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tgs2 10/18/20 4:12:51 PM #252: |
Looking up at the Sky Evo is not too horrible if it were standalone, but yikes is it a huge step down from the original.
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NFUN 10/18/20 4:35:03 PM #253: |
#125: Zero no Kiseki - Unconveyable Feelings
pyre: 7/4.5 deo: 7.1/5.9 Total: 7.05/5.2 (6.125) https://youtube.com/watch?v=mvv7E3U1vaQ https://youtube.com/watch?v=EGad8rVQBdU Huh. I don't remember this song at all but I actually like it quite a bit (the original version at least). Solid rhythm part and the combination of electronic held notes with xylophone sounds really neat, and I also like the exotic stringed instrument at 0:45. The Evo version makes the sensible change the vocal-sounding electronic part to actual choir vocals, but the rest of the song just sounds lukewarm and doesn't maintain tension at all. ------------------------------------------------------------- not everything needed to become orchestra, jindo!!! #124: Trails in the Sky SC - The Truth Behind the Tragedy pyre: 7.5/7 dowolf: 7/3 Total: 7.25/5 (6.125) https://youtube.com/watch?v=u8gLwfubJiY https://youtube.com/watch?v=FC2GovHgukg See my writeup for Hamel as these are the same song but with the first and second half flipped. Strangely though the change results in a notably lower score for the original version because the progression makes less sense, and it's missing the cool intro. It doesn't make much difference for the Evo version since it's being carried by one of the halves anyways, and the violin entrance at 2:34 actually sounds kind of weird in Hamel when it's towards the beginning of the song. ------------------------------------------------------------- The "dings" of OG are so much more powerful than the legato Evo. And what are those violins doing here from :25 to :50 or so? --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/18/20 5:05:54 PM #254: |
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See my writeup for Hamel Oops Aw yes Hamel. One of my favorite tracks from the original OST. The xylophone at the beginnining and the background chords sound so serene. The added instruments at the end also provide a good emotional climax to the song. As for the Evo version...ugh. Thematically I can see why they made the melody sound like it does but musically it doesn't really work. The notes need to be more clearly enunciated or something. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/18/20 5:07:01 PM #255: |
spoilers
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pyresword 10/18/20 5:10:47 PM #256: |
The spoilers are all in the original writeup I made for Truth Behind the Tragedy anyways. If you'd rather do it this way then you can edit my writeup out and then I'll delete my post and post them both whenever the other relevant song falls
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NFUN 10/18/20 5:21:07 PM #257: |
sounds like effort
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NFUN 10/18/20 5:55:18 PM #258: |
#123: Zero no Kiseki - Zero no Kiseki
Janus: 6.5/6 Lea: 5/7 Total: 5.75/6.5 (6.125) https://youtube.com/watch?v=KFpB_zs7IK8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=OgPNxXNM7zE Ah, the title screen. Has that good "you're about to set off on a tale full of intrigue and friendship and bruh moments" feel. I like the fake loop at the end where the first bit gets a bit busier. I did not expect that synth at the start, wew. Kinda jarring. The saxophone in this actually works really well though. Definitely more memorable, though in both directions. ------------------------------------------------------------- I love the jazzier take in Evo #122: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Till the Night of Glory hb: 6.7/4.7 NFUN: 7.5/5.6 Total: 7.1/5.15 (6.125) https://youtube.com/watch?v=G2hlAYsNWs4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=NeAG4FBvRZE A mostly standard battle-y theme, this one's fast pace is pretty good overall, but it dipping into a few notes of Sophisticated Fight pushes it higher in