Poll of the Day > Trump does condemn white supremacists in debate when asked.

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Wanded
10/01/20 12:59:39 AM
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and not in debate when not asked on his own accord, several times

https://streamable.com/sr9o2s

watching this video and then reading the comments from the potd liberals brigade on the other topic is hilarious lol

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likehelly
10/01/20 1:04:55 AM
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proud boys, stand by.

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DevilSummoner1
10/01/20 1:06:54 AM
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likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.


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Metalsonic66
10/01/20 1:13:53 AM
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I don't know David Duke

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BlackScythe0
10/01/20 1:14:11 AM
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likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.

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TheSlinja
10/01/20 1:14:26 AM
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likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.


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Phantom_Nook
10/01/20 1:16:10 AM
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likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.

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Wanded
10/01/20 1:26:15 AM
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/NPC_wojak_meme.png

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Wanded
10/01/20 7:44:53 PM
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https://youtu.be/FTEbSoe1KFo?t=252

This is important

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Zareth
10/01/20 8:37:33 PM
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likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.


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Soup_or_Science
10/01/20 8:39:27 PM
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proud boys did nothing wrong
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Clench281
10/01/20 8:40:48 PM
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Wanded posted...
https://youtu.be/FTEbSoe1KFo?t=252

This is important

Why is this exchange, which was broadcast on every major news network when it happened and then had since been the major focus online, shared via transcript, audio clip, and video clip, not shared? IT'S A CONSPIRACY

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coinstarcad
10/01/20 9:01:11 PM
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Who would expect him to?
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sodium-chloride
10/01/20 9:22:23 PM
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Wanded posted...
https://youtu.be/FTEbSoe1KFo?t=252

This is important

it's not really important considering it was 4 years ago.
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SunWuKung420
10/01/20 9:31:38 PM
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I thought wanded didn't make political topics?

Also Trump is the secret head of the KKK according to the youtube videos I've researched.

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 9:38:22 PM
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sodium-chloride posted...
it's not really important considering it was 4 years ago.
It is though. The point is he's been asked dozens of times and has condemned it dozens of times. They just keep asking over and over until he finally fumbles his words (we all know he isn't the best speaker) and doesn't give them a robotic condemnation. Honestly, though, if he gave a rehearsed condemnation every time they'd probably spin that into him not being sincere about it or something

Why should he have to answer this question constantly but not biden? Why isn't biden asked this every other public appearance? Hot headed biden would lose his shit if he was repeatedly asked loaded questions like that and would probably ask if the reporter was on coke
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ClarkDuke
10/01/20 9:45:14 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I thought wanded didn't make political topics?

Also Trump is the secret head of the KKK according to the youtube videos I've researched.
i wonder if zeus met him during the charlottesville rally, ok?

likehelly posted...
proud boys, stand by.


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Wanded
10/01/20 10:50:59 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Also Trump is the secret head of the KKK according to the youtube videos I've researched.
it doesn't surprise me you believe those videos

also i'm waiting on your reply at the other topic where you lied about kyle rittenhouse and called him a murderer, i gave you sources that refute your claims but you disappeared

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Soup_or_Science
10/01/20 10:57:42 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I thought wanded didn't make political topics?

Also Trump is the secret head of the KKK according to the youtube videos I've researched.
Trump cannot even pronounce Ku Klux Klan correctly.

So I doubt it.

"klu klux" ugh jeez
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SunWuKung420
10/01/20 10:58:21 PM
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He thinks I actually watch any youtube videos besides music videos? ROFL!

When you give a 17 year old an assault rifle and he ends up killing people makes him and the person who gave him the gun murderers. He shouldn't have been there at all and he definitely shouldn't have been there armed.

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likehelly
10/01/20 11:01:08 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
It is though. The point is he's been asked dozens of times and has condemned it dozens of times. They just keep asking over and over until he finally fumbles his words (we all know he isn't the best speaker) and doesn't give them a robotic condemnation. Honestly, though, if he gave a rehearsed condemnation every time they'd probably spin that into him not being sincere about it or something

Why should he have to answer this question constantly but not biden? Why isn't biden asked this every other public appearance? Hot headed biden would lose his shit if he was repeatedly asked loaded questions like that and would probably ask if the reporter was on coke
p r o u d
b o y s
s t a n d
b y

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:04:07 PM
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likehelly posted...
p r o u d
b o y s
s t a n d
b y
You guys love your catch phrases

Also, proud boys arent white supremacist. Their leader is an afro-cuban named enrique tarrio lmao. Your gonna need some better material for your narrative
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 11:04:30 PM
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Wanded posted...
kyle rittenhouse and called him a murderer
By definition he is a murderer. He carried a loaded weapon and shot someone. If he didnt want to do that he wouldnt have held a loaded weapon and fired.

