized, yet people are like, yeah i think police brutality is bad; but a couple of people drove a forklift into a Best Buy! They burned down a Wendys! most of the protests, once they find management, become far more peaceful and less destructive than the initial riots that take place in immediate reaction to something. contrast this to the other side where were suddenly supposed to empathize with good people struggling with a few bad apples when its the opposite. The more involved police unions and organizations get, the more the bad apples are protected. >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 5:27:48 PM #55:	What about trump supporters who are going to be very upset with the system when trump loses? Is it legitimate when they start burning down random buildings? Or targeting buildings that represent the institutions they feel have wronged them? --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945971655] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>What about trump supporters who are going to be very upset with the system when trump loses? Is it legitimate when they start burning down random buildings? Or targeting buildings that represent the institutions they feel have wronged them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/17/20 5:42:48 PM #56:	No justice, no peace. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945972070] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>No justice, no peace. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 6:03:09 PM #57:	g980 posted... What about trump supporters who are going to be very upset with the system when trump loses? Trump supporters are either delusional about the way that the world works, or they know that they're full of shit and their protests are illegitimate. --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945972733] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>What about trump supporters who are going to be very upset with the system when trump loses?</quote>Trump supporters are either delusional about the way that the world works, or they know that they're full of shit and their protests are illegitimate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:04:55 PM #58:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Trump supporters are either delusional about the way that the world works, or they know that they're full of shit and their protests are illegitimate. But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945972789] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> Trump supporters are either delusional about the way that the world works, or they know that they're full of shit and their protests are illegitimate. </quote> But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 6:09:17 PM #59:	g980 posted... But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945972934] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest</quote>I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 10/17/20 6:10:25 PM #60:	I agree, im omw to your house rn --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:945972980] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>I agree, im omw to your house rn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/17/20 6:11:28 PM #61:	Lordgold666 posted... I agree, im omw to your house rn Me too, looting party at TC's house! --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:945973012] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Lordgold666 posted... </cite> <quote>I agree, im omw to your house rn</quote> Me too, looting party at TC's house! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:11:31 PM #62:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. They have to be separated, or else free speech and the right to protest isnt free, its just whatever the most violent group decides is acceptable --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945973013] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. </quote> They have to be separated, or else free speech and the right to protest isnt free, its just whatever the most violent group decides is acceptable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/17/20 6:11:37 PM #63:	g980 posted... But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest the means of protest is not what makes protests legitimate or illegitimate though --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:945973014] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>But we arent talking about the validity of the message behind the protest, we are talking about the validity of the means of protest</quote>the means of protest is not what makes protests legitimate or illegitimate though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zammox 10/17/20 6:12:32 PM #65:	looting is admitting that you don't care about the cause but wish you were higher up the ladder in capitalism --- aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <cite>zammox posted [p:945973044] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>looting is admitting that you don't care about the cause but wish you were higher up the ladder in capitalism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:16:42 PM #66:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. Lets break this down another way: someone commits murder in the name of a legitimate cause (BLM) BLM would still be a valid cause, but that form of protest would be invalid --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945973172] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think the two can be separated, so no, I don't think Trump supporters' protests are legitimate. Fuck them. </quote> Lets break this down another way: someone commits murder in the name of a legitimate cause (BLM) BLM would still be a valid cause, but that form of protest would be invalid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:18:28 PM #67:	averagejoel posted... the means of protest is not what makes protests legitimate or illegitimate though It doesnt make the underlying cause/message legitimate or illegitimate, agreed. Nazis handing out flowers would still have an illegitimate cause, but the means of protest would be okay. --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945973231] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> the means of protest is not what makes protests legitimate or illegitimate though </quote> It doesnt make the underlying cause/message legitimate or illegitimate, agreed. Nazis handing out flowers would still have an illegitimate cause, but the means of protest would be okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 6:18:51 PM #68:	g980 posted... They have to be separated, or else free speech and the right to protest isnt free, its just whatever the most violent group decides is acceptable Yes, they are not separated. Free speech and the right to protest isn't free, its just whatever the most violent group (the US government) has decided is acceptable. --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945973248] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>They have to be separated, or else free speech and the right to protest isnt free, its just whatever the most violent group decides is acceptable</quote>Yes, they are not separated. Free speech and the right to protest isn't free, its just whatever the most violent group (the US government) has decided is acceptable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:19:37 PM #69:	idk it just feels like so much work to try to convince people that breaking the