my eyes. Unfortunately, the Evo version replaces the main melody with a synth that is frankly kinda painful to hear (along with bees). The added piano is cool, but its not present enough to really save this one from being annoying. The Sophisticated Fight reference in this version also lacks some punch compared to how it comes in in the original. ------------------------------------------------------------- that song with a small sophisticated fight motif. The original is aight. Nothing too special, just something to hype yourself up with once in a while. I have a very bad feeling about the evo though... oh cool. the guitar is a little squeaky but not painful and the bees are at least (mostly) contained #121: Zero no Kiseki - Peril pyre: 6/5.5 deo: 7.5/5.6 Total: 6.75/5.55 (6.15) https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGkLLAcg-UQ https://youtube.com/watch?v=MP_0I5BPFZE Solid song. Some of the backing lines in the Evo version sound muted and weird though. ------------------------------------------------------------- wew lad the move to orchestra especially destroyed this one, it feels like nothing now. jindo pls --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/19/20 12:18:16 PM #259: |
#120: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Reminiscence
azuarc: 6.8/6.1 tgs: 6/5.9 Total: 6.4/6 (6.2) https://youtube.com/watch?v=NG4tr31wPPM https://youtube.com/watch?v=sVYRZr4BMW8 That chord at :40 completely changes the mood of the piece. Has some Dark Star vibes for a bit, then leaves the Secret of Mana zone. I feel like this track should be taking place in some kind of alt dimension like Corridors of Time. Evo tampering makes the piece feel more like a sci-fi track. It's interesting, but it lacks the mystery and eeriness of the original. ------------------------------------------------------------- #119: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Genuine Devil player0: 6/5 deo: 6.8/7 Total: 6.4/6 (6.2) https://youtube.com/watch?v=Azh7GQnR2kk https://youtube.com/watch?v=uj8Jfp7dmHo Some of these remakes slap way too much reverb on everything! In this case, the lack of distinct lead instruments muddies up a solid battle theme. Does have some redeeming moments like 1:56 and the ending chord though. ------------------------------------------------------------- RED ALERT RED ALERT I LIKED A SKY EVO VERSION MORE CODE RED CODE RED deo how could u --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/19/20 12:20:38 PM #260: |
RIP best generic boss theme in the series.
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NFUN 10/19/20 1:00:43 PM #261: |
#118: Ao no Kiseki - Unpretentious Dinner
azuarc: 5.4/5.4 Lea: 7/7 Total: 6.2/6.2 (6.2) https://youtube.com/watch?v=WmFs_KOkl-M https://youtube.com/watch?v=noI9qUlsjmE I assume this is a translation thing, but the title "Unpretentious Dinner" is hilarious to me. Especially when the music playing suggests that it's a VERY pretentious dinner. There's virtually no different in the evo version here. The sound is fuller, as though being played by a string ensemble instead of chamber musicians, but the overall design is the same. ------------------------------------------------------------- I liked the song, but didn't really differentiate the two versions #117: Ao no Kiseki - Confronting Reality pyre: 6.5/6 deo: 6.2/6.2 Total: 6.35/6.1 (6.225) https://youtube.com/watch?v=0vUWJhJTYto https://youtube.com/watch?v=-YZ4Z8CpLE0 Oh, this track! It's somewhat understated but I love the feeling that it conveys...which I guess I'd say is something like determination in the face of an overwhelming obstacle? Evo version is slightly worse because something about the low part is off a bit and doesn't convey the same gravity, but the song here is simple enough that it doesn't make much difference. ------------------------------------------------------------- --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dowolf 10/19/20 2:31:55 PM #262: |
Omen of Disaster's melody reminds me of Geofront. Not sure how intentional this is, but I love how it sounds so completely different here.
