Board 8 > PSA - FFCC Remastered for Switch is (Nuclear) Flaming Garbage

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https://mobile.twitter.com/MOOMANiBE/status/1298687349115637760

Grimlyn posted...

there's no bottom to the online problems

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/9566664.html

bullet-point translations from ERA:
- Only host gets progress from dungeons.
- Load times are long.
- You have to remake the party every time you go to a different dungeon (can stay in the current one to rerun the same one though).
- DLC weapons seem to be stronger than ultimate weapons in the original game.
- Servers aren't handling the load that well.
- Cutscenes can't be skipped.

wtf bolded -_-... it's so sad that the whole excitement of this game was to finally make this multi-player focused game that relied on link cables for multiplayer finally accessible to play... but we get all this crap

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Also, One step closer to the Crash etc.

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This is the biggest case of ermineluck ever

Please everyone feel bad for me and my favorite game ever getting totally fucked

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Do we have confirmation this is a Switch only issue? Nothing on here seems like it's relegated to just switch, even the friend code thing seems. Like it's proprietary in game.

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Actually I missed this was PS4 and mobile also...Im assuming all these problems are hitting all platforms.

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I will say it's very considerate of square to ensure FFCC is just a single weekend project to make sure we're finished up before Tony Hawk hits next weekend

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here's hoping it gets patched to be better. =/

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game loaded aww yeah here i go

huh Sound of the Wind Remastered neat... my FFCC lovin' self is loving this cinematic sequence nostalgia tho can't help it

I don't see any reason at all this would be Switch-only, considering the crossplay

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this was not the stiltzkin voice I was expecting

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the game to buy on your switch tonight is hypnospace outlaw btw

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Zigzagoon posted...

This is the biggest case of ermineluck ever

Please everyone feel bad for me and my favorite game ever getting totally fucked

I loved Crystal Chronicles for the Gamecube, so this is heartbreaking for me as well.

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If you didn't struggle to get all your friends link cables and SP's to play this back in the day you don't deserve to play this game

The last time I played this game with a group of friends was a few years ago, and we managed to do it by jerry rigging four instances of a GBA emulator positioned to the corners of a TV while linking to a Dolphin window in the center. It was a nightmare both to configure and control, and we were really looking forward to this remaster but somehow it sounds like our mega-jank solution was still better than what we ended up with here.

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alright trying to see how online works right now so finally opened the friends list...

30-minute friend code things was pretty misleading I think? There appears to be a standard permanent "Invite Code", but then also a One-Time FC that resets in 30 minutes you can choose to use instead. They are separate things so you don't need to reset every 30 it's just an option for I guess like spreading online only to available players on at the time, kinda makes sense.

but who knows i have no friends so i can't be definitive in these statements

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GuessMyUserName posted...

but who knows i have no friends

You just gotta put yourself out there. I'm sure they want to be your friend just as much. And if they don't see how special you are, then they aren't worth being friends with anyway.

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guess i'll try this Multi play thing see how it goes

I start it and I'm just like in a lobby before the dungeon starts, and I can ready..... I guess I'll do that and just wait for people to join? *Readys*

oh wait what the dungeon is starting now crap *exits to try again*

.... > Lobbies cannot be created in quick succession

noooOOOoOOooOoOOoo

*waits a couple minutes and tries again*... okay, this time I won't ready right away, I'll wait for the matchmaking

*minutes go by with nobody joining, connection times out and my dungeon closes*

aagrgghr whatttt

okay what else is there..... Set Out Together? it sounds like it's for parties but I guess I should see... oh, so this is also where you can Host & Recruit, Join Open Lobby, or Quickmatch/Jump into a game........... so people can join into your games while you're in the middle of it eh, I'll just try that and set out for river belle path

oh hey i'm in a game brb

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okay i am happy to be in a full 4-player multi FFCC dungeon :D

I guess all item drops are available to everyone? for a while I was trying to stay back and let others take them but from my perspective they just walked towards it and moved on without taking so I was confused thinking the items were left behind and I felt greedy always grabbing them in the end lmao.... but eventually it clued in to me that okay they all must be getting their own copies that's good. Spell drops are still singular tho, otherwise everyone having everything would be a bit wild

then we get artifact selections in the end aww yeah 4-player... I came in last I take it because I was the last joiner while they were already a bit through the dungeon, but tbf I wasn't aiming for my mission much (focus attacks)

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So basically it's exactly the same but with online multi-player but no other QoL improvements?

I really wanna know what was going on behind the scenes with this game. I still think it's litethe dumbest thing in the world that this game doesn't have local multi-player though.

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Xiahou Shake posted...