shit of innocent bystanders is wrong. How is that not just axiomatic for you --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945973267] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>idk it just feels like so much work to try to convince people that breaking the shit of innocent bystanders is wrong. How is that not just axiomatic for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProudlyHated87 10/17/20 6:23:50 PM #70:	Looting isnt a legitimate form of protest. /endtopic --- GT: Astral Ocean V <cite>ProudlyHated87 posted [p:945973387] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Looting isnt a legitimate form of protest. /endtopic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 6:24:29 PM #71:	g980 posted... idk it just feels like so much work to try to convince people that breaking the shit of innocent bystanders is wrong. How is that not just axiomatic for you "Wrong" doesn't mean "not legitimate protest". --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945973404] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>idk it just feels like so much work to try to convince people that breaking the shit of innocent bystanders is wrong. How is that not just axiomatic for you</quote>"Wrong" doesn't mean "not legitimate protest". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 10/17/20 6:24:52 PM #72:	just dont complain if ya get shot. <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:945973418] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>just dont complain if ya get shot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 10/17/20 6:28:55 PM #73:	Gonna be hard to convict burglars. "I wasn't robbing their house I was just looting to protest Trump." --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:945973531] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Gonna be hard to convict burglars. "I wasn't robbing their house I was just looting to protest Trump." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 6:30:16 PM #74:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... "Wrong" doesn't mean "not legitimate protest". Can you expand on that? Why should something wrong be socially acceptable? Maybe it would help if you define "legitimate" in this context and i define "wrong" By "wrong" in this context, i mean something that is directly in opposition of a just society --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945973570] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> "Wrong" doesn't mean "not legitimate protest". </quote> Can you expand on that? Why should something wrong be socially acceptable? Maybe it would help if you define "legitimate" in this context and i define "wrong" By "wrong" in this context, i mean something that is directly in opposition of a just society</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 7:04:45 PM #75:	g980 posted... Can you expand on that? Why should something wrong be socially acceptable? Legitimacy has nothing to do with social acceptance. Anyway, I'm only using the term in the sense that the action being taken is truthful or genuine. I would never use the other definitions of the word because they don't really matter to me, since they are concerned with social acceptance, and its also completely absurd to harp on about whether or not protesting against society is acceptable to society. --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945974780] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>Can you expand on that? Why should something wrong be socially acceptable?</quote>Legitimacy has nothing to do with social acceptance. Anyway, I'm only using the term in the sense that the action being taken is truthful or genuine. I would never use the other definitions of the word because they don't really matter to me, since they are concerned with social acceptance, and its also completely absurd to harp on about whether or not protesting against society is acceptable to society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 7:12:00 PM #76:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Legitimacy has nothing to do with social acceptance. Anyway, I'm only using the term in the sense that the action being taken is truthful or genuine. I would never use the other definitions of the word because they don't really matter to me, since they are concerned with social acceptance, and its also completely absurd to harp on about whether or not protesting against society is acceptable to society. How about being in opposition to a just society? (Wherein innocents arent punished for the actions of others) --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945975004] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> Legitimacy has nothing to do with social acceptance. Anyway, I'm only using the term in the sense that the action being taken is truthful or genuine. I would never use the other definitions of the word because they don't really matter to me, since they are concerned with social acceptance, and its also completely absurd to harp on about whether or not protesting against society is acceptable to society. </quote> How about being in opposition to a just society? (Wherein innocents arent punished for the actions of others)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 10/17/20 7:12:27 PM #77:	am i allowed to protest this topic by taking your stuff? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:945975020] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>am i allowed to protest this topic by taking your stuff? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 7:16:35 PM #78:	g980 posted... How about being in opposition to a just society? (Wherein innocents arent punished for the actions of others) That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945975140] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>How about being in opposition to a just society? (Wherein innocents arent punished for the actions of others)</quote>That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 10/17/20 7:23:16 PM #79:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. i know, i am hoping you'll address it --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:945975342] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. </quote> i know, i am hoping you'll address it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/17/20 8:16:51 PM #80:	g980 posted... i know, i am hoping you'll address it Not interested. We don't live in a just society, so its irrelevant, --- damn I thought I was just making a diarrhea joke I didn't think it would get dark <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:945977010] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>i know, i am hoping you'll address it</quote>Not interested. We don't live in a just society, so its irrelevant, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/17/20 8:17:23 PM #81:	You think wrong --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:945977025] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>You think wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornswoggled 10/17/20 9:01:11 PM #82:	Setting fire to and stealing from private businesses feels like imposing your will on others. I'm not down with that. <cite>Hornswoggled posted [p:945978380] in I think lo... [t:79046120]...</cite> <quote>Setting fire to and stealing from private businesses feels like imposing your will on others. I'm not down with that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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