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RadiantAdolin
08/20/20 11:01:22 AM
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The president should be required to have some legal education
The president shouldn't have the ability to pardon people
The president should not be able to appoint people to public services, they should be elected
Stricter laws need to be enforced regarding conflict of interests and presidents supporting bransa

What else needs to change?
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BuckVanHammer
08/20/20 11:02:31 AM
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id say electing unpopular people sound be the first step...

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Guide
08/20/20 11:02:42 AM
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I would focus on more granular breaches of law and justice, but overall, yes.

Like, when you're fucking with the USPS in order to fuck with the vote, and it's clear as fucking day, maybe have a council to hold the president accountable.

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RadiantAdolin
08/20/20 11:03:25 AM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
id say electing unpopular people sound be the first step...
He won the election legitimately the first time. If he wins this year it's not legitimate, though.
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RadiantAdolin
08/20/20 11:04:44 AM
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Guide posted...
I would focus on more granular breaches of law and justice, but overall, yes.

Like, when you're fucking with the USPS in order to fuck with the vote, and it's clear as fucking day, maybe have a council to hold the president accountable.
See, that falls under appointing people. He put his friend, who has massive financial backing in USPS competitors, in charge of it so that he would sabotage it. If the postmaster general was an elected official we wouldn't have this problem.
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Squall28
08/20/20 11:05:44 AM
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RadiantAdolin posted...


What else needs to change?

The ability of the Senate to bail Trump out of impeachment.

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BuckVanHammer
08/20/20 11:10:11 AM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
He won the election legitimately the first time. If he wins this year it's not legitimate, though.
not questioning that, saying EC is poopy.

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KiwiTerraRizing
08/20/20 11:12:22 AM
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Hes exposed how racist and hateful the right wing is. There are no moderate Republicans they are all zealots.

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DarkRoast
08/20/20 11:14:35 AM
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The president shouldn't have direct control over the Justice Department

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UnholyMudcrab
08/20/20 11:15:03 AM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
The president should be required to have some legal education

An overly strict requirement

The president shouldn't have the ability to pardon people

The pardon needs to exist as a check against the judicial system. Something should be in place to guard against misuse, but the power shouldn't be removed altogether.

The president should not be able to appoint people to public services, they should be elected

There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of positions subject to presidential appointment. There's no practical way to hold elections for all those positions.
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/20/20 11:16:09 AM
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Everybody who already knew the flaws in our system:



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RadiantAdolin
08/20/20 1:10:51 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
he didn't win the popular vote. that only counts as "legitimate" because the system as it is is antiquated and still hinges on the obsolete electoral college.
Popular vote isn't better than EC though. Both are equally bad.
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ZMythos
08/20/20 1:12:06 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
The president shouldn't have the ability to pardon people
Ehhhhhh I'm not sure about this one. It's a check on the Judicial system.

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ZMythos
08/20/20 1:12:58 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
Popular vote isn't better than EC though. Both are equally bad.
No EC is way worse.

Straight popular vote is only bad because of first-past-the-post

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monkmith
08/20/20 1:15:47 PM
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maybe change the system that has allowed two people to become president against the will of the people over the last two decades?

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SevenTenths
08/20/20 1:17:21 PM
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Except they aren't flaws, the problem is gop didn't have balls to impeach because they only focused on the short term.

The system is designed to have checks and balances, but when the majority party refuses to do so, that's your flaw. A flaw that's corrected by voting.

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monkmith
08/20/20 1:19:24 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Except they aren't flaws, the problem is gop didn't have balls to impeach because they only focused on the short term.

The system is designed to have checks and balances, but when the majority party refuses to do so, that's your flaw. A flaw that's corrected by voting.
which is why the ruling party is trying to completely discredit and kill off the idea of voting...

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SevenTenths
08/20/20 1:20:40 PM
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monkmith posted...
which is why the ruling party is trying to completely discredit and kill off the idea of voting...

Ok boomer

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monkmith
08/20/20 1:23:30 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Ok boomer
does he tap you on the head before he finishes? or does he leave it as a surprise? trump seems like the surprise type of person...

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dj1200
08/20/20 1:25:13 PM
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we should get rid of the electoral college

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