Poll of the Day > Trump admin accused of siphoning funds from 9/11 fund

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Jen0125
09/11/20 12:04:33 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-911-fund-treasury-department-world-trade-center-anniversary-b421982.html

Sinking sinking lower

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Phantom_Nook
09/11/20 12:52:25 PM
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Republicans will worship him even harder now. Good job, Jen.
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BlackScythe0
09/11/20 1:10:48 PM
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It's like he is on a mission to outdo himself every day leading up to election.
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rjsilverthorn
09/11/20 1:35:05 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's like he is on a mission to outdo himself every day leading up to election.
This one just makes no sense even for Trump. Fireman and police are in his target demographic and he loves to hold up 9/11 to justify his anti-muslim immigration agenda. The money involved is also peanuts from a government spending perspective so it is hardly worth the negative exposure.
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Far-Queue
09/11/20 1:38:10 PM
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Love to see them explain this one, and then watch his braindead supporters swallow the steaming bullshit like it's warm oatmeal and continue to support him

Shit is beyond sad. Absolutely pathetic

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BlackScythe0
09/11/20 1:38:43 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
This one just makes no sense even for Trump. Fireman and police are in his target demographic and he loves to hold up 9/11 to justify his anti-muslim immigration agenda. The money involved is also peanuts from a government spending perspective so it is hardly worth the negative exposure.

So your failure here is trying to apply the logic and reasoning of a rational person. Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself and legitimately does not understand how people can question anything he does. Like when Nixon said "It's not illegal if the president does it"
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Fierce_Deity_08
09/11/20 1:41:15 PM
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Oh look, another fake story that has no evidence of truth.

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Jen0125
09/11/20 1:52:11 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Oh look, another fake story that has no evidence of truth.

Yawn

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BlackScythe0
09/11/20 1:54:08 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Oh look, another fake story that has no evidence of truth.

Trump demands blind faith and devotion. The republican party has become a cult.
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deoxxys
09/11/20 2:35:00 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump demands blind faith and devotion. The republican party has become a cult.
I mean I dont give a damn about Trump myself, but I see these kind of stories coming out on the regular since he was elected. "Trumps did X, Trump did Y, Trump made me put three teaspoons of sugar in my coffee!" How many of these stories are actually verified?

Alternatively, why have blind faith that he DID do X or Y?

I would think truth is preferably over fairytales, but that is just me.

Reason for saying this is where as I do see people with blind devotion for Trump, just as much I see blind hate.

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OniRonin
09/11/20 2:39:04 PM
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It's kind of misleading to solely blame the trump admin for this since it started under obama

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Mead
09/11/20 2:40:08 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Oh look, another fake story that has no evidence of truth.

he literally already got caught stealing money in NY from a cancer charity for children

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OniRonin
09/11/20 2:40:24 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I mean I dont give a damn about Trump myself, but I see these kind of stories coming out on the regular since he was elected. "Trumps did X, Trump did Y, Trump made me put three teaspoons of sugar in my coffee!" How many of these stories are actually verified?

Alternatively, why have blind faith that he DID do X or Y?

I would think truth is preferably over fairytales, but that is just me.

Reason for saying this is where as I do see people with blind devotion for Trump, just as much I see blind hate.
The ny daily news article quotes the director of the program. Do you think he's lying about not getting the funds? Where are they going?

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papercup
09/11/20 2:43:08 PM
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Literally does not matter how low he sinks, his worshippers will defend him.

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adjl
09/11/20 2:45:31 PM
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OniRonin posted...
It's kind of misleading to solely blame the trump admin for this since it started under obama

And if there's one thing Trump's supporters agree on, it's that Trump couldn't possibly change anything Obama did wrong.

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Arcturusisnow
09/11/20 2:45:45 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I mean I dont give a damn about Trump myself, but I see these kind of stories coming out on the regular since he was elected. "Trumps did X, Trump did Y, Trump made me put three teaspoons of sugar in my coffee!" How many of these stories are actually verified?

Alternatively, why have blind faith that he DID do X or Y?

I would think truth is preferably over fairytales, but that is just me.

Reason for saying this is where as I do see people with blind devotion for Trump, just as much I see blind hate.
Because he has bankrupted an insane amount of business ventures and thus it makes perfect sense he would do this kind of thing because he is a complete dumbass with less brains than a peanut?
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Arcturusisnow
09/11/20 2:46:55 PM
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OniRonin posted...
It's kind of misleading to solely blame the trump admin for this since it started under obama
Evidence please that Obama did anything like this.
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Phantom_Nook
09/11/20 2:47:16 PM
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Mead posted...
he literally already got caught stealing money in NY from a cancer charity for children

you'll never get a response.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
09/11/20 3:11:39 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
Evidence please that Obama did anything like this.
You wont get any. Pretty sure this is another Zeus alt.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
09/11/20 3:25:06 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's like he is on a mission to outdo himself every day leading up to election.
In the lead up to the 2016 election, I saw someone post this on Twitter:

Satan: "So tomorrow, you have to...kick a dog."
Trump: "Fine. I'm a tremendous dog kicker."
Satan: "I'm really running out of ideas here."

