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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 2:41:15 AM #1: |
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/walking-dead-shambles-secret-lair-2020-09-28 Its latest Secret Lair is a crossover with TWD using unique, black-bordered legendaries, available for a limited time and also legal in all Eternal formats. The idea of TV show advertisements being legal cards immediately pissed players off, so we'll have to see if things change in the next day or two. There are rumblings they might be banned in Commander soon as if they were silver-bordered cards; if so, perhaps other formats will follow. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 09/29/20 2:48:18 AM #3: |
this is the worst decision they've made in a long line of terrible decisions. honestly, probably second only to the overreaction that led to the reserve list itself.
even something as simple as the same treatment the Godzilla BaB card got would have been acceptable. then they'd be pre-prints with alternate fluff. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! fluffy-butt fluffy-butt oh fluffy fluffy fluffy fluffy-butt *pop* bum-bum-bum-bum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rioushu 09/29/20 2:58:10 AM #6: |
Well at least they fixed the format with that ban...
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sabin017 09/29/20 3:15:07 AM #7: |
I like to think that the attack/life points are logarithmic, that 4 power can beat a 3 tenfold.
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Bad_Mojo 09/29/20 3:16:21 AM #8: |
When will they hit Arena?
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radical rhino 09/29/20 3:22:53 AM #9: |
Im glad they realized that Negan should have a white mana cost.
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Pogo_Marimo 09/29/20 3:25:15 AM #10: |
sabin017 posted...
I like to think that the attack/life points are logarithmic, that 4 power can beat a 3 tenfold.what --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 09/29/20 4:01:43 AM #11: |
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 1:40:43 PM #12: |
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MJOLNRVII 09/29/20 1:43:11 PM #13: |
I already complained about it on the MtG board, so I just wanna mention that I hope the Commander RC caves into the complaints and bans them.
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Beveren_Rabbit 09/29/20 1:45:43 PM #14: |
They need to at least make it actual artwork rather than a screenshot from a promo. At least make the characters look more like MTG. Seeing modern real world stuff in a MTG legal card is unsettling.
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 1:51:57 PM #15: |
Yeah, Wizards has been so against any type of world that resembles reality and people using guns, etc., but then inject this into the game's bloodstream.
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 2:57:34 PM #17: |
I guess because Glenn's a good guy in the show.
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Rikiaz 09/29/20 2:58:33 PM #18: |
mrgoatthief posted...
This is a black blue or mono blue card, why is it white blue.Yeah wtf. Has Skulk ever even been on a white card? Shotgunnova posted... I guess because Glenn's a good guy in the show.Yeah but white isnt good and black isnt evil --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 3:47:27 PM #19: |
Rikiaz posted...
Yeah but white isnt good and black isnt evilIIRC, he was a moral compass character, so black wouldn't make much sense for him. The colors still end up working -- blue gets card draw on combat damage effects, white gets abilities that penalize creatures with high CMC/power/etc. It's a little weird to see skulk in white, but it's not pie-breaking weird (it reminds me of Mistmeadow Skulk slightly). If he'd been one of the first white creatures since Akroma to get haste or something, then it'd be pitchfork time. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 09/29/20 3:48:50 PM #20: |
I thought that stuff was promo reskins of existing cards? The Negan in particular is super cringe lol.
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Geisterdrache 09/29/20 3:52:32 PM #22: |
Doe posted...
I thought that stuff was promo reskins of existing cards? The Negan in particular is super cringe lol.That's what we were told Secret Lair was going to be. --- RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Marka_Ragnos_ 09/29/20 3:53:29 PM #23: |
I actually really want to use Negan as my Mardu aristrocrats commander instead of Queen Marchesa so I kind of hope it doesn't get banned. But this is a shit thing for Wotc to do. The only way they can fix this is to do what they did with the Ikora cards and guarantee another version will release in commander legends or something.
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Questionmarktarius 09/29/20 3:55:31 PM #24: |
How the hell does Negan actually work?
