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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:05:48 PM
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idiots wanna boycott that sick af harry potter game even tho she had no part in its development. yeah her retcons of hp characters is stupid. that doesnt mean shit about this game or her new book
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Antifar
09/19/20 6:06:22 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
yeah her retcons of hp characters is stupid.

That is not what people are upset about
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Simon_Petrikov
09/19/20 6:06:24 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
her new book


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g0ldie
09/19/20 6:07:19 PM
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her public perception is that she's transphobic (she's a TERF, so fair), so people are attacking her works as an extension of her.

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GrandConjuraton
09/19/20 6:07:20 PM
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Because she is an unrepentant bigot and a generally awful person.

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PMarth2002
09/19/20 6:07:47 PM
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She's been saying a lot of transphobic stuff.

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:08:25 PM
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Antifar posted...


That is not what people are upset about


her new book is about a trans serial killer. its a edgier dexter. dont see the problem
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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:09:09 PM
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g0ldie posted...
her public perception is that she's transphobic (she's a TERF, so fair), so people are attacking her works as an extension of her.


wtf is a terf?
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HBKick18
09/19/20 6:09:26 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
She's been saying a lot of transphobic stuff.
and you know she is getting money from this game so contributing to her wealth when she's an asshole feels wrong

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PBusted
09/19/20 6:09:52 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
her new book is about a trans serial killer. its a edgier dexter. dont see the problem
It's more that the book has a man pretending to be a woman in order to kill people and then when you put it in context with her tweets where she says transwomen aren't really women...
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TheGoldenEel
09/19/20 6:09:53 PM
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She has been openly anti-trans on Twitter the past couple years, pushing her belief that trans women arent real women and, for example, shouldnt use womens restrooms because there are men who would dress like women and call themselves trans to assault women, or some bullshit

and she just wrote a book where theres a serial killer who dresses like a woman to murder women


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Antifar
09/19/20 6:11:13 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
her new book is about a trans serial killer.

Also not true; the character is a cis man who dresses as a woman to kill his victims. Which is the common and false claim of what will happen if you let trans people use the bathroom corresponding to their gender identity.
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Lost_All_Senses
09/19/20 6:11:54 PM
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https://youtu.be/1HanamOnfZ4

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BudDupree48
09/19/20 6:12:39 PM
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g0ldie posted...
transphobic


g0ldie posted...
TERF

Lol

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Frogles
09/19/20 6:13:31 PM
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because twitter is full of stupid and crazy people.

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g0ldie
09/19/20 6:14:29 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
wtf is a terf?
a Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist

basically a feminist who doesn't want to include trans women in the journey for egalitarianism, more recognition for issues concerning women, etc.

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:14:33 PM
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PBusted posted...

It's more that the book has a man pretending to be a woman in order to kill people and then when you put it in context with her tweets where she says transwomen aren't really women...


gotta be honest. im not seeing the problem here and im pro trans rights. its fiction and you gotta separate art from the artist. i dont agree with her overall views on trans people for the record
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Comfy_Pillow
09/19/20 6:14:41 PM
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She thinks trans women will take over womens rights issues and put the spotlight more on that group vs cis women which still have a lot of their own problems to fight.

Which apparently is super evil I guess I dunno
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AlephZero
09/19/20 6:15:15 PM
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In her new book a character wears a wig and a woman's coat in order to kill a woman. This is clear proof that she hates all trans people and wants them sent to camps.

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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:16:28 PM
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Frogles posted...
because twitter is full of stupid and crazy people.


ITP: Not wanting to support a transphobe is stupid.

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TheGoldenEel
09/19/20 6:16:33 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
gotta be honest here. im not seeing the problem here and im pro trans rights. its fiction and you gotta separate art from the artist. i dont agree with her overall views on trans people for the record
You cant separate her belief of trans women are a threat to real women with her writing a book where the threat to women is a man who disguised himself as a woman

you just cant

she is writing literal propaganda to push her beliefs

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:17:51 PM
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spikethedevil posted...


ITT: Not wanting to support a transphobe is stupid.



define transphobia
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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:19:01 PM
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A good example is all the BS Rowling has tweeted.

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CanuckCowboy
09/19/20 6:19:14 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
You cant separate her belief of trans women are a threat to real women with her writing a book where the threat to women is a man who disguised himself as a woman

you just cant

she is writing literal propaganda to push her beliefs

That basically.

theres some shitty people who made great music or wrote great books etc.

But when your art reflects your shit beliefs and acts as propaganda for them you can modt certainly call it out.

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Frogles
09/19/20 6:19:48 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
A good example is all the BS Rowling has tweeted.
man get out of here with this non response. give us an example of something she tweeted. i looked up her comments on wikipedia and nothing she said was bad at all.

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:20:02 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...

You cant separate her belief of trans women are a threat to real women with her writing a book where the threat to women is a man who disguised himself as a woman

you just cant

she is writing literal propaganda to push her beliefs


by that logic the people that made and star in man in high castle are all nazis and wanted hitler to win
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BudDupree48
09/19/20 6:20:06 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
transphobe

Lol

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Antifar
09/19/20 6:20:32 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
its fiction and you gotta separate art from the artist.