I am definitely the opposite of both rankers on Unconveyable Feelings -- that chorus just works for me here. zero no kiseki sounds noticeably different in let's plays than it does in the ost video. I assume this is a translation thing, but the title "Unpretentious Dinner" is hilarious to me. The Japanese is "modest," in the sense of self-humility (e.g., the word shows up in the Japanese equivalent to "A small token of our appreciation). Which I guess "unpretentious" is synonymous with, but >_> --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/19/20 3:26:51 PM #263: |
#116: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Beard the Lion in His Den
pyre: 7.5/8 NFUN: 8.7/0.7 Total: 8.1/4.35 (6.225) https://youtube.com/watch?v=uJxAX2yvSBQ https://youtube.com/watch?v=yfCOn6TlCF0 These sort of driving dungeon themes are generally songs I don't like as much as the rest of the fanbase. I think that does apply here since this is probably one of the most popular 3rd tracks, though I'd still easily call this one of the better songs like this myself. Also I've never noticed this before, but if you focus on things besides the bass there are some really really cool melodies in the backing melodies (the fact that this is difficult is mainly what holds the song back though). The Evo version is definitely better to me at least. Still has all the plusses of the original, but the "Singa-fication" of the main melody actually works in it's favor here. The techno buzzy sort of sound here is much more pleasant on my ears than the booming bass of the original. (Note: I don't actually know whether or not Singa worked on this particular track but it sounds like it). Although, the more subdued melodic parts at around 1:00 to 2:00 are probably better in the original version. ------------------------------------------------------------- A reminder: these songs were assigned RANDOMLY. I have been praying to get this, and I did only though dumb luck. The original is really good and all but SINGA-SAN! WHAT ARE YOU DOING! WHY ARE APOIDEANS ASSAULTING MY EARS!? Some parts are good (I like the super goofy orchestral hits) but WHY! WHY? WHY #115: Zero no Kiseki - Points and Lines azuarc: 5.8/4.5 NFUN: 6.9/7.7 Total: 6.35/6.1 (6.225) https://youtube.com/watch?v=E3pH_Ra_6iU https://youtube.com/watch?v=hArOZpyhMWs I dunno what's going on in this scene, but I hope it involves some stealth work in some dark city blocks, trying to sneak into the back entrance of a night club or thieves hideout or something. I've been listening to these collectively on my laptop, and the bass in the evo version sounds like absolute ass. Like, one step above fart noises. I know the speakers aren't fantastic, but they haven't sounded this awful for the other tracks. Plus I really don't care for what the rest of the variant is doing. Weird noises all over. ------------------------------------------------------------- :thonk: the song :thonk: the song with more beep boops #114: Zero no Kiseki - Protected Will tgs: 5.4/5.6 deo: 7.2/6.8 Total: 6.3/6.2 (6.25) https://youtube.com/watch?v=WVPmrpqI8BA https://youtube.com/watch?v=1YjOVQg2US4 ------------------------------------------------------------- cough --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/19/20 3:29:09 PM #264: |
The Will to Protect deserved so much better smh
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Janus5k 10/19/20 3:45:11 PM #265: |
Honestly while I probably wouldn't rate Beard the Lion Evo above the original the bees are more funny than offensive. The arrangement is mostly fine otherwise.
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Hbthebattle 10/19/20 3:56:30 PM #266: |
beezinga
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NFUN 10/19/20 4:00:35 PM #267: |
the bees are pain
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Hbthebattle 10/19/20 4:03:34 PM #268: |
NFUN posted...
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dowolf 10/19/20 4:32:01 PM #269: |
I love how different "will to protect" and "protected will" are in English languages are fun.
also I'm with Pyre on Lion. Though I don't think I'd have given either above a 6. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyubit_Foxstar 10/19/20 6:12:08 PM #270: |
I don't like how I gave several songs points instead of zeros for everything can I change this
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NFUN 10/19/20 6:21:03 PM #271: |
Kyubit_Foxstar posted...
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NFUN 10/20/20 2:11:42 PM #272: |
#113: Zero no Kiseki - Revache & Co.