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_Marka_Ragnos_ 09/29/20 3:56:36 PM #25: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How the hell does Negan actually work? I play Negan I target an opponent Me and that opponent each choose a creature that opponent controls The opponent sacrifices those creatures Its a mind game, and gets around hexproof/indestructible. The opponent definitely loses one creature and may lose 2 if you win the mind game. --- My Home Theater: https://imgur.com/a/la41r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 3:57:38 PM #26: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How the hell does Negan actually work?The mind games angle is trying not to pick the same creature the opponent does, as it results in less death and treasure tokens. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rikiaz 09/29/20 3:57:52 PM #27: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How the hell does Negan actually work?It just means you and your opponent reveal simultaneously. Like announce when you both decide then count to 3 and point to it at the same time. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 09/29/20 3:58:08 PM #28: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How the hell does Negan actually work?Seems really convoluted. You choose an opponent, then you and they both choose one of their creatures "secretly" then remove them. So it's like a simultaneous decision game where at minimum 1 and at most 2 of their creatures are killed. The problem seems to be the "secret" part, seems really annoying to set up without metagame/cheating --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/29/20 3:58:21 PM #29: |
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Me and that opponent each choose a creature that opponent controlsHow? Like with a post-it note or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PatrickMahomes 09/29/20 3:59:10 PM #30: |
Seems like a weird thing to get angry about
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_Marka_Ragnos_ 09/29/20 3:59:32 PM #31: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How? The same way the rest of the cards work that have you secretely choose a permanent or player. Yes. This isn't the first card with that mechanic. --- My Home Theater: https://imgur.com/a/la41r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rikiaz 09/29/20 4:01:32 PM #32: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How?Yeah or with a die or number of fingers counting right to left or something similar. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MyMainAccount 09/29/20 4:47:20 PM #34: |
So you're telling me if I make a deck with those I'll be able to do well in an mtg tournament because a lot of my opponents will rage quit, giving me a win by default.
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Relient_K 09/29/20 5:02:29 PM #35: |
I'd totally want the Glenn card for my legendary humans deck but I don't want to support this practice and I feel weird playing cards that really should have been silver bordered like that transformers or mlp cards were. Or they needed official mtg names like the godzilla stuff.
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Dustin1280 09/29/20 5:03:41 PM #36: |
Oh, so this topic was that MTG has actually gotten EVEN WORSE than it already was?
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Questionmarktarius 09/29/20 5:07:17 PM #37: |
Meanwhile, in the 90s, we had this guy:
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DrizztLink 09/29/20 5:08:14 PM #38: |
radical rhino posted...
Im glad they realized that Negan should have a white mana cost.Why? @radical_rhino --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical rhino 09/29/20 5:16:27 PM #39: |
DrizztLink posted...
Why?Because he exercises complete totalitarian control of his community to maintain order for the ultimate benefit of his community. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 09/29/20 5:38:24 PM #40: |
https://cardboard-crack.com/post/630569386953015296/secret-lair
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DrizztLink 09/29/20 5:42:56 PM #41: |
radical rhino posted...
Because he exercises complete totalitarian control of his community to maintain order for the ultimate benefit of his community.Ok, I can see that. I haven't played MtG in years, but I can see how a Lawful Neutral/Evil could be White. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 09/29/20 10:02:01 PM #42: |
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Geisterdrache 10/01/20 6:40:36 PM #43: |
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/j3hu8m/weeklymtg_show_re_secret_lair_twd/
Well boys and girls time to pack it up or get with the times. Seems this is going to become the norm now. Fucking wild. Forstyhe - they want to work toward fandoms. Leans into fandoms and less corporate sponsorship like potato chips. People who love worlds. https://twitter.com/HipstersMTG/status/1311790304060735489 Just fucking horrendous. --- RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 10/01/20 6:59:34 PM #44: |
Great experiment. Like combining water and HCl.
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Doe 10/01/20 7:07:02 PM #45: |
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Shotgunnova 10/02/20 3:42:16 PM #46: |
Welp, the Commander rules committee voted to not ban the SL cards. It's a little disturbing, since yesterday's stream suggests there are going to be even more sellout-y SLs in the future.
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Questionmarktarius 10/02/20 3:45:31 PM #47: |
Shotgunnova posted...
since yesterday's stream suggests there are going to be even more sellout-y SLs in the future.MLP MTG, huh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 10/02/20 3:47:12 PM #48: |
man, now would be probably the best time in 10+ years to launch a new CCG. too bad none of my projects are very far along. hope someone smarter can figure something out.
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Shotgunnova 10/02/20 3:56:57 PM #49: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
MLP MTG, huh?https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/magic-extra-life- 2019-10-03 Medussa posted... man, now would be probably the best time in 10+ years to launch a new CCG. too bad none of my projects are very far along. hope someone smarter can figure something out.Something that would kill Wizards and arise as a new TCG champion, just like Richard Garfield intended. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 10/02/20 7:12:20 PM #50: |
https://mobile.twitter.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1312111082886975488
Welp. Theres the OP one any white human deck is gonna want. So much for avoiding powerful mechanically unique cards you scumsucking greedy pigs. --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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