Current Events > So now people riot for shootings that are undeniably justified I guess?

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Grischnak
09/14/20 12:54:42 PM
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Of course I'm talking about the Lancaster riots. This is no George Floyd or even Jacob Blake situation. A crazy guy rushes a cop with a huge knife, gets shot and BLM riots because the cop was "trigger happy and racist". Because of course. Riots have been normalized to the point where the initial reaction is for people to riot even in situations where it makes no sense to riot. Sweet. So from now on whenever there's a shooting, even if it is completely 100% reasonable, countless innocent people and businesses are going to get their property destroyed because....racism or whatever. Delightful.
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Caution999
09/14/20 12:56:34 PM
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all cops are something, something...

is what they've been saying..so...

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monkmith
09/14/20 12:58:04 PM
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well hell, maybe this wouldn't be the case if we didn't have decades of evidence of cops getting away with blatant murder?

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Prismsblade
09/14/20 12:58:40 PM
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Some people at this point dont care about the details. If the headline states 'Black man beaten or killed' by police that's reason enough for them to go to arms.

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VipaGTS
09/14/20 12:59:12 PM
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Yea its stupid. But Riots are normalized because unjustified cases went unchecked for so long. Simple fix..."Yea, murders like Breonna Taylor and Tamir Rice aren't cool and those people should be facing consequences"....but for some reason that can't happen and it causes people to lose all hope in law enforcement in any situation.

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Annihilated
09/14/20 1:00:10 PM
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I told everyone five years ago that this would eventually happen, I told them five months ago that this would eventually happen, and I'm now I'm saying I told you so. It was never about black lives, it was always about abolishing police.
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MI4 REAL
09/14/20 1:00:49 PM
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How did Breaonna die, yet her boyfriend survive when he opened fire?

I can see WHY he would mistake them for intruders, but how did she die and not him?

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Null_Mime
09/14/20 1:02:04 PM
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Already happened in Chicago, when people were spreading around the rumors that some young kid being shot, before engaging in widespread looting and rioting. Then it turned out to actually be some 20 year old who pulled a gun on police.

This has never been about justice for them. Just a bunch of people looking for even the tiniest excuse to steal and cause mayhem. Even as early as the George Floyd riots, a man who was caught and arrested when looting a store admitted it was more about the money than George Floyd dying.


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thronedfire2
09/14/20 1:02:08 PM
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MI4 REAL posted...
How did Breaonna die, yet her boyfriend survive when he opened fire?

I can see WHY he would mistake them for intruders, but how did she die and not him?

probably because they were just shooting blindly through the house


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VipaGTS
09/14/20 1:02:16 PM
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Annihilated posted...
I told everyone five years ago that this would eventually happen, I told them five months ago that this would eventually happen, and I'm now I'm saying I told you so.

Yea, if only 5 years ago they stopped covering up for cops lying and started the process of fixing the system. you're 100% right.

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Annihilated
09/14/20 1:05:46 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Yea, if only 5 years ago they stopped covering up for cops lying and started the process of fixing the system. you're 100% right.

The same thing happened in the Michael Brown case and the evidence and witness testimonies backed it up. All this anti-cop hatred was based on a media lie and many others since.
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VipaGTS
09/14/20 1:06:04 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Honestly its not simple at all to get the public to trust the police even if they start doing things right. Problems that have existed for this long dont leave cultural consciousness very easily.
the overall perception won't be easily changed, but the first steps are simple. stop covering up for lies and clean house. give people a reason to trust cops. when you have murderers in uniform lying in reports and getting let off without even a slap on the wrist people are going to lose trust. it takes time to build trust back, but further breaking that trust won't help matters.

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josifrees
09/14/20 1:06:52 PM
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Cops used up all their trust killing innocent people, if they did their jobs without abusing their power they wouldnt have protests for doing the job correctly

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VipaGTS
09/14/20 1:07:33 PM
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Annihilated posted...
The same thing happened in the Michael Brown case and the evidence and witness testimonies backed it up. All this anti-cop hatred was based on a media lie and many others since.
you act like this is an issue that just started 10 years ago. this is decades worth of unchecked abuse and decades worth of the police turning into a gang. No, not all cops are part of that gang, but the system doesn't allow those cops to stop the gang.

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MI4 REAL
09/14/20 1:10:47 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
probably because they were just shooting blindly through the house

That sounds better than the official story.

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Tyranthraxus
09/14/20 1:13:25 PM
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Grischnak posted...
Riots have been normalized

Riots have been normalized because cops made killing innocent people normalized.


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MI4 REAL
09/14/20 1:16:43 PM
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Pieces do not fit.

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Number090684
09/14/20 1:21:15 PM
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Agreed TC. Fucking ridiculous. The cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't, even if they are justified. Fucking piece of shit rioters are likely long time deviant lowlives / criminals that need to be brought to heel by any means necessary.

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Annihilated
09/14/20 1:25:32 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
you act like this is an issue that just started 10 years ago. this is decades worth of unchecked abuse and decades worth of the police turning into a gang. No, not all cops are part of that gang, but the system doesn't allow those cops to stop the gang.

Even if you want to go that route, there is no data that supports that narrative. Police kill about 1,000 people every year, in the whole country, total. That is not a big number. And most of those killings were at least somewhat justified. A quarter of the people killed were black (last year only 14 were unarmed), but that's because they largely live in cities and most crime tends to happen in urban areas. There are 12,000 police departments, half a million cops, and over 60 million police interactions per year in the country, and you're trying to tell me that they're murdering people everywhere and covering it up?
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Number090684
09/14/20 1:26:18 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Riots have been normalized because cops made killing innocent people normalized.

