Current Events > So... if liberal arts is such a joke, why is it still offered as a degree?

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How is its entire department sustainable if neither its graduates nor its teachers make any money supposedly?
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On the office chance that this isnt a dumb troll topic, liberal arts encompasses a wide variety of fields, it is not a major

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The office chance, derp

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What did the liberal arts major say to the engineering grad?

Do you want fries with that?

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the people who take them dont think it's a joke
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Liberal arts contains extremely important fields of study. Our economic system doesn't value understanding art, philosophy, history, or anything like that. It values serving capital. And what is the major industries in the US? Serving silicon valley, the military industrial complex, and banking. Even among STEM jobs, AI and generally producing products that simplify their work and reduce the need for employees is reducing their salary at this point. The joke is our economic system being hostile to all working people, not your major.

Its weird, at my uni the liberal arts students were all the overachievers. I remember the liberal arts majors looking down on us plebeian science majors in first year.

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It's always amusing when you see liberal arts students crying about being unable to pay their student loans. It's as if you chose to be poor and then you cried about it.

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Siaperaz posted...

It's always amusing when you see liberal arts students crying about being unable to pay their student loans. It's as if you chose to be poor and then you cried about it.

Ruthless

Indoril_Nerevar posted...

On the office chance that this isnt a dumb troll topic, liberal arts encompasses a wide variety of fields, it is not a major

you are wrong, but ok

https://www.necc.mass.edu/learn/credit-programs/liberal-arts/

Fam_Fam posted...

you are wrong, but ok

https://www.necc.mass.edu/learn/credit-programs/liberal-arts/

>associates degree

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Siaperaz posted...

It's always amusing when you see liberal arts students crying about being unable to pay their student loans. It's as if you chose to be poor and then you cried about it.

it's kinda dumb forcing 18 year olds to make decisions that will affect the rest of their life in such a heavy way

A lot of high schoolers are probably so much more passionate about arts than engineering and shit

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Siaperaz posted...

It's always amusing when you see liberal arts students crying about being unable to pay their student loans. It's as if you chose to be poor and then you cried about it.

Neetpost

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People who say that have no idea what it encompasses.
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As a physics major, I respect the liberal arts as something I could never do. Any degree takes hard work and discipline.

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

>associates degree

*looks at topic title*

Garioshi posted...

As a physics major, I respect the liberal arts as something I could never do. Any degree takes hard work and discipline.

not any degree, in my opinion, as there are joke schools/degrees out there.

but that's not due to discipline

Fam_Fam posted...

*looks at topic title*

AAs are not real degrees and work differently. You can get arts and humanities for instance which is an entire college at un

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AAs are often vague and cover an entire field, loosely

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

AAs are not real degrees and work differently. You can get arts and humanities for instance which is an entire college at un

yes, they are broader (which is kinda the point). but they are real accredited degrees, whether or not you personally think so.

and none of that makes what the TC wrote wrong or a "dumb troll". so your "correction" is not appropriate.

R1masher posted...

What did the liberal arts major say to the engineering grad?

Is it your turn to mop the bathrooms or mine?

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I majored in 'liberal arts,' you basically just picked three minors. it's called interdisciplinary studies now

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Fam_Fam posted...

yes, they are broader (which is kinda the point). but they are real accredited degrees, whether or not you personally think so.

and none of that makes what the TC wrote wrong or a "dumb troll". so your "correction" is not appropriate.

NOBODY who whines about muh liberal arts majors is talking about community college and you fucking know it, shut up

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Fam_Fam posted...

yes, they are broader (which is kinda the point). but they are real accredited degrees, whether or not you personally think so.

and none of that makes what the TC wrote wrong or a "dumb troll". so your "correction" is not appropriate.

As I said, I have a BA in liberal arts @Indoril_Nerevar

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Here is the truth - useless degrees such as philosophy, art history (heck, history altogether!), political science, etc, exist for a reason.

look at the UK royal family: prince Williamc prince harry and the like studied stuff like art history, right? Are you getting my point?

the upper tiers of society have their life pretty much solved for them and only need to get a degree. Why bother with a horrible degree that will sap the life away from them such as most STEM stuff? Leave that for the peasants (read: you).

now that I made the point clear, let me clarify these easy degrees are not just for future kings. How many HOT girls that come from a rich family get into stuff such as communications or psychology, join a sorority and secure a rich husband and marry? How many rich white boys also go for communications or political science, join a frat, have the time of their lives, and then end getting a cushy job managing the manager of a bunch of STEM turbo-beards that studied 10X as hard in school, earn 10X less and that most of them will be chewed by the market and spit out when theyre in their 30s because theyre now too old for the field?

we live under a caste society, but people dont see it. The upper castes can afford studying something interesting and easy, their contacts or their parents contacts will get them a cushy job just as long as they get a degree. The lower 90% of people (so, most people) simply shut the fuck up, choose a hard science and even then they will get made fun of for any mistakes such as having a good -but not great- GPA, not getting an internship on time or not becoming a slightly higher level wage-cuck fast enough so theyre not given the boot eventually due ageism

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

NOBODY who whines about muh liberal arts majors is talking about community college and you fucking know it, shut up

no one said they are or at not. the TC asked a question about liberal arts degrees, and you claimed they don't exist, and you are factually wrong.

Balrog0 posted...

As I said, I have a BA in liberal arts @Indoril_Nerevar

please link to the program so he can "shut up"

What is wrong with grammar, logic, rhetoric, music, arithmetic, geometry and astronomy?

