Current Events > i'm so tilted....lost all my money in poker on the last hand of the night in dum

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0.8/0.4 blinds

i started out with a stack of $40, was up a bit, down a bit then got doubled up with a pair of kings where i had the better kicker, up to $67

it was the last hand of the night, we are down to 3 people...i get JJ so i have to play it. i think "you know what, i don't want to think about it, i'll just shove and steal the blinds and call it a night up a good chunk"

so i shove all in...and this dude calls....with 7 8 off

here's the run out:

https://imgur.com/wfsDeoL

what kind of a moron calls an all in with that?!

hold me CE....

@whitelytning
@Kazi1212
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No_U_L7 posted...

what kind of a moron calls an all in with that?!

The guy who beat you and took your money

Rathinor posted...

The guy who beat you and took your money

In other words, a winner.

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Rathinor posted...

The guy who beat you and took your money

powerman1426 posted...

In other words, a winner.

you mean the guy ok with an 89% chance of losing his entire stack?
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No_U_L7 posted...

you mean the guy ok with an 89% chance of losing his entire stack?

He took 100% of your bet

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best hand won

Lost_All_Senses posted...

He took 100% of your money

Poor results alone dont make someone dumb, its poor process. Conversely, good results doesn't make someone any less of a moron
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No_U_L7 posted...

you mean the guy ok with an 89% chance of losing his entire stack?

Lost_All_Senses posted...

He took 100% of your bet

lmao

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oof, that's bad

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tm315 posted...

best hand won

Want to replay the hand, bet the same amount, ill take JJ you take 78 off, loser pays the winner?
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No_U_L7 posted...

Want to replay the hand, bet the same amount, ill take JJ you take 78 off, loser pays the winner?

Lol wtf is this

tm315 posted...

Lol wtf is this

if you think 78 off is the better hand, you should love to play that same scenario vs me
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No_U_L7 posted...

Want to replay the hand, bet the same amount, ill take JJ you take 78 off, loser pays the winner?

Sir this is a Wendy's, not a casino.

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No_U_L7 posted...

if you think 78 off is the better hand, you should love to play that same scenario vs me

2 pair beats 1 pair last I checked

tm315 posted...

2 pair beats 1 pair last I checked

pretty unlikely for you to get two pair with 7 8 off suit with that flop

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nfearurspecimn posted...

pretty unlikely for you to get two pair with 7 8 off suit with that flop

The suit has nothing to do with getting two pair

I stand by everything I said

No_U_L7 posted...

Poor results alone dont make someone dumb, its poor process. Conversely, good results doesn't make someone any less of a moron

Lost_All_Senses posted...

He took 100% of your bet

tm315 posted...

The suit has nothing to do with getting two pair

I stand by everything I said

it was you, wasn't it?

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If it was, I woulda won with the best hand

You went in with a pair, you lost. Shit happens, it's not like you had much of a hand anyway

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tm315 posted...

2 pair beats 1 pair last I checked

cant focus on the results, gotta look at the process. you play, would you ever call a shove with 78 off?

powerman1426 posted...

You went in with a pair, you lost. Shit happens, it's not like you had much of a hand anyway

JJ isnt much of a hand?! JJ may take a lot of shit...but it is a monster of a hand, especially 3 handed
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No_U_L7 posted...

cant focus on the results, gotta look at the process. you play, would you ever call a shove with 78 off?

No. But bad beat stories are the worst

No one cares, standard

JJ is a pair. You have no good draw and the only reason you're upset is after the fact. You don't know what he had, he could've been sitting pocket aces. End of the day, you went in with a pair and he got lucky. If you can't afford to lose you shouldn't play

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powerman1426 posted...

You went in with a pair, you lost. Shit happens

i wanted him to win :(. now he lost his money.
gawd damnit!.

it's going to set off a chain of events in the far distant future.... busted jaw. a lost job (maybe the first thing won't happen but the job will).
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tm315 posted...

No. But bad beat stories are the worst

No one cares, standard

there's 25 posts in this topic of people who care

powerman1426 posted...

JJ is a pair. You have no good draw and the only reason you're upset is after the fact. You don't know what he had, he could've been sitting pocket aces. End of the day, you went in with a pair and he got lucky. If you can't afford to lose you shouldn't play

yeah that's the entire point, before the fact, it's dumb af to call with 7 8 off

do you know the chances of 2 people having pocket pairs when 3 handed? it's p slim

kingdrake2 posted...

i wanted him to win :(. now he lost his money.
gawd damnit!.

it's going to set off a chain of events in the far distant future.... busted jaw. a lost job (maybe the first thing won't happen but the job will).

thank you, at least someone is rooting for me
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No_U_L7 posted...

yeah that's the entire point, before the fact, it's dumb af to call with 7 8 off

do you know the chances of 2 people having pocket pairs when 3 handed? it's p slim

It really doesn't matter tho, you went all in with a pair. He could've beat you many ways, none of which you know. You went all in trying to bully the pot and got caught out by lady luck. You only know he was weak after the fact. You went in blind and lost

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powerman1426 posted...

