Current Events > America is NOT "fucked"

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Six months ago, America was the greatest nation in human history. Depending on what happens in november, it will be again!

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gotta rub down dem hairy legs

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Whose alt

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If America is already great why do we need to make it great again?

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America was never truly great unless you were rich.

And like old money rich. Not "I struck gold with a business idea" rich barring obvious exceptions like Zuckerberg.

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180,000+ dead Americans and millions out of a job isn't my definition of America being great.

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nuggetg posted...

Six months ago, America was the greatest nation in human history

no it wasn't. no nation in history has yet to ever match the glory that was the Roman Empire

America has been ass for people of color for most of it's existence.

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nuggetg posted...

Six months ago, America was the greatest nation in human history

hhaaahhahaa

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https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

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Citation needed

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I know CE is comedy but I still think I'll leave this here anyway.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/12/12/u-s-children-more-likely-than-children-in-other-countries-to-live-with-just-one-parent/

https://www.insider.com/murder-rates-are-rising-in-cities-across-america-2020-5

https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-wait-in-long-lines-at-food-banks-amid-coronavirus-2020-4?op=1

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Zikten posted...

no it wasn't. no nation in history has yet to ever match the glory that was the Roman Empire

the roman empire paled in comparison to its contemporary, han china, with respect to economic output, population, and territory

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Rome though spread it's culture more than the Han did, didn't they? Rome has influenced the entire world more than Han Empire did down through the ages to modern day

Zikten posted...

Rome though spread it's culture more than the Han did, didn't they? Rome has influenced the entire world more than Han Empire did down through the ages to modern day

If by "the entire world" you mean "Europe and the Near East", yes. If by the "entire world", you mean "the entire world", I assume you count Korea, Tibet, SE Asia, Japan, and the countless tribes and nomadic peoples on Han China's periphery. They even controlled a chunk of Central Asia for a time. At its greatest extent, it controlled ~6.5 million sq. km.(2.5 million sq. mi), which about 1.5 million sq. km.(600,000 sq. mi) more than the Roman empire. China was also already way more populous than Europe.

Okay, pedantry over. America is probably doomed, and the only question is how we'll die and how fast it'll happen.
We can probably rule out steppe nomads as a contributing factor though.

I mean not just the territory they ruled in their day, but the impact of their legacy on the planet. Rome has impacted Earth culture more than the Han did.

it's pretty fucked and it's only gonna get worse.

Get armed if you're not

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We need more antifa sjws to make our country great again.

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Nah. Trump fucked this country without lube.

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Zikten posted...

Rome though spread it's culture more than the Han did, didn't they? Rome has influenced the entire world more than Han Empire did down through the ages to modern day

roman culture was highly derivative, in particular deriving its state religion and philosophy from hellenistic civilization, and absorbing christianity from the judean diaspora

its most significant contributions to the modern world were introducing the groundwork for modern western law, its engineering capabilities, and facilitating the spread of christianity in its later years, which in the long-term provided europe with a higher degree of cross-cultural cohesion than it otherwise may have had.

han china's legacy included a number of major scientific innovations, some of which facilitated europe's rise to prominence when they came into use on the other side of eurasia.

its territories, protectorates, and a lot of its sphere of influence remain the original basis of what the chinese consider to be "unified china," which they've sought to preserve, often a source of tension in the western and southwestern territories of the country to this day.

the dynasty's legacy is so significant with respect to the civilization that the modern chinese still call themselves "han." the sense of unity among the han provides for a rather stable sense of national/cultural identity, even when leadership has lost its legitimacy over the centuries, keeping the core of the country largely intact for over two thousand years. without this factor, it is doubtful that it would be the heavyweight it is today, as especially large countries tend to fracture over time.

its legacy may not be as significant in the west as the collective product of the cultures within / descendant states of rome, but china's achivements - and historical contributions to paving the way to the modern world - and long-term potential, enabled in part by the legacy of the han, is not to be underestimated.

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Unknown361 posted...

180,000+ dead Americans and millions out of a job isn't my definition of America being great.

Ya trump should have made the vaccine for coronavirus back in 2016 what is he doing right

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Trump will restore order in a few months time.
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Idk, Last year Vegas got a huge infestation of Locusts. Then there is the disease that came months later.. now part of the US is flooding. Sounds like we're "fucked".

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nuggetg posted...

Six months ago, America was the greatest nation in human history.

Try four years ago.

It ceased being great once Trump won the election.
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Hop103 posted...

Trump will restore order in a few months time.

You know, You get me.

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America has been completely screwed for a while

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