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I have two liberal arts degrees, including a post grad degree. I see topics like this all the time on the tech forums I read.

I always ask why do STEM majors worry about us so much? We hardly ever discussed STEM majors hardly at all in our classes. I think what STEM people do is cool, and I respect their work as important to society. Not sure why so many of them think our areas of study are worthless though. People are not automatons. What's the point of a computer or technology if there's no creative forces to put such tech to work and those around to ask if such works are good or ethical?

Here's another hot tip. Not everybody picks a major to get rich. College is not a purely economic function. Knowledge has value in itself regardless of the market forces that decide the size of the check you get.

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Balrog0 posted...

As I said, I have a BA in liberal arts @Indoril_Nerevar

Right, which like you said is interdisciplinary studies, a combo of three minors, its not its own thing

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People who think degrees are a joke dont have them.

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furb posted...

I always ask why do STEM majors worry about us so much? We hardly ever discussed STEM majors hardly at all in our classes. I think what STEM people do is cool, and I respect their work as important to society. Not sure why so many of them think our areas of study are worthless though. People are not automatons. What's the point of a computer or technology if there's no creative forces to put such tech to work and those around to ask if such works are good or ethical?

It's not STEM majors, it's anti-intellectual reactionaries who hate college and see liberal arts as an easy punching bag.

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Garioshi posted...

It's not STEM majors, it's anti-intellectual reactionaries who hate college and see liberal arts as an easy punching bag.

the venn diagram between those two overlaps a good amount tbh

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TopKekBro posted...

Here is the truth - useless degrees such as philosophy, art history (heck, history altogether!), political science, etc, exist for a reason.

look at the UK royal family: prince Williamc prince harry and the like studied stuff like art history, right? Are you getting my point?

the upper tiers of society have their life pretty much solved for them and only need to get a degree. Why bother with a horrible degree that will sap the life away from them such as most STEM stuff? Leave that for the peasants (read: you).

now that I made the point clear, let me clarify these easy degrees are not just for future kings. How many HOT girls that come from a rich family get into stuff such as communications or psychology, join a sorority and secure a rich husband and marry? How many rich white boys also go for communications or political science, join a frat, have the time of their lives, and then end getting a cushy job managing the manager of a bunch of STEM turbo-beards that studied 10X as hard in school, earn 10X less and that most of them will be chewed by the market and spit out when theyre in their 30s because theyre now too old for the field?

we live under a caste society, but people dont see it. The upper castes can afford studying something interesting and easy, their contacts or their parents contacts will get them a cushy job just as long as they get a degree. The lower 90% of people (so, most people) simply shut the fuck up, choose a hard science and even then they will get made fun of for any mistakes such as having a good -but not great- GPA, not getting an internship on time or not becoming a slightly higher level wage-cuck fast enough so theyre not given the boot eventually due ageism

Theres so much fucking stupid and wrong with this post that im not sure I want to tackle it from mobile. Go to school.

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I would argue that college should not be treated as just "job training" and that having a more broadly educated populous would have led to less anti-science bs that we see today.

Edit: *populace...damn autocorrect lol

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Anticyclonic posted...

I would argue that college should not be treated as just "job training" and that having a more broadly educated populous would have led to less anti-science bs that we see today.

Ideally and practically a combination of both. But yes, and free college would go a long way towards rectifying that

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ufoivy posted...

Indeed lol.

Its more amusing when you see people who never attended any institute of higher ed shitposting and pretending to know what theyre talking about

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i have a liberal arts degree (in english!) and make boocoo moneys

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

Ideally and practically a combination of both. But yes, and free college would go a long way towards rectifying that

Indeed. I am pretty damn good at my field in molecular biology, compared to my colleagues (if I do say so myself lol), but I'm also glad I got my non-major classes too. Philosophy, psychology, history, etc.

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Anticyclonic posted...

Indeed. I am pretty damn good at my field in molecular biology, compared to my colleagues (if I do say so myself lol), but I'm also glad I got my non-major classes too. Philosophy, psychology, history, etc.

Feels relatively rare to see anyone who appreciates the value of general ed classes, especially people in stem who tend imo to have a myopic view of higher ed, so im glad to hear that

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

Feels relatively rare to see anyone who appreciates the value of general ed classes, especially people in stem who tend imo to have a myopic view of higher ed, so im glad to hear that

I agree it's rare. I even went to school with people who are medical doctors now who hated having to learn anything that didn't relate to being a doctor. Though, as you said, the way our education is so expensive no doubt contributes to it. Plus our society values "productivity" and profits over learning for the sake of learning, etc.

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I have a film degree and I've managed to getva pretty nice living out of it

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logic/critical thinking should be taught regardless of what specific job you are interested in

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

Theres so much fucking stupid and wrong with this post that im not sure I want to tackle it from mobile. Go to school.

says the outrage queen who cant even properly call out troll accounts without him getting suspended too.

you have to stop attacking people simply because you disagree with them.

at first I thought you were a cool guy and you were just calling out the likes of DP and SMaL because the stuff they post is bigoted and wrong, but now I see you come at me just as forcefully over you disagreeing with an opinion I have. You need to back off

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Is this a ROD alt that somehow didnt get banned in a month

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Indoril_Nerevar posted...

Is this a ROD alt that somehow didnt get banned in a month

i gave my opinion about STEM/liberal arts and now i am your sworn enemy?

you need some chill


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