hb: 5.8/6 deo: 6.5/6.7 Total: 6.15/6.35 (6.25) https://youtube.com/watch?v=PYsyvZZwDag https://youtube.com/watch?v=0zwRkc2JMMo Cool atmospheric music, but this one is held back by not really anywhere with it. The Evo version addeds quite a bit of percussion, so I actually like it more despite not liking the main synth's sound as much as the original's. ------------------------------------------------------------- #112: Trails in the Sky SC - The Hidden True Form hb: 5.8/5.9 deo: 7/6.3 Total: 6.4/6.1 (6.25) https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZA2HpdxiIaA https://youtube.com/watch?v=eT3vAgas4XA Eerie atmospheric music like this isn't generally my thing, but this one's usage of the main Trails in the Sky leitmotif gives it some more interest to me. The Evo version is significantly less creepy than the original by virtue of being string-based, but divorced from their game contest it's more engaging to listen to. It fails at its mission to mimic the original atmosphere, though, so there's a limit to how far it can go. ------------------------------------------------------------- --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/20/20 3:52:45 PM #273: |
#111: Zero no Kiseki - A Bell That Cannot Ring
pyre: 6.5/6 dowolf: 6/6.5 Total: 6.25/6.25 (6.25) https://youtube.com/watch?v=vJaTrTy654g https://youtube.com/watch?v=sYejLDsPMxE The song starts off with some neat mysterious ambiance and then transitions into some understated but really cool melodies in the second half. A but passive overall but I think I'm a fan anyways. Evo version is somewhat more sinister-sounding but I think it pretty much also works. I don't like the pluck sound of the instrument they're using in the latter half of the Evo version though, and also some parts in the middle just sound slightly worse. ------------------------------------------------------------- More lies from the Zero OST tracknames. Doesn't really get interesting until the 2 minute mark in OG. Evo is more interesting throughout, but doesn't hit that high mark quite as well. #110: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Wildcat's Counteroffensive Operation tgs: 8.3/2 Mycro: 7.45/7.4 Total: 7.875/4.7 (6.2875) https://youtube.com/watch?v=j2L9W8fTHY4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=oNr0WolDjKU The evo edition was on track to just be "x but slightly worse" until the section from ~1:10-1:35 hit. What the fuck was that hot garbage? That section was remininsent of the 999 BPM bit in Speed Star Kanade in that it RUINED the entire song with its awfulness. What a bummer :(. ------------------------------------------------------------- evo arrangement feels just a bit more amateur; it feels like it was going for a sakuraba-y prog rock vibe but does not pull it off very well imo, too artificial/sloppy simultaneously to come across that way. original is nice and clean and 90s-jrpg sounding which for this type of music, works a lot better. original feels like if chrono trigger battle theme got ported to sega cd with full prod arrangements or something and that is a good thing to imagine --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/20/20 3:59:32 PM #274: |
Big fan of Wildcat's Counteroffensive Operation. Not clear exactly sure where it would rank on the OST has 3rd has so many good songs, but I definitely like it. Easily the best of the Sun door themes. I also don't really like what the Evo version does with 1:10 but it doesn't ruin the song or anything for me.
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dowolf 10/20/20 4:36:37 PM #275: |
man i like the 1:10 to 1:35 bit.
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NFUN 10/20/20 4:46:25 PM #276: |
#109: Trails in the Sky - Seaport City of Ruan
hb: 5.4/5.7 NFUN: 7.4/6.7 Total: 6.4/6.2 (6.3) https://youtube.com/watch?v=-UBtYciyF-8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=5XU8tCqSCF0 Despite containing a bunch of elements I usually like, this one just doesn't do it for me and I'm not sure as to why. It's not bad, it's just... there. The Evo version's strings and flutes actually register as more interesting elements to me, improving the piece somewhat. ------------------------------------------------------------- crank dat soulja boy tell'em #108: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - The Mystery of the Sky is Kiseki de Pon! hb: 6.1/5.7 NFUN: 6.3/7.1 Total: 6.2/6.4 (6.3) https://youtube.com/watch?v=NXFxevOEFBY https://youtube.com/watch?v=6j025Omty2M An exciting and fun jam, this one unfortunately feels to me to be held back by the main synth drowing everything else out. The cool parts of the piece still have an effect (especially the bass