It really doesn't matter tho, you went all in with a pair. He could've beat you many ways, none of which you know. You went all in trying to bully the pot and got caught out by lady luck. You only know he was weak after the fact. You went in blind and lost

Its poker...its always blind. Statistically this works out for me 99% of the time. Either everyone folds or they call and don't hit their over cards. But this dumb moron has TWO UNDERCARDS and still beat me. Thats not just bad luck, thats like someone put a curse on me (and I wouldn't be surprised if someone did)
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No_U_L7 posted...

Thats not just bad luck, thats like someone put a curse on me (and I wouldn't be surprised if someone did)

Rigged!!

tm315 posted...

Rigged!!

I've been thinking for some time the RNG on this platform is rigged, but I've been holding back thinking "its just the volume" etc....but this run against me lately has been so insane
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You could've waited on your all in. The fact remains, you went all in on a pair blind. You payed for that. That's all there is to it.

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No_U_L7 posted...

I've been thinking for some time the RNG on this platform is rigged, but I've been holding back thinking "its just the volume" etc....but this run against me lately has been so insane

yeah, most losing players think it's rigged

powerman1426 posted...

You could've waited on your all in. The fact remains, you went all in on a pair blind. You payed for that. That's all there is to it.

The point of going all in is to deny everyone's hand equity. Its dangerous with more players since statically someone else is likely to have a monster hand. 3 handed, im not that worried about someone having QQ+. If i let them see a flop, they can easily win the hand or fold, ie it becomes much easier for them to play perfect poker...when I shove it forces them to fold (and I get the blinds) or make poor decisions...like calling with 78 off thinking I have pocket 2s or something. Another reason to shove was this was the agreed upon LAST HAND OF THE NIGHT. I didnt want to think any more and knew statistically this move would work out in my favor. Imagine if I just bet like $3 and there was Q on the flop...id have no clue what to easily do and would have to actually think

Tl;Dr, shoving is a +ev move there

Can't fold JJ, can't limp with it, raising is tough because if it goes to flop it creates too much indecision. BTW, if he had KQ and hit i would be angry but much less angry. But this dude had 78 off!!!

FYI earlier when I was short stacked I shoved all in with pocket 9s and this guy folded AJ...but he called this?!
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They believed in the heart of the cards. You believed in percentages.

tm315 posted...

yeah, most losing players think it's rigged

I'm a winning player, ive made enough to pay the months rent playing only sparingly. If i just play bad, I have no problem saying that it is my fault...but I did everything right there and was an 89% favorite to win!

If you told me there was an 89% chance I'd get a billion dollars and 11% chance I'd die, id take those odds every single time without any hesitation
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You only know what he had after the fact. You only play what you have, you played it you lost. You went in with a pair and got beat, that's the entire story. The thing about odds? Sometimes the unlikely happens. For all you knew, he had aces. Unlikely? Sure. But you went in with a pair, and lost. That is all there is to say

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powerman1426 posted...

You only know what he had after the fact. You only play what you have, you played it you lost. You went in with a pair and got beat, that's the entire story. The thing about odds? Sometimes the unlikely happens. For all you knew, he had aces. Unlikely? Sure. But you went in with a pair, and lost. That is all there is to say

And if he had aces, I'd chalk it up to bad luck...not evil spirits is haunting me bad luck like what happened

Who cares if I only knew what he had after the fact....statistically that move works out in my favor

Do you not understand percentages?!
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No_U_L7 posted...

Who cares if I only knew what he had after the fact....statistically that move works out in my favor

Do you not understand percentages?!

But it didn't. Do you not understand percentages? You had a chance to lose, and you did. It happened, it'll happen again. That's how chance works. A pocket pair is the best you can hope for, but you got caught out. It's called gambling for a reason, ya know?

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Sucks TC nothing you can do there. That may have been a -ev play long term though because most of the times you getting called in that spot by the premium hands which either you're crushed against or a 50-50 flip. But I get your thinking, its the end of the night and you just want to pick up the blinds. Never underestimate the stupidity and impulsive nature of gamblers though. In the end, since you did get called by a hand in which you're a 90% favorite, theoretically you want that call every time in that spot

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powerman1426 posted...

