Current Events > Super Mario 64 DS is the better version

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Should've been the one in 3D All-Stars.

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Lol no

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No. Not having analog control for that game is complete ass.

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nfearurspecimn posted...

No. Not having analog control for that game is complete ass.

Does the analog stick on 3DS work?

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It really is. More levels, more characters, it is the complete version.
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This should have been Re-mastered for the Mario 3D game.

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I loved the mini games in 64 DS

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littlebro07 posted...

Does the analog stick on 3DS work?

unfortunately no. it's still in only 8 directions like if you used the D-pad. you'd have to hack a rom or something to get true analog to work.

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Veggeta X posted...

This should have been Re-mastered for the Mario 3D game.

Should have. But lollazynintendo

You're wrong but that's okay

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Playing on the dpad cut up my thumb. But I agree the additional characters are a plus for that version.

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nfearurspecimn posted...

No. Not having analog control for that game is complete ass.

That's the only weakness of the game in comparison to the original. If Nintendo weren't lazy hacks they could've easily fixed the controls for the collection and smooth out the pixels, thus eliminating the one thing 64 has over DS.

LightningAce11 posted...

It really is. More levels, more characters, it is the complete version.

Yah. Like I like Original 64 but it feels lackluster and almost unfinished in comparison.

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Blue_Target posted...

I loved the mini games in 64 DS

Oh yeah those were the best, yet another reason why it's the superior game.

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apocalyptic_4 posted...

Playing on the dpad cut up my thumb. But I agree the additional characters are a plus for that version.

You were meant to play using the thumb strap on the touchscreen

Thing is though the controls matter way more than any of that extra stuff.

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HarryCaNab posted...

You were meant to play using the thumb strap on the touchscreen

This, it was easy to control this way

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Always wanted to try this port. Saw it once at a gamestop without a case, but passed on it bc gamestop

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Not really

• Controls. Cant stress enough how awful they were. Even playing that game for the first time on the DS, it was weird trying to figure out how to play the game.
• Extra stars. Most of them were filler. Silver star collecting or switch stars. They just padded out the game so they could say there were more stars to collect. There are a few new sub areas compared to the original game but eh.
• Characters. Yoshi and Wario are useless besides the 1 or 2 stars you HAVE to get as them (one cant attack and one has awful maneuverability in a platformer). Mario is required for some sections just because you cant pick anyone else. Luigi is just broken with how high he can jump. You can only switch characters at the rec room which is annoying.
• Minigames. Eh, they were nothing special. I did spend some time on them but its hard to claim theyre anything other than the obligatory touch screen gimmick that DS games felt they had to include in the early years of the consoles life. AFAIK the Luigi ones were also removed from some international versions because of gambling.

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I remember people talking about how much better it looked compared to SM64, but the lack of texture filtering made it look awful imo.

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nfearurspecimn posted...

No. Not having analog control for that game is complete ass.

There was analog controls but you had to use the stylus for it
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HarryCaNab posted...

You were meant to play using the thumb strap on the touchscreen

Then the center of the touch "thumb stick" would move whenever you pulled on its edges. Whoever designed that was legitimately stupid. The 3DS analog stick at least made it playable for me.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Then the center of the touch "thumb stick" would move whenever you pulled on its edges. Whoever designed that was legitimately stupid. The 3DS analog stick at least made it playable for me.

The thumb strap that came with the DS Phat would scratch your screen so badly.


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I never had an issue with the controls, the extra levels are nice etc. But I hated the character swapping. In the original I go to a level and I can do whatever. I dont have to keep swapping etc.

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Rexdragon125 posted...

Then the center of the touch "thumb stick" would move whenever you pulled on its edges.

Not sure what you're talking about. I never had any problems with it.

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If Nintendo was smart, they would have included a spruced up 64 DS as well as Galaxy 2 and maybe even 3D Land in 3D All-Stars.

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DarkRoast posted...