that kicks in later) but the loudness of that synth holds it back. The Evo version gets rid of that synth, but it also makes the main melody's instrumentation worse and more shrill and just feels off-key and off-time. It got rid off my biggest issue with the original, but also damaged the parts I liked about the original. ------------------------------------------------------------- ah yes. the minigame that retroactively validates every thread title typo of "Trials in the Sky". Honestly it's pretty annoying Less annoying and the music box at the beginning is pretty cute. Appropriate bongos. I think the way this song evolutes as it progresses fits pretty well. Good #107: Trails in the Sky SC - Gravestone Struck by Lightning Janus: 7.5/4 deo: 7.1/6.7 Total: 7.3/5.35 (6.325) https://youtube.com/watch?v=ylouY3GIDSw https://youtube.com/watch?v=k_GtrUx1ev8 Always really liked this one with its angry syncopated organs and crazy drums. Even the quieter parts have a neat driving energy. Keyboard in the Evo feels really weak, and the general instrument sounds feel less cohesive. Don't think the harsher guitar fits this one. ------------------------------------------------------------- my one problem with the original (the beginning being a loud unrefined mess) was fixed, and everything else interesting and good about it went into the toilet okay Back in the day, I was disappointed in the song because I thought the rest of it didn't live up to how cool the beginning was. It's really grown on me since then --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/20/20 4:48:43 PM #277: |
is rolent really gonna be the top fc town theme
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tgs2 10/20/20 4:50:47 PM #278: |
I am just going to assume that those were the signature "bees" everyone talks about with Singa tracks as that crap was way too jarring for me at the 1:10 section in Wildcat evo.
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Toxtricity 10/20/20 5:43:03 PM #279: |
noooooo! Gravestone Struck by Lightning : ( big fan of that one!!!!!!!! agree that the remake is not nearly as good though
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FL81 10/20/20 6:20:26 PM #280: |
dropping a hot take but
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NFUN 10/21/20 12:27:49 PM #281: |
#106: Trails in the Sky SC - Infiltration
Raetsel: 5.001/6.03 tgs: 7.3/7 Total: 6.1505/6.515 (6.33275) https://youtube.com/watch?v=JqOto9_2G84 https://youtube.com/watch?v=JtIe8ZE4YmI Somehow the original version makes me think of the back alleys of Crossbell, which is deeply confusing. Evo version sounds...weird, but I like weird. ------------------------------------------------------------- rip the homie #105: Trails in the Sky SC - Looming Threat hb: 6.5/6.4 deo: 6.3/6.2 Total: 6.4/6.3 (6.35) https://youtube.com/watch?v=BEFKkCl7un8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN1SZhwm1r8 This is intense, agressive music that gives a strong feeling of tension. It strongly conveys the feelingt of needing to run and survive. THe Evo version has weaker drums, which reduce a lot of the tension, but some added segments help the song from being too repetitive. ------------------------------------------------------------- --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/21/20 12:43:15 PM #282: |
:(
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Janus5k 10/21/20 12:57:08 PM #283: |
my favorite Falcom song, To Make the End of hbthebattle
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NFUN 10/21/20 1:23:17 PM #284: |
#104: Trails in the Sky - A Cat Relaxing in the Sun
hb: 6/8 tgs: 5.3/6.1 Total: 5.65/7.05 (6.35) https://youtube.com/watch?v=G01LEdKV9VU https://youtube.com/watch?v=ur_mV3-TYUg Very relaxing, but not much beyond that until the synth comes in near the end. The Evo version has this cool sound where it feels/sounds like someone is humming alongside the song, which combined with the new acoustic guitar improves the piece from just relaxing to feeling really good to listen to, and when the strings come in is just excellent. ------------------------------------------------------------- bruh #103: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Stairway to Gehenna hb: 7.3/7.5 deo: 5.6/5.1 Total: 6.45/6.3 (6.375) https://youtube.com/watch?v=DLLhVMbiUgs https://youtube.com/watch?v=whwaY4cHjlE This track goes for the jugular- its incredibly sad and attempts to not just tug, but tear out your heartstrings, and the vibe it brings helps it succeed at that. The Evo versions uses more-real instruments and adds some more strings, which I feel helps the piece quite a bit, even if it loses a small amount of the original's sad atmosphere. ------------------------------------------------------------- --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/21/20 3:29:14 PM #285: |