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OniRonin
09/11/20 3:37:12 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
Evidence please that Obama did anything like this.
it's in the origianl article, which the independent article links to. It's probably a good idea if you want to be a critical consumer of news to read the original sources for information. There's a lot of fake and misleading news out there

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-fdny-911-health-program-treasury-20200910-s7yam67j6vhmhbdzg6ordanfdm-story.html


Prezant said he was docked about half a million dollars each year in 2016 and 2017. Then it crept up to about $630,000 in 2018 and 2019. This year, Treasury has nearly tripled its extractions, diverting $1.447 million through late August, according to Prezant.



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OniRonin
09/11/20 3:37:29 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
You wont get any. Pretty sure this is another Zeus alt.
lol

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OniRonin
09/11/20 3:39:35 PM
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adjl posted...
And if there's one thing Trump's supporters agree on, it's that Trump couldn't possibly change anything Obama did wrong.
yes the trump administration is bad. they are even worse than the obama administration. this is one of many great examples of how trump has accelerated a bad policy that was initiated under the obama admin.

i always forget that neurotypical people will assume i love trump unless i explicitly spell this out any time i criticize a news article's slant or any former president.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
09/11/20 3:43:18 PM
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OniRonin posted...
they are even worse than the obama administration.
So youre intentionally choosing to ignore George H.W. and W?

OniRonin posted...
this is one of many great examples of how trump has accelerated a bad policy that was initiated under the obama admin.
Citations or gtfo.

OniRonin posted...
i always forget that neurotypical people will assume i love trump unless i explicitly spell this out any time i criticize a news article's slant or any former president.
You havent spelled anything out. You typed out a personal opinion.

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Blightzkrieg
09/11/20 3:47:15 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I mean I dont give a damn about Trump myself, but I see these kind of stories coming out on the regular since he was elected. "Trumps did X, Trump did Y, Trump made me put three teaspoons of sugar in my coffee!" How many of these stories are actually verified?

Alternatively, why have blind faith that he DID do X or Y?

I would think truth is preferably over fairytales, but that is just me.

Reason for saying this is where as I do see people with blind devotion for Trump, just as much I see blind hate.
This is just as bad as calling Science a religion, come the fuck on.

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OniRonin
09/11/20 3:56:35 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
So youre intentionally choosing to ignore George H.W. and W?

what? yes, i guess i am intentionally ignoring the bushes, just like im intentionally ignoring john quincy adams, herbert hoover, and fidel castro. because they weren't relevant to the point i am making. what does "the trump administration is even worse than the obama administration" have to do with the bushes? do you want my full ranking of every president?

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
OniRonin posted...
this is one of many great examples of how trump has accelerated a bad policy that was initiated under the obama admin.
Citations or gtfo.

I probably sohuld have said "this is one of many great examples of how trump has expanded a bad policy that was created or expanded under the obama admin." since most of the best examples are things obama expanded that trump expanded even more.

but a great example of that is drone strikes. This article is a pretty basic intro to the topic:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/opinion/drones-civilian-casulaties-trump-obama.html

another good example is devestating economic sanctions on venezuela
https://www.dw.com/en/the-human-cost-of-the-us-sanctions-on-venezuela/a-50647399

massive increases in deportations
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

I am not going to pull quotes out of these for you,because I think you should learn to read the whole article and its sources (and ideally find other articles as well) if you want to understand a topic

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
You havent spelled anything out. You typed out a personal opinion.
i spelled out my personal opinion, because otherwise people seem to assume i love trump

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GGuirao13
09/11/20 4:46:56 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's like he is on a mission to outdo himself every day leading up to election.
It's career suicide, which I'm all in for. It's just a shame he's taking so many people down with him.

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ClarkDuke
09/11/20 6:45:11 PM
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OniRonin posted...

fart
at least try to hide whose alt you are, ok?

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OniRonin
09/11/20 7:36:23 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
at least try to hide whose alt you are, ok?
'everyone who disagrees with me is the same person'

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ClarkDuke
09/11/20 9:25:02 PM
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OniRonin posted...
'everyone who disagrees with me is the same person'
thank you, i've managed to get you to say that on all your accounts now, ok?

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Sahuagin
09/11/20 11:53:24 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
swallow the steaming bullshit like it's warm oatmeal
ew

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BlackScythe0
09/12/20 1:15:30 AM
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GGuirao13 posted...
It's career suicide, which I'm all in for. It's just a shame he's taking so many people down with him.

I wish it was. But more of his supporters are likely to go "Well fuck new yorkers, coastal elite liberals!"
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
09/12/20 2:22:12 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
thank you, i've managed to get you to say that on all your accounts now, ok?
Lmao.

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