Nah, while a lot of cops have abused their power and abused / murdered minorities for far too long a lot of these riots have nothing to do with opposing the corrupt "justice" system, systemic, institutionalized racism, or even reparations. These rioters aren't doing what they do to survive or anything remotely just, they are just greedy animals that want anything remotely resembling a excuse to try and justify acting like fucking thugs and being able to benefit from it. Fuck the rioters and their supporters. I've got no love for the government either, but they've got us all in shackles and there isn't much we can do without a lot of money and potentially throwing our lives as "free" men away.

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PoundGarden
09/14/20 1:26:34 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Honestly its not simple at all to get the public to trust the police even if they start doing things right. Problems that have existed for this long dont leave cultural consciousness very easily.

Honestly this. I will NEVER trust or respect the police, or the broken "justice" system that allows them to basically do whatever they want consequence free. They did that to themselves. The police no longer get the privilege of the benefit of the doubt.
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ZMythos
09/14/20 1:29:16 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Agreed TC. Fucking ridiculous. The cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't, even if they are justified. Fucking piece of shit rioters are likely long time deviant lowlives / criminals that need to be brought to heel by any means necessary.
Shut the fuck up.

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Number090684
09/14/20 1:29:38 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Shut the fuck up.

Make me motherfucker.

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monkmith
09/14/20 1:30:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8_eEzSO6c&feature=youtu.be

georgia supreme court hearing a fun case about 3 cops tasing a man to death. they'll get off, because even if the supreme court finds the charges valid the case will be sent back to the lower court judge who said they were just doing their job; the cops will ask for a bench trial and it'll get hand waved away.

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Bishop9800
09/14/20 1:32:12 PM
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Annihilated posted...

I told everyone five years ago that this would eventually happen, I told them five months ago that this would eventually happen, and I'm now I'm saying I told you so.


Amd people still don't give a fuck about what you said.

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AlephZero
09/14/20 1:32:56 PM
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The only people looting are those that need to feed their families. And property is insured, so nobody is hurt by it.

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MI4 REAL
09/14/20 1:33:22 PM
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here is the problem.

There are good and bad seeds on both sides.


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monkmith
09/14/20 1:34:23 PM
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AlephZero posted...
The only people looting are those that need to feed their families. And property is insured, so nobody is hurt by it.
good chunk of the looters are just assholes from out of state taking advantage. even more funny, a good chunk of the looters actually arrested are redneck republicans...

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monkmith
09/14/20 1:35:32 PM
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MI4 REAL posted...
here is the problem.

There are good and bad seeds on both sides.
well on the protesters side, the 'bad seed' eventually gets identified and arrested.

on the cops side, the 'bad seed' gets reshuffled back into circulation.

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Number090684
09/14/20 1:36:18 PM
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monkmith posted...
good chunk of the looters are just assholes from out of state taking advantage. even more funny, a good chunk of the looters actually arrested are redneck republicans...

Absolutely not surprised.

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Smackems
09/14/20 1:37:12 PM
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Rioters are what we would call.. I'd get modded if I said it so let's go with really really really stupid

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Bishop9800
09/14/20 1:38:47 PM
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monkmith posted...
good chunk of the looters are just assholes from out of state taking advantage. even more funny, a good chunk of the looters actually arrested are redneck republicans...


But black people are getting the blame.....

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Number090684
09/14/20 1:43:38 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
But black people are getting the blame.....

Of course, because probably most of them are associated with BLM or BLM protests in some way.

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archedsoul
09/14/20 1:44:50 PM
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Lmao. Rioting is a sheltered white people thing tbh. Like a power fantasy.

Notice how there's barely any black people in these rioting videos and it's mostly white people that justify and support rioting.

You'll see black people in Walmart or Target looting for like 10 minutes and then getting the fuck out of there and going home. Looting major corporations isn't even that big an issue.

At the end of the day, white people have hijacked BLM and are just making us look worse and worse with their antics.

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Number090684
09/14/20 1:47:52 PM
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archedsoul posted...
Lmao. Rioting is a sheltered white people thing tbh. Like a power fantasy.

Notice how there's barely any black people in these rioting videos and it's mostly white people that justify and support rioting.

You'll see black people in Walmart or Target looting for like 10 minutes and then getting the fuck out of there and going home. Looting major corporations isn't even that big an issue.

At the end of the day, white people have hijacked BLM and are just making us look worse and worse with their antics.

Nah, that's not entirely true. I've seen tons of black people, probably more than those from other racial backgrounds) in most recent vandalizing / looting videos. To say or imply that A LOT of black people weren't involved with criminal activity surrounding the riots is wrong.

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MI4 REAL
09/14/20 1:48:48 PM
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This is no longer a race issue.

Don't you get it?

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Bishop9800
09/14/20 1:50:15 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Of course, because probably most of them are associated with BLM or BLM protests in some way.


Really? Im sure you have a source on this do you?

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archedsoul
09/14/20 1:50:39 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Nah, I've seen tons of black people in most recent vandalizing / looting videos. To say or imply that a lot of black people weren't involved with criminal activity surrounding the riots is wrong.
I didn't say they weren't involved in criminal activity. In fact, I pointed out that they are looting while white people are burning shit down.

Yes, there will always some there, but most of the videos are like 90% white and 10% black.

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Grischnak
09/14/20 2:35:53 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
People are past the point of believing cops even when cops arent lying. I guess generations of chickens are coming home to roost?

Chickens are coming home to roost by attacking innocents businesses/people? Even if you're the type that thinks that literally all cops deserve to die, how does that justify rioting? If a cop fucks me over does give me the right to rob your house? Because that seems to be the world you want.
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ThanksUglyGod
09/14/20 2:54:24 PM
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That sucks, but what're you gonna do?
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