#102: Trails in the Sky SC - Silver Will, Golden Wings
pyre: 7/7.5 dowolf: 7.5/3.5 Total: 7.25/5.5 (6.375) https://youtube.com/watch?v=eCgMMqTJcpY https://youtube.com/watch?v=CnJ8L2aIbE8 The worst version of Silver Will is still pretty good, it turns out. Vocals in the Evo version have a much better tone but are also less expressive. It ends up being a net win, but not a huge one. Really I think what it amounts to is just this song doesn't sound great with vocals imo, compared to the other versions. ------------------------------------------------------------- Evo's opening violin duet is amazing. And then the rest of the piece feels super rushed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3EKQqchkH8 #101: Ao no Kiseki - The Truth of the Rainy Day player0: 4/7 dowolf: 7/7.5 Total: 5.5/7.25 (6.375) https://youtube.com/watch?v=v6_PSOl5NMc https://youtube.com/watch?v=Op2HUAMQ5TI Someone's tragic backstory, complete with heartbeat sounds! The original has the calmness of a fleeting memory, but it doesn't match up to the raw emotion packed into the remake. It's a shame it has such beautiful melodic leads at 0:30 and 0:46, they could have been developed so much more in a longer track! ------------------------------------------------------------- Really close here. #100: Zero no Kiseki - Fulfilled Feelings hb: 7.7/7.9 Mycro: 5.04/5.14 Total: 6.37/6.52 (6.445) https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uxg09g6y_dE https://youtube.com/watch?v=SbQtw51PS5k A sweet mixing of piano and strings, this one is just... rewarding to listen to- the real "tears of joy" mood flows out of it. The Evo version places more focus on the strings than the piano, but its still just as good, and the later section pushes it to be a bit better in my eyes. ------------------------------------------------------------- big violin performance adds Emotional AND timbral variety that i appreciate; so evo version preferred. --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/22/20 1:46:02 PM #286: |
#99: Ao no Kiseki - Tower of the Shadow of Death -Jukebox-
pyre: 6/6.5 deo: 6.4/6.9 Total: 6.2/6.7 (6.45) https://youtube.com/watch?v=yaSTBZrVy0E https://youtube.com/watch?v=VP9xI-Z4Sws Nice smooth piano jazz. I like the tone of the piano more in the Evo version, and the more prominent drumset is also good. ------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeKaE-gusMmYzRZq1f7wzM75aeGjgz9up #98: Trails in the Sky - Don't Let Him Go! Lea: 6/6.5 NFUN: 6.9/6.4 Total: 6.45/6.45 (6.45) https://youtube.com/watch?v=krI8WXstAag https://youtube.com/watch?v=mxZ4yHCljWo its fine ------------------------------------------------------------- The villain is getting away in Spy Kids! After him! The villain is getting away in Chilldren of Spymatser! After him! --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/22/20 3:27:38 PM #287: |
#97: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - The Abyss
Place: 7/7 deo: 7/4.8 Total: 7/5.9 (6.45) https://youtube.com/watch?v=tABR8ePCV7o https://youtube.com/watch?v=VsbNG3ShTsg first one i've ranked and we're off on a pretty high note! this is def reminding me of something but i can't place it right now. dark ambience is a thing i really enjoy in music--wonder if this would be improved or not by removing the lead parts ------------------------------------------------------------- falcom's shitty port of hotline miami #96: Trails in the Sky SC - Conspiracy hb: 5.6/5.6 Mycro: 7.35/7.3 Total: 6.475/6.45 (6.4625) https://youtube.com/watch?v=0LaBi784zn0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=uaByERfOkVA It's menacing for sure, but this track doesn't really interest me, especially when compared to other sonds sharing its leitmotif like The Enforcers or Fateful Confrontation. It just doesn't do anything to make me care too much. Meanwhile, what the fuck is going on with the Evo version? The added (is that a triangle?) triangle iis slightly offkey for no reason, and overall there's just more sounds than the original, effectively drowning out the listener with tons of music. It's more memorable than the original for sure, but I can't really call it better. ------------------------------------------------------------- original version is just a bit cooler to me; i like SC's overall sound and this is an example of it. not a horrible evo remake though, it has its merits in being more intense, ]more metallic and heavy --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toxtricity 10/22/20 3:39:05 PM #288: |
NFUN posted...