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likehelly
10/01/20 11:06:22 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
You guys love your catch phrases

Also, proud boys arent white supremacist. Their leader is an afro-cuban named enrique tarrio lmao. Your gonna need some better material for your narrative

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/proud-boys-0

Ideology: Primarily alt lite: Misogynistic, Islamophobic, transphobic and anti-immigration. Some members espouse white supremacist and anti-Semitic ideologies and/or engage with white supremacist groups.

huge oof for you bro

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Wanded
10/01/20 11:07:19 PM
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likehelly posted...
p r o u d
b o y s
s t a n d
b y
https://imgur.com/0ZKYGI8


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Wanded
10/01/20 11:11:17 PM
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likehelly posted...
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/proud-boys-0

huge oof for you bro
lol adl

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/764728163/the-ok-hand-gesture-is-now-listed-as-a-symbol-of-hate

The proud boys founder Gavin Mcinnes is also the co founder of VICE news, he quit the group and the one who took the reigns is a black cuban man (such white very supremacist) named Enrique Tarrio who said he is against racism and people of all races and creeds are welcome to join their group which indeed consists of many minorities as well

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/10/01/proud-boys-chairman-condemns-white-supremacists-says-trumps-message-of-stand-by-wasnt-call-to-action/

even leftist propaganda outlet CNN said the proud boys aren't a white supremacist group, they also did this

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/proud-boys-leader-latinos-for-trump/index.html

All of this said, they are indeed a violent group, their founding and purpose was to counter act the violence coming from left wing groups such as antifa so they're kind of a political fight club


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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:11:45 PM
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likehelly posted...
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/proud-boys-0

huge oof for you bro
Its almost like you have amnesia. Apparently you forgot when I completely dismantled this yesterday and you ran away with your tail between your legs only to pop up again right now acting like it didnt happen
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Wanded
10/01/20 11:14:24 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
By definition he is a murderer. He carried a loaded weapon and shot someone. If he didnt want to do that he wouldnt have held a loaded weapon and fired.

https://www.johntumeltylaw.com/blog/difference-between-murder-and-homicide/

the moe you kno

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 11:15:17 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Its almost like you have amnesia. Apparently you forgot when I completely dismantled this yesterday and you ran away with your tail between your legs only to pop up again right now acting like it didnt happen
Link us.

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Zareth
10/01/20 11:16:50 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
You guys love your catch phrases
Trump literally said that.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 11:16:59 PM
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Wanded posted...
https://www.johntumeltylaw.com/blog/difference-between-murder-and-homicide/

the moe you kno
The difference in definition was created to help people feel content with killing another human being. Maybe you shouldve gone to college.

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:18:02 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 11:19:12 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79006847?page=32
Page 32?? I dont think anyone here leaves the default forum settings that low per a page.

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:19:31 PM
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Zareth posted...
Trump literally said that.
No shit. My point is that they keep repeating it like some kind of hive mind thinking its a slam dunk for them. Thats what they always do. I prefer not to reduce my opinions down to hive mind slogans
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Wanded
10/01/20 11:20:08 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
He thinks I actually watch any youtube videos besides music videos? ROFL!
Well, you did say you like watching conspiracy videos about trump, like him being the leader of the kkk, 5 comments before this one, so...

i also didn't send you a video, i sent you an article, 2 in fact because some other potd liberal was being spoiled about it


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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:20:32 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Page 32?? I dont think anyone here leaves the default forum settings that low per a page.
I dont care enough to change my page settings but people say this every time like its some kinda gotcha. Back in the day I had it at 20 posts per page but I just don't really care. I kind of like not scrolling that much and I usually remember about where my posts are anyway
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Zareth
10/01/20 11:22:21 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I prefer not to reduce my opinions down to hive mind slogans
LOCK HER UP!

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Wanded
10/01/20 11:22:54 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
The difference in definition was created to help people feel content with killing another human being.
wait a second, hol upppp
according to your wack logic here you actually can't kill anyone without it being a murder, according to the standard you just laid out a woman killing someone who tries to rape her is a murderer

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:23:39 PM
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Zareth posted...
LOCK HER UP!
Thats not something I ever said but nice try
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 11:24:07 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I dont care enough to change my page settings but people say this every time like its some kinda gotcha. Back in the day I had it at 20 posts per page but I just don't really care. I kind of like not scrolling that much and I usually remember about where my posts are anyway
Its not a gotcha. Its making us do the work for you like expecting us to fact check your work. Dont be lazy. Its your claim not ours ffs.