The thumb strap that came with the DS Phat would scratch your screen so badly.

Didn't scratch my screen. I found it to be more gentle than the stylus too since it's so rounded.

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The controls are bad enough to kill that version all on its own but my hot take is also that I dont think the stuff they added really meshed well with the rest of the game. Mario 64 is a perfect sandbox as it is

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Remastering SM64 with a ground-up DS-mode addition would have been optimal. I'm still getting my copy today, but they could have done so much more.

• starting out as yoshi is kinda weird, but i like it too. it's clever you start out as him because he was sleeping on top of the castle and therefore avoided being captured. doesn't take long to unlock mario too. if it took like 50 stars to unlock mario, then that would be overdoing it.
• wario is the worst character in the game. not a fan of the "he can break this specific type of block" characters in any game. seems like a poor way to make the game look bigger than it really is.
• the controls are definitely worse than SM64. not much they could have done, there's only a D-Pad on the DS, so i think nintendo did the best they could with SM64DS.
• the mini games you unlock from catching the rabbits are a nice addition.
• there's more shit to do in this game than in the OG SM64. more stars to obtain, more characters, more stages.
• the graphics (in my opinion) are way better. mario looks like shit in OG SM64 in comparison to this game. bowser looks way better in this game too. like @DarkRoast said some of the textures are worse, but i like how colorful this game is.

IMO i think this game is super underrated. i believe it's a remake done right.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

If Nintendo was smart, they would have included a spruced up 64 DS as well as Galaxy 2 and maybe even 3D Land in 3D All-Stars.

Why would that be smart? Theyre making money with less effort expended this way

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Back in the day I used that accessory to turn the touch screen into an analog stick basically, which was pretty good from what I remember

I think it really scratched my DS' screen tho >_>

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Shouldve made the extra characters optional unlockables for new games or something

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Really wish Wario was better. The fact he only exists for breaking blocks makes this game feel like Donkey Kong 64 at times.

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pojr posted...

* starting out as yoshi is kinda weird, but i like it too. it's clever you start out as him because he was sleeping on top of the castle and therefore avoided being captured. doesn't take long to unlock mario too. if it took like 50 stars to unlock mario, then that would be overdoing it.
* wario is the worst character in the game. not a fan of the "he can break this specific type of block" characters in any game. seems like a poor way to make the game look bigger than it really is.
* the controls are definitely worse than SM64. not much they could have done, there's only a D-Pad on the DS, so i think nintendo did the best they could with SM64DS.
* the mini games you unlock from catching the rabbits are a nice addition.
* there's more shit to do in this game than in the OG SM64. more stars to obtain, more characters, more stages.
* the graphics (in my opinion) are way better. mario looks like shit in OG SM64 in comparison to this game. bowser looks way better in this game too. like @DarkRoast said some of the textures are worse, but i like how colorful this game is.
IMO i think this game is super underrated. i believe it's a remake done right.

The character switching is absolute garbage though. The new content is mostly underwhelming and tacked on,


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Starting as Yoshi makes it feel like Super Mario 64 1.5. You wouldn't want the DS version to be the first version of the game you played.

However Nintendo absolutely should have included the DS version as a New Game + feature on 3D All Stars.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Starting as Yoshi makes it feel like Super Mario 64 1.5. You wouldn't want the DS version to be the first version of the game you played.

As an SM64DS supporter, I can agree with this. SM64DS is best for people who have already played the original.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Starting as Yoshi makes it feel like Super Mario 64 1.5. You wouldn't want the DS version to be the first version of the game you played.

However Nintendo absolutely should have included the DS version as a New Game + feature on 3D All Stars.

I get that. Yoshi being the first character you play as is a bit off now I think about it some more assuming you're a new player.

64 DS being a New Game + is actually a brilliant compromise and makes me hate Nintendo's laziness even more. Galaxy 2 should also be included but that's another topic all together.

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