falcom's shitty port of hotline miami this is my favorite writeup so far hahahaha --- time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/22/20 3:52:56 PM #290: |
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I finally acquired this so called "videoed game", I reserve the right to complete redo all my rankings and ruin the project once I play it.redoing your rankings would improve the project Remember to talk to everybody --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/22/20 4:21:30 PM #292: |
one of us one of us
Talking to everyone isn't mandatory. But if you are someone who likes talking to lots of NPC's, the NPC's in this series often have actual substantive dialogue and their own plotlines which are regularly updated. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/22/20 5:37:09 PM #293: |
#95: Ao no Kiseki - A Miracle is Shown
azuarc: 6.7/6.7 scything: 6.5/6 Total: 6.6/6.35 (6.475) https://youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6oxEkTJOU https://youtube.com/watch?v=J9bR2OImxfY This has got to be second phase final boss music. This song is pulling out all the stops to make it sound epic, but I don't feel like there's much difference with the evo version. If they're different, they're functionally equivalent. ------------------------------------------------------------- i dont have a comment here #94: Ao no Kiseki - Silence in the Sunlight Filtering Through the Trees Haste: 7/6.9 scything: 5.5/6.5 Total: 6.25/6.7 (6.475) https://youtube.com/watch?v=RQ6oDVCvaLo https://youtube.com/watch?v=gz7LKOIjS8E Having been familiar with the OTHER version first, I would say the original's instrumentation has more charm! The guitar has a bit of a blue-grass feel to it, and the flutes sound so barren and longing. Creates a unique feel. I love the bass's dark sound and and the piano doing those little complmentary bits, working together w/ the guitar in the second half... also a unique feeling. Even the choice of drums seem meaningful. i-VI harmonies are utilized nicely, and there's the nice addition of nat-VI at 0:33. Some catchy motifs, too. EVO version: Yeah, some of the instrumentation on this one sounds too "standard" and a lot of the feelings of the original have been lost, but actually that mainly applies to the violin. I love the raindrop piano strikes in the first part of it and some of the other ambient stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------- Good song, and a really good evo version again??? rip saudade #93: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - A Still World azuarc: 6.4/6.1 dowolf: 5/8.5 Total: 5.7/7.3 (6.5) https://youtube.com/watch?v=QgFpDnECTgs https://youtube.com/watch?v=_wj9L-MupbM Original works a backing part by tossing a ton of different melodies over top. It works. Evo has some neat ideas, but switches all the instruments around and adds some background SFX. Some of it works surprisingly well, like the ocean waves, and some of it is clearly the result of too much meddling. ------------------------------------------------------------- I love the instrumentation in the Evo version. Feels like water droplets, electric stuff with piano and strings works so well... It's so haunting. bruh moment --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/22/20 5:46:28 PM #294: |
A Still World easily one of the best 3rd songs imo, though this is actually probably higher than I expected it to place. I like a lot of what the Evo version does but unfortunately the climax of the song just doesn't work for me in that version. Would probably go like 8.5/7.5 if I were rating or something like that.