The last time I played this game with a group of friends was a few years ago, and we managed to do it by jerry rigging four instances of a GBA emulator positioned to the corners of a TV while linking to a Dolphin window in the center. It was a nightmare both to configure and control, and we were really looking forward to this remaster but somehow it sounds like our mega-jank solution was still better than what we ended up with here.

Did you all finish it?

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Waluigi1 posted...

So basically it's exactly the same but with online multi-player but no other QoL improvements?

there's 13 new post-game dungeons

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redrocket posted...

Did you all finish it?

Nope! Hilariously enough we stopped in the middle when they announced the remaster. We figured waiting for it would have to be better than the hodge-podge solution we were using. We're all laughing about it now realizing how much better off we would have been just continuing with what we were doing.

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Waluigi1 posted...

So basically it's exactly the same but with online multi-player but no other QoL improvements?

I really wanna know what was going on behind the scenes with this game. I still think it's litethe dumbest thing in the world that this game doesn't have local multi-player though.

It's actually much much worse than that. If the online multiplayer played like local did back on the GC, this would be SO much better.

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This is really sad. Dammit, square

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having a caravan of characters and then remembering there's no local to play with them ever is indeed sad :(

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I feel like they have to patch this to fix some of the online stuff

...Right?

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The 13 dungeons thing is just a reskinned hard mode for all the existing dungeons, btw. Just so you're emotionally prepared if you were expecting something else.

those times when you can't get disappoint anymore only laugh

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Load times being worse than gamecube is the biggest downside for me at the moment.

I will say I like the new menu system better. I'm not fluent with it yet, but I'll get there. The storage moogle in your home village is neat. I generally enjoy the new look of things. Voices are a bit odd.

While this is disappointing, misreading the topic title has given me a new band name.

Watch out for Nuclear Flamingo Garage hitting the top 10 any day now.
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The fact they delayed release so much and shipped a product where you can't even share a multi-player adventure is actually just mind boggling the more I think about it.

but not as mind-boggling (in a good way) as the radical sounds of Nuclear Flamingo Garage!

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True!

I'm hearing that once you've unlocked the hard mode dungeons, you can only create a multiplayer lobby for 4 of them, and they're on rotation every x days or something?

Haven't fact checked but this is just getting weird.

turbopuns3 posted...

I'm hearing that once you've unlocked the hard mode dungeons, you can only create a multiplayer lobby for 4 of them, and they're on rotation every x days or something?

Haven't fact checked but this is just getting weird.

Real talk.

Like, actually real talk.

Am I the only one who is starting to think this project was ORIGINALLY developed as Crystal Chronicles Mobile, and was shoehorned into being an HD rerelease, resulting in the fucked up dev time?

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huh Sherlotta is a Yuke mimic

... why not... have Amidatelion for Yuke rep

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Am I the only one who is starting to think this project was ORIGINALLY developed as Crystal Chronicles Mobile, and was shoehorned into being an HD rerelease, resulting in the fucked up dev time?

After a couple hours playtime, I'd buy this

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but...why

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https://twitter.com/ChaseFaceShow/status/1298959643612532736

I'm telling you, it's because this was mobile first.

It makes the time sensitive dungeons make complete sense. I would bet money that the DLC items being so powerful is because they were originally planning on implimenting some kind of equipment gacha. The "Bonus Dungeons" are reskins because they were originally just higher difficulty versions with better rewards that required some kind of in game currency to access.

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... daily dungeons is the most mobile thing ever when you think about it

wow this is starting to make sense and if I really think about it a FFCC mobile game could actually work but my god not this

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And while youre all chilling out by the pool listening to some totally radical tunes, dont forget to chug down an ice cold lemonberry splash, the official drink of Nuclear Flamingo Garage!

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turbopuns3 posted...

https://twitter.com/ChaseFaceShow/status/1298959643612532736

Honestly I don't mind this. Keeps people from accidentally deleting characters then whining about it online, and could potentially prevent little brother griefing. If Pokemon Silver had done this I would've been able to stop my brother from deleting my 252 save instead of catching him right after the fact.

The rest of this trashfire though...ooof.

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I don't think the long delete is a negative, I just find the video hilarious

I don't mind them making deleting characters a bit slow as a safety mechanism. But that wait time is a bit excessive. I'm tempted to go try how long it takes to clobber an entire save file with a save from a different game. It would be amusing if it's still like 1 dialogue box asking if you are sure.
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So I never played the original but I have one important question:

Why are there big tiddied characters with jiggle physics in this game?

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I'll probably be able to start this tomorrow night

Maybe I willjust buy one of the DLC weapons to make it go as quickly as possible @_@

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Apparently the DLC weapons make the game completely unfun and are end game weapons.

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I am aware

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Zigzagoon posted...

It's actually much much worse than that. If the online multiplayer played like local did back on the GC, this would be SO much better.

What's so bad about the online?

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