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VipaGTS
09/18/20 12:25:09 PM
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Theyve been surprisingly quiet.

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Lysandear
09/18/20 12:26:29 PM
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doesnt matter. theyre this quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Replace anti-semites with alt right. They are keenly aware they have no convictions

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Relient_K
09/18/20 12:28:33 PM
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Its absolutely disgusting. I makes me feel sick to think this is happening to people in our country.

Other than vote Biden(which I am) I don't know what else I can do. Trump needs to go. Any Republicans who ever supported him in any capacity need to go. I say this as someone pro-life. But I think I'm more genuine about it than a lot of others.

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Funkydog
09/18/20 12:28:36 PM
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Lysandear posted...
doesnt matter. theyre this quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Replace anti-semites with alt right. They are keenly aware they have no convictions
That gives them far too much credit tbh.

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Lysandear
09/18/20 12:31:05 PM
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I think you're giving them too little
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An_Actual_Chad
09/18/20 12:33:51 PM
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The important question is what would a pro lifter say about it?



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baby_yoda
09/18/20 12:34:22 PM
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They be like dis:

Pro life? Yes but not that kind of lives lmao

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Funkydog
09/18/20 12:34:37 PM
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Lysandear posted...
I think you're giving them too little
For some, perhaps. But I think many are just that caught up in a cult they don't see their own hypocrisy and only see "fuck the other side", so anything that makes "their side" look bad is just more lies to ignore and reason for why they are bad guys with "making these things up"

Whatever it is, they are abhorrent people regardless though.

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The_Creep_2020
09/18/20 12:39:46 PM
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Lysandear posted...
doesnt matter. theyre this quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Replace anti-semites with alt right. They are keenly aware they have no convictions

Theres a great Kurt Tucholsky poem that was about the fascists, that applies just as well today to certain sectors of the political landscape today. Heres a rendition by one of my favourite artists.

https://youtu.be/a1yy9kVQW_E

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littlebro07
09/18/20 12:44:13 PM
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"Can't get an abortion if you get a hysterectomy! Checkmate, liberals!"

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HylianFox
09/18/20 12:45:58 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
"Can't get an abortion if you get a hysterectomy! Checkmate, liberals!"

this

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bover_87
09/18/20 12:46:28 PM
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something something anchor babies
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Duncanwii
09/18/20 12:47:13 PM
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Until they start gassing prisoners people like my dad will never admit that these are Concentration Camps. Actually might not care since they're here illegally.
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nfearurspecimn
09/18/20 12:47:50 PM
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"It was only 20 women! They agreed to do the surgery!"

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 12:48:43 PM
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bover_87 posted...
something something anchor babies
Anchor babies are only a problem if we let them be anchors.
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HylianFox
09/18/20 12:48:51 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Until they start gassing prisoners people like my dad will never admit that these are Concentration Camps. Actually might not care since they're here illegally.

"ICE Detainment Centers" my ass, just call them what they fucking are
>_>

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 12:51:07 PM
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HylianFox posted...
"ICE Detainment Centers" my ass, just call them what they fucking are
Japanese-internment camps are a much closer comparison. Even then, not quite the same.
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Alteres
09/18/20 12:53:57 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
"It was only 20 women! They agreed to do the surgery!"
If someone was going to try that argument they would be better off pointing out that it started 6 years ago.

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 12:55:00 PM
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Alteres posted...
If someone was going to try that argument they would be better off pointing out that it started 6 years ago.
"over the past six years" just undermines the internet rage even more.
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baby_yoda
09/18/20 1:19:53 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Japanese-internment camps are a much closer comparison. Even then, not quite the same.

I dont think dey had forced mass sterilizations in the Japanese camps tho

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 1:21:29 PM
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baby_yoda posted...
I dont think dey had forced mass sterilizations in the Japanese camps tho
FDR did it, so probably?
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ScazarMeltex
09/18/20 1:26:54 PM
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Nothing. They are morally bankrupt and care about power not life.

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VipaGTS
09/18/20 2:36:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"over the past six years" just undermines the internet rage even more.

so you were ok with it 6 years ago too? Why?

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 2:39:20 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
so you were ok with it 6 years ago too? Why?
Twenty instances over six years is not a "mass sterilization".
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VipaGTS
09/18/20 2:40:36 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Twenty instances over six years is not a "mass sterilization".
Does it matter? If just one abortion is too many why are you ok with this? Shouldnt you want none of this? ps: I never said mass.

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 2:42:21 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
If just one abortion is too many why are you ok with this?
Are you sure you're not arguing with someone else?
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UnholyMudcrab
09/18/20 2:42:55 PM
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I don't give a shit what they have to say about it. It's completely indefensible.

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baby_yoda
09/18/20 2:43:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Twenty instances over six years is not a "mass sterilization".

u keep defending dis lol.


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VipaGTS
09/18/20 2:43:18 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Are you sure you're not arguing with someone else?
I mean you came into this topic to argue so Im assuming you are whom Im speaking of in the OP.

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 2:43:43 PM
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baby_yoda posted...
u keep defending dis lol.
what, twice?
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baby_yoda
09/18/20 2:45:27 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
what, twice?

I dont know u have defended it more dan twice?

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 2:47:45 PM
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baby_yoda posted...
I dont know u have defended it more dan twice?
to paraphrase, from multiple threads about this:

"expensive hysterectomies seem unlikely for slapdash camps"
"oh, it's been twenty, over six years"
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baby_yoda
09/18/20 2:54:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
to paraphrase, from multiple threads about this:

"expensive hysterectomies seem unlikely for slapdash camps"
"oh, it's been twenty, over six years"

yet theyre happening

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KiwiTerraRizing
09/18/20 3:00:59 PM
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Pro lifers use that term to reframe the narrative. They know full well making abortion illegal wont reduce the number of abortions. The point is to imprison women who have control over their bodies and sexuality.

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/20 8:19:13 PM
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baby_yoda posted...
yet theyre happening
If this was some nefarious eugenics plan, there'd be a hell of a lot more than 20, or at least reports of hundreds of tubal ligations and maybe also vasectomies.

Something else is going on.
I'd guess a crooked doctor padding his pockets with several dubiously "medically necessary" surgeries. If it turns out a few of them didn't actually happen, this will be pretty much confirmed.
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ThunderTrain
09/18/20 8:21:43 PM
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They don't care. They aren't pro life they are pro birth. They wouldn't care if the babies are thrown in the dumpster right after as long as its born.

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Turbam
09/18/20 8:23:46 PM
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Has it actually been confirmed or is it still just "rumored"?
I really hope that its not true, its deplorable.

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baby_yoda
09/18/20 11:37:13 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If this was some nefarious eugenics plan, there'd be a hell of a lot more than 20, or at least reports of hundreds of tubal ligations and maybe also vasectomies.

Something else is going on.
I'd guess a crooked doctor padding his pockets with several dubiously "medically necessary" surgeries. If it turns out a few of them didn't actually happen, this will be pretty much confirmed.

there are 20 THAT WE KNOW OF.

how come one abortion is one too much but 20 cases of eugenics is peachy?


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hockeybub89
09/18/20 11:39:37 PM
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"They should have come here through proper channels"

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ButteryMales
09/18/20 11:45:50 PM
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They'll say "Why stop there?"
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008Zulu
09/18/20 11:52:19 PM
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Turbam posted...
Has it actually been confirmed or is it still just "rumored"?
I really hope that its not true, its deplorable.
That it has been this long without confirmation or refutation, may not bode well for it's validity.

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