Current Events > Sad that marvel turned Thanos into a weak / pushover generic villain in End Game

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Infinity War Thanos was methodical, psychopath, and on path to become the greatest villain of all time and he accomplished what he intended do . Took on every single member of the avengers and only had one single drop of blood/scratch on him by the time he snapped his fingers.

End Game Thanos was a weak / generic villain and looked nothing like Infinity War Thanos. Marvel wrecked him for their bs fan service. Barely had any onscreen time too and killed him twice .


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Yeah he was a letdown in Endgame after what we saw from him in Infinity War.

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Nah.

"b-b-b-but he had amazing feats in Endgame!"

I'm with you TC. One of the GOAT superhero villain appearances in IW and a lame appearance in Endgame.

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there was a LOT going on in Endgame, so it's a miracle that it turned out as well as it did rather than a clusterfuck

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Endgame probably would have been better served if it was split into two parts

Maybe then it wouldn't have felt so rushed and the characters would have had more development

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I don't understand why he has super human strength without the infinity glove.
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merc1231 posted...

only had one single drop of blood/scratch on him by the time he snapped his fingers.

also a giant hole

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The best thing I can say for Endgame is that it's a nice emotional sendoff. But if you dig into the plot or think on it too hard, it kinda sucks. I also didn't like some of the character stuff that they did (Hulk and Thor).

Haven't seen it since opening night, that's just my recollection of it.

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He already had stones in his possession at the start of infinity war. He had none in Endgame. The power gap makes complete sense.

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maybe it's because I didn't like Thanos in Infinity War (Josh Brolin did a good job, though), so maybe that's why how he was portrayed in Endgame didn't bother me.

and he was still whooping people in Endgame, and felt like a legitimate threat; he just wasn't touching enraged Scarlet Witch

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You could argue the heroes were more prepared and Thanos didnt have any of the stones.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

I don't understand why he has super human strength without the infinity glove.

He's already insanely strong without the glove or gems. I guess in the logic of the movies, he wasn't really trying too hard in Infinity War. But in Endgame, when he tries, he can run through guys.

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merc1231 posted...

only had one single drop of blood/scratch on him by the time he snapped his fingers.

Are we ignoring the gaping chest wound Thor gave him?


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tommybel89 posted...

He's already insanely strong without the glove or gems. I guess in the logic of the movies, he wasn't really trying too hard in Infinity War. But in Endgame, when he tries, he can run through guys.

yeah, in IW he was mostly toying with them

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Shablagoo posted...

Yeah he was a letdown in Endgame after what we saw from him in Infinity War.

Ikr, dude went from cutting the universe population in half cuz he genuinely wanted to ensure that the other half had a fighting chance at survival to "hurr durr imma kill everyone lol"

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That was kind of the point though. Endgame Thanos is from 2014. He is 5 years younger than IW Thanos.

IW Thanos was a man on a mission and didnt fight unless he had too and mercy. He discards his armor as well.

Endgame Thanos was still a warmonger and was not tempered by the journey he had to go through to get the Stones.

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iirc, in IW, he also wasn't trying to kill any of the named characters until Gamora and Vision, and that was only for the stones

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My one complaint with Endgame was that I wished they incorporated Thanos better, and somehow kept the Thanos from the original timeline that we saw in Infinity War. The way we got Thanos from 2013 was purely there for plot device, and had no connection to the storyline, it just felt hollow.

However I haven't really thought of a good or convincing way to incorporate Thanos better either lol so I understand why it was written that way.

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ChrisTaka posted...

Ikr, dude went from cutting the universe population in half cuz he genuinely wanted to ensure that the other half had a fighting chance at survival to "hurr durr imma kill everyone lol"

Are movie watchers this stupid?

Endgame Thanos LITERALLY saw IW Thanos win, get killed, and have everything he did reversed.

No shit hes going to be pissed to see that his gift to the galaxy was pushed away in disrespectful fashion. AND Endgame Thanos has experienced no betrayals or death of his followers yet.

Its literally the same character.

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pretty sure he enjoys testing his feats of strength.

in IW against hulk without the use of glove and him strength checking cap at the end.
in endgame him vs the 3 when he could just have sent his huge army from the start and get the stones.

it's a personality trait made apparent when "fake" nebula goes back to thanos and tells him they expected nothing and thanos replies with "the arrogant never do".. not knowing that he's including himself since he obviously didn't expect the portals backup.