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NFUN 10/22/20 5:48:41 PM #295: |
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A Still World easily one of the best 3rd songs imo, though this is actually probably higher than I expected it to place. I like a lot of what the Evo version does but unfortunately the climax of the song just doesn't work for me in that version. Would probably go like 8.5/7.5 if I were rating or something like that.Up until the buzzing I'd agree, but that's unbearable, and the chorus at 1:50 gets it worse. Yowch. 8.5/6 --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/23/20 1:14:10 PM #296: |
#92: Zero no Kiseki - Geo-Front
player0: 8/7 dowolf: 6/5 Total: 7/6 (6.5) https://youtube.com/watch?v=TsP7WSySVfk https://youtube.com/watch?v=KONPZj5l0VM Super catchy Necrodancer-esque dungeon theme! The remake has a great echoey piano, but also strips down the entire second half of the song (which was the best part). Also, the acid bass isn't as PHAT and the distorted guitar is even weirder than the original's flute. ------------------------------------------------------------- This is meh, which is very different from "yawn." Though OG has that really cool lick around 1:30 that bumps it ahead bruh #91: Ao no Kiseki - The Tree at the Farthest End player0: 7/9 dowolf: 4/6 Total: 5.5/7.5 (6.5) https://youtube.com/watch?v=7LCTZuJrk8Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=ihZ4SWh4Les Cue someone shouting out the time signature! Reminds me of Etrian Odyssey labyrinths, especially Primeval Forest Ring (and by extension PMD4 - Road to Primeval Forest), which is an easy path to a high rating. The new percussion in the remake is everything...it really seals that mysterious but encouraging vibe that the song is going for! ------------------------------------------------------------- Probably the worst Trails final dungeon theme, which is admittedly a really good set of tracks but~ --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cakophon 10/23/20 1:52:31 PM #297: |
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Hbthebattle 10/23/20 1:54:00 PM #298: |
dowolved once more
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Janus5k 10/23/20 1:56:49 PM #299: |
RIP the best Tokyo Xanadu cameo
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Toxtricity 10/23/20 2:05:23 PM #300: |
The Tree at the Farthest End : ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (
that (maybe unsurprisingly?) is an 8+ for me --- time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 10/23/20 2:12:33 PM #301: |
#90: Trails in the Sky SC - The Whereabouts of Light Instrumental
Haste: 8.3/8.3 Lea: 5/4.5 Total: 6.65/6.4 (6.525) https://youtube.com/watch?v=s3K-jn42Xsc https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZJLqTHci98 Not gonna lie... I prefer the vocal version by quite a bit. This version at first I wasn't sure whether it was a violin or a harmonica... But I"m sure it's harmonica because it's obviously that in the EVO version. A lot of stuff is the same, but another difference I don't like is trading in guitar support for low string support. But yeah, I still like this! Music is very slow, emotional and longing. The drum ostinatos are very nice... the soft electronic ones add a lot of emotion to this. The rhythms of the piano and guitar support are great and intesify the feelings further. Great VI7 chord at 1:00! And yay, the fantastic guitar solo is still in this! The major chord ending fits so perfectly.... EVO version: the harmonica here sounds more like what it is like, but now it has awkard vibrato added, not to mention almost all the ornamenting/added notes are awkward too... the performer should have just stayed true to what was on the page, so I'm not sure which harmonica I like more! But that guitar solo is still pristine ike before, gee WHIZ, what a stark difference in quality. ------------------------------------------------------------- Very melancholy. I did not like Evo's harmonica additon LEA!!! #89: Ao no Kiseki - Steel Roar Verge of Death Haste: 8.7/8.4 scything: 4.5/4.5 Total: 6.6/6.45 (6.525) https://youtube.com/watch?v=_uZO4U9N86s https://youtube.com/watch?v=2yABduC07ro Whoa, Those rhythmic patterns in the bass/drum/piano are GREAT... Super suspsenful triple-duple meter here with some hemiola as well. Some of the other shoddy quality instruments in the early sections I don't like so much.... But there ARE some good harmonic bits in there that add lots of tension (0:39 - 0:46). But then we get some weird polytonality at 1:26... wow, those otherworldly echoing sounds are awesome. B-flat major vs. D-flat minor or something. Nitfy percussive electronic effects! That's gotta be my favorite part of it. EVO version: This one's got more of a full orchestral sound to it. I guess that's good because the rinky-dink parts are at a higher quality now, though I think the beginning section is better in the original. But now the alternate tonality in those high electronic effects are more difficult to hear.... booooooo! ------------------------------------------------------------- Did you really give me two arrangements of basically the same song?? Rng why. Anyway don't like it as much as the above but unisaga did an okay job here honestly Haste just getting owned. and WHAT IS THE ABOVE SCYTHING --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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