But it didn't. Do you not understand percentages? You had a chance to lose, and you did. It happened, it'll happen again. That's how chance works. A pocket pair is the best you can hope for, but you got caught out. It's called gambling for a reason, ya know?

youre saying you dont see why it sucks so insanely when you lose to such a small percentage on a relatively safe play on the very last hand of the night?

let me tell you a story @powerman1426

i used to play professional pokemon

in pokemon, luck is extremely involved-there was speed ties, freezes, burns, critical hits

those are all a small percentage of happening and can somewhat be mitigated

over my very long pokemon career i got bad luck tons of times and got lucky tons of times

but once...

my team and i made it all the way to the championship round. in the deciding game, i all but had the series wrapped up. everyone in our IRC group chat was all but popping champagne and celebrating our championship

but do you know what happened? my gyarados got frozen by ice beam on the next turn, a 10% chance. it was no biggie, it was that much of a guarantee i would win, my team was still celebrating

do you know what happened on the next turn? i stayed frozen and gyarados got a critical hit, an 80% then 6.25% chance of happening.

and then you know what happened next turn? same thing, 80% chance and then 6.25%. my gyarados was dead

still no big deal, i had 1 last pokemon that could take a hit and clean up....do i even need to tell you what happened? the pokemon won the speed tie vs me...and then dealt me a critical hit, a 50% chance and then a 6.25% chance

we lost the championship

i was in pain for a very long time after that. i re-watched that replay every week for at least a year. it was and probably is still the worst moment of my life.

do you know statistically what the chances of all those events going against me? i had calculated it at the time but it is INSANELY low

the universe is really working against you when dumb low chances occur that often

in fact, i published an article in the pokemon magazine about luck/probability after that

and that has just happened again here, so i'm sure you'll understand why im not feeling too happy atm
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Kazi1212 posted...

Sucks TC nothing you can do there. That may have been a -ev play long term though because most of the times you getting called in that spot by the premium hands which either you're crushed against or a 50-50 flip. But I get your thinking, its the end of the night and you just want to pick up the blinds. Never underestimate the stupidity and impulsive nature of gamblers though. In the end, since you did get called by a hand in which you're a 90% favorite, theoretically you want that call every time in that spot

yeah, that's the sucky part....i was still very much on edge after he called, especially once that 8 hit....i really didnt want him to call with anything lol
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i just got hit by a red light camera, i can relate

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Roxborough4Ever posted...

i just got hit by a red light camera, i can relate

Did you run it?! Gotta be careful, for your own safety if anything
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TLDR on the Pokmon stuff. I know nothing about it. But gambling is gambling, you had the numbers on your side, but it didn't matter. You go in with a pair, it's the easiest to beat. You had a high pair yes, but as it's blind, they don't know what you have any more than you know what they have.
They called you and you got a bad beat, it doesn't make them an idiot. They took a risk, so did you. It just happens they got lucky. For all they knew, you had nothing and were trying to buy the pot

Edit: which you were. And going all in and them calling leads me to believe they were up on you already

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Bad beats = poker

If the best starting hand won every time it wouldn't be gambling. I read an article by a poker pro who talked about losing to an amateur at house game because he was simply too unpredictable. In the long run he could outplay the amateur, but for a few hands the amateur could definitely take his money.

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powerman1426 posted...

TLDR on the Pokmon stuff. I know nothing about it. But gambling is gambling, you had the numbers on your side, but it didn't matter. You go in with a pair, it's the easiest to beat. You had a high pair yes, but as it's blind, they don't know what you have any more than you know what they have.
They called you and you got a bad beat, it doesn't make them an idiot. They took a risk, so did you. It just happens they got lucky. For all they knew, you had nothing and were trying to buy the pot

Calling any all in with 78 off is a dumb move. Best case I have pocket 6s or below and they have a 42% chance to win

Even if I had A2 im still way ahead

If i had 92 im still ahead. And if he was paying any sort of attention he would know im not loose enough to shove with 86 or lower which is what he needed to have a good chance to take the pot

You said it yourself the numbers were on my side

More importantly he knew the numbers weren't on his side and still called...making him a moron and what occurred a travesty. If this were a just world I would have won and he'd be evaluating how much of an idiot he is right now, but alas there's no justice in this world or id have 1 more pokemon championship and 134 more dollars
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Bad beats = poker

If the best starting hand won every time it wouldn't be gambling. I read an article by a poker pro who talked about losing to an amateur at house game because he was simply too unpredictable. In the long run he could outplay the amateur, but for a few hands the amateur could definitely take his money.

Yeah, I can live with bad beats. If he had AQ and hit the Q id just say that sucked, be sad a few min and be over it. This dude made a call of such epically bad proportions and won....thats what really gets me
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BUT, he won on that. You can keep letting it bother you, or get over it tbh. If you can't get over the fact that you can't always win, you're gonna have a really bad time. If an amateur getting lucky pissed you off, you really should rethink your hobby.
You went all in, meaning you were down. He called, maybe figuring he'll get rid of you if he gets lucky. Either way, if he knew the numbers were against him as you say and did it anyway, he's confident he can beat you. Sounds like you got taken

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No_U_L7 posted...

Did you run it?! Gotta be careful, for your own safety if anything

it was 3 in the morning and i thought i could beat a yellow in a industrial part of town.....yeah, im gonna have to take my medicine on this

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You go to any poker site they would say it was a dumb move by the opponent, at best with 78 hes a 40% dog so putting in your money when you know youre going to be an underdog is a dumb move categorically. But because TC has a rep on this site we have to disagree with everything he say. I get it, thats just the way things work here

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