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likehelly
10/01/20 11:24:39 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
No shit. My point is that they keep repeating it like some kind of hive mind thinking its a slam dunk for them. Thats what they always do. I prefer not to reduce my opinions down to hive mind slogans
translation: i am completely unable to talk it away or provide any other defense against this thing trump said on live television to millions of people, so the best course of action is to call it a hive mind talking point with no merit and see if that gaslights it away

protip: it wont, and everyone knows exactly what you're trying to do because it's so very cliche for people like you.

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:29:44 PM
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likehelly posted...
translation: i am completely unable to talk it away or provide any other defense against this thing trump said on live television to millions of people, so the best course of action is to call it a hive mind talking point with no merit and see if that gaslights it away

protip: it wont, and everyone knows exactly what you're trying to do because it's so very cliche for people like you.
I find it hard to believe you actually are this incapable of putting 2 and 2 together. I've dismantled this already. Proud boys arent white supremacists. On top of that (even though the first point alone completely decimates your entire argument), the first definition for stand by on google is to do literally nothing while bad things are happening lmao.

"Be present while something bad is happening but fail to take any action to stop it"

Dang ol huge oof for you my man

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Wanded
10/01/20 11:29:48 PM
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likehelly posted...
translation: i am completely unable to talk it away or provide any other defense against this thing trump said on live television to millions of people, so the best course of action is to call it a hive mind talking point with no merit and see if that gaslights it away

protip: it wont, and everyone knows exactly what you're trying to do because it's so very cliche for people like you.
why does it require defending, trump isn't a white supremacist, as he clearly said a bezillion times already

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likehelly
10/01/20 11:31:43 PM
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Wanded posted...
why does it require defending, trump isn't a white supremacist, as he clearly said a bezillion times already

then it's weird that he was unable to condemn them the other night

instead, not only did he not condemn them like every other person seems able to do, but he told a very extremist group of white supremacists to stand by.

that not only doesn't condemn them, but in fact acknowledges them as something he wants on his side.

so why, then, did he do that.

on live television.

that millions of people watched.


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Zareth
10/01/20 11:31:51 PM
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Wanded posted...
why does it require defending, trump isn't a white supremacist, as he clearly said a bezillion times already

Trump isn't racist. He wasn't sued TWICE by the Department of Justice for discrimination against African Americans. He didn't take out full page ads in all four New York City newspapers calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five, who were later found to be innocent, then years later continue to claim they were guilty despite a confession and DNA evidence to the contrary. Trump never said "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes" or "And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks". Trump didn't propose that the fourth season of The Apprentice would have a team of whites competing against a team of blacks. Trump didn't spend 5 years claiming that Obama wasn't a citizen and claiming Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent, only to turn around and claim it was Hillary's fault. Trump didn't say of Mexican immigrants, "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists." Trump didn't claim that "thousands and thousands" of Arab Americans were celebrating after the 9/11 attacks. Trump didn't say, "We've just seen many, many crimes getting worse all the time, and as Maine knowsa major destination for Somali refugeesright, am I right?". Trump totally didn't call Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" live on television during the 2020 Presidential debate.

I notice you didn't bother trying to refute this in the other topic. Hmmm?


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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:33:22 PM
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Wanded posted...
why does it require defending, trump isn't a white supremacist, as he clearly said a bezillion times already
Yeah but the 2nd bazillionth time he didnt condemn it in the perfect wording so he's now a white supremacist. Thems the rules
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papercup
10/01/20 11:35:09 PM
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Wanded posted...
why does it require defending, trump isn't a white supremacist, as he clearly said a bezillion times already

You do know that in the 90s he admitted to keep Mein Kampf in his bedroom, don't you? Also his ex-wife said he keeps a book of Hitler's speeches in his bedside table. But, sure, he's not a white supremacist. Keep telling yourself that.

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likehelly
10/01/20 11:35:28 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Yeah but the 2nd bazillionth time he didnt condemn it in the perfect wording so he's now a white supremacist. Thems the rules
it seems like, for someone who apparently condemns them every other time he is asked, then condemning them again when he's asked on live television should be a no-brainer automatic thing he should be able to do.

so why wasn't he able to this time? why did he instead do the opposite?

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Zareth
10/01/20 11:36:46 PM
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likehelly posted...
so why wasn't he able to this time?
Because more of his supporters were watching this time?

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OhhhJa
10/01/20 11:39:51 PM
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likehelly posted...
it seems like, for someone who apparently condemns them every other time he is asked, then condemning them again when he's asked on live television should be a no-brainer automatic thing he should be able to do.

so why wasn't he able to this time? why did he instead do the opposite?
The problem is that he's trying to bend to their will thinking it will satisfy them. He's going so far as to ask for specific groups to condemn because making a simple condemnation has been shown to not be good enough. But in doing that, he's fallen into the trap of saying too much
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