Buying the art gives money to the artist. If some people don't want to do that, I don't think that's unreasonable.
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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:20:38 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
Lol

Why lol?

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Gwynevere
09/19/20 6:21:16 PM
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Why do I get the weird feeling this thread wasn't made in good faith

Strange

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g0ldie
09/19/20 6:21:51 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
by that logic the people that made and star in man in high castle are all nazis and wanted hitler to win
that analogy only follows if they spread pro-Hitler/Nazi rhetoric irl

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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:22:15 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Why do I get the weird feeling this thread wasn't made in good faith

Strange

Funnily enough I get the same feeling.


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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:22:36 PM
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Antifar posted...


Buying the art gives money to the artist


im a big mel gibson fan. am I promoting anti semitism by buying his flicks?
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VonOrdelia
09/19/20 6:24:12 PM
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For being a pos terf

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:25:59 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Why do I get the weird feeling this thread wasn't made in good faith

Strange


im a big harry potter fan and im hyped af for that game. im pro trans rights but really dont give a shit if shes a awful person irl
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StarReaper13
09/19/20 6:27:04 PM
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People don't want to give someone money because they said something the consumers didn't like? How dare those consumers exercise their right to choose where their money goes? >:(

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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:27:04 PM
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And yet many people do care and dont want to support a bigot.

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PBusted
09/19/20 6:27:55 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
im a big harry potter fan and is hyped af for that game. im pro trans rights but really dont give a shit if shes a awful person irl
I mean, you can definitely buy Harry Potter regardless of what the artist does. Your topic title is why Rowling is getting shit on.
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CanuckCowboy
09/19/20 6:28:11 PM
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Frogles posted...
man get out of here with this non response. give us an example of something she tweeted. i looked up her comments on wikipedia and nothing she said was bad at all.

shes a billionaire celeb who is presumably aware of current societal views and reactions and felt it necessary to state that trans women arent real women on a giant social networking site.

thats not indicative of a positive or accepting viewpoint.

You dont have to be vocally for anything but when you feel a need to be vocally against people who arent harming anyone youre probly a shitty person who should stfu

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BudDupree48
09/19/20 6:28:17 PM
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Antifar posted...
Buying the art gives money to the artist. If some people don't want to do that, I don't think that's unreasonable.

And that's fine but the witch hunt, flaming pitchforks, cancel culture is terribly toxic.

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KeeperOfShadows
09/19/20 6:28:50 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
You cant separate her belief of trans women are a threat to real women with her writing a book where the threat to women is a man who disguised himself as a woman

you just cant

Eh, you kinda can. Sure, you're free to assume that the two are directly related, but you don't actually know that. I'd at least wait to see how the character is portrayed to assume it's written as propaganda.

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BudDupree48
09/19/20 6:28:53 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
thats not indicative of a positive or accepting viewpoint.

Doesn't mean it's transphobic tho or she's an automatic label that is transphobe

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marthsheretoo
09/19/20 6:28:53 PM
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You can bet companies are monitoring how well the game sells and using that as evidence one way or another for how much they should care about trans people.

If you support trans rights, don't buy the game. Sail the high seas if you have to.

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Bluebomber182
09/19/20 6:29:13 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
People don't want to give someone money because they said something the consumers didn't like? How dare those consumers exercise their right to choose where their money goes? >:(


but she isnt involved in the game
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AlisLandale
09/19/20 6:30:08 PM
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KeeperOfShadows posted...
Eh, you kinda can. Sure, you're free to assume that the two are directly related, but you don't actually know that. I'd at least wait to see how the character is portrayed to assume it's written as propaganda.

In a vacuum, sure, a cross-dressing serial killer should be fair game. but when you look at this character as part of a pattern, its definitely not a good look

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/09/jk-rowling-transphobia-new-novel-troubled-blood-controversy

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spikethedevil
09/19/20 6:30:56 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
but she isnt involved in the game

She still gets royalties.

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marthsheretoo
09/19/20 6:31:49 PM
#47:


Look man, you made a thread asking why people are giving JKR shit and you got an answer.

Now you're whining that other people don't want to buy this new game.

Like, buy it or don't buy it, just stop making a scene over it.

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KeeperOfShadows
09/19/20 6:32:32 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
In a vacuum, sure, a cross-dressing serial killer should be fair game. but when you look at this character as part of a pattern, its definitely not a good look

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/09/jk-rowling-transphobia-new-novel-troubled-blood-controversy

Oh, I definitely get the logic behind the assumption. Just saying it's a bit too early to say with any certainty.

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CanuckCowboy
09/19/20 6:32:35 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
Doesn't mean it's transphobic tho or she's an automatic label that is transphobe

It most definitely indicates that shes got strong anti trans feelings.

You dont make that statement publicly in this day and age unless youre dumb or really have strong negative sentiments about men who transitioned.

It didnt need to be said and i dont think shes an idiot but somehow she felt it necessary to express that view.

I dont know how you can say that doesnt indicate a level of transphobia tbh.

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Delirious_Beard
09/19/20 6:37:09 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
Lol

hey remember when you called the LGBT community a cult

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