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cuttin_in_farm posted...

Its literally the same character.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Endgame Thanos LITERALLY saw IW Thanos win

You just contradicted yourself lol

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IW Thanos was an axe throw off by 3-4 feet from having his career ended before he snapped his fingers and just toyed around with his opponents.

Endgame Thanos was able to piece together time travel out of the blue while doing typical warmonger things and also handled a new OP character (Captain Marvel) by outsmarting her 3 minutes after she showed up. The Avengers had 5 years of planning and still barely won at the end.

I'm not seeing how Endgame Thanos was a disappointment

Also all of the below. Marvel movies aren't Shakespeare plays and it's pretty easy to understand the change in motivations

cuttin_in_farm posted... Are movie watchers this stupid?

Endgame Thanos LITERALLY saw IW Thanos win, get killed, and have everything he did reversed.

No shit hes going to be pissed to see that his gift to the galaxy was pushed away in disrespectful fashion. AND Endgame Thanos has experienced no betrayals or death of his followers yet.

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merc1231 posted...

Infinity War Thanos was methodical, psychopath, and on path to become the greatest villain of all time and he accomplished what he intended do .

I dont think being arbitrarily stronger than the hero gallery really qualifies as a GOAT villain contender. His goals are about as coherent as Ultron's.

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ChrisTaka posted...

You just contradicted yourself lol

IW Thanos is Endgame Thanos in the future.

Its the same guy. Wtf?

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Whats really sad is that they didn't keep him as a sad beta simp.

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

The Avengers had 5 years of planning and still barely won at the end.

No they didnt. The time travel plot happened in a few days after the time skip and 2014 Thanos was an unseen variable.

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

IW Thanos was an axe throw off by 3-4 feet from having his career ended before he snapped his fingers and just toyed around with his opponents.

Endgame Thanos was able to piece together time travel out of the blue while doing typical warmonger things and also handled a new OP character (Captain Marvel) by outsmarting her 3 minutes after she showed up. The Avengers had 5 years of planning and still barely won at the end.

I'm not seeing how Endgame Thanos was a disappointment

Also all of the below. Marvel movies aren't Shakespeare plays and it's pretty easy to understand the change in motivations

the Thor hit was when Thanos got all of the stones and let his guard down.

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cuttin_in_farm posted...

IW Thanos is Endgame Thanos in the future.

Its the same guy. Wtf?

It's the same person on a basic level, yes. But all it takes is for one event to change a person's "character". As you said yourself Endgame Thanos already saw himself lose and know everything that was gonna happen, all it took was that one scene for him to change his overall plan, change how he approached the Avengers, and his whole demeanor as a whole. So while yes IW Thanos and Endgame Thanos are "the same guy" they are two different characters.

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And hulks nerdy shrek and thors fat and sad!

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ChrisTaka posted...

It's the same person on a basic level, yes. But all it takes is for one event to change a person's "character". As you said yourself Endgame Thanos already saw himself lose and know everything that was gonna happen, all it took was that one scene for him to change his overall plan, change how he approached the Avengers, and his whole demeanor as a whole. So while yes IW Thanos and Endgame Thanos are "the same guy" they are two different characters.

And him just turning generic evil upon learning this really really ruined him.

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ChrisTaka posted...

It's the same person on a basic level, yes. But all it takes is for one event to change a person's "character". As you said yourself Endgame Thanos already saw himself lose and know everything that was gonna happen, all it took was that one scene for him to change his overall plan, change how he approached the Avengers, and his whole demeanor as a whole. So while yes IW Thanos and Endgame Thanos are "the same guy" they are two different characters.

One event

I ask again.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Are movie watchers this stupid?

It wasnt one event. It was IW Thanos that was changed, first off. Endgame Thanos had the same plan as IW Thanos. Only difference is that the half that is left woyld be recreated instead of left to their own devices.

They acted the exact same. IW Thanos acted differently towards Wanda because he lost Gamora. He acted differently towards Tony because hes learned and dealt with his presence for years.

What difference? IW Thanos came to Wakanda, talked to no one, wrecked everyone, and did his shit. He also sent his underlings to retrieve most of the stones.

Endgame Thanos did the exact same shit. Sent his underlings (Nebula) to do some heavy lifting while he comes in later to wreck the Avengers.

Same character.

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