Current Events > People you can't believe get called "geniuses"

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Kanye West is the first person to come to mind.

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me
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Elon Musk

*awaits the upvotes*

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Elon Musk

Kanye West.

People always say it when talking about how crazy or shitty he is.

"Oh hes wierd and crazy but hes a musical genius."

Hes not. Hes not a musical genius.
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West in a musical genius. It isn't until more modern times started to assume that geniuses could do it all.

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West is not a musical genius, and I truly don't understand why people say that he is. He makes decent beats and is an average rapper.

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West wrote some very profound lyrics back in the day and was the single biggest driver of trends in hip hop for many years. Hes as much a musical genius as everyone whos done the same in other genres

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on one hand, I want to say Kojima, but on the other, he does come off as a crazy genius sometimes, but he's been gassed up for so long, he kinda skirts the line between genius and pretentiousness, IMO.

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He is far more then just some good beats.

Be low is someone explaining better then me.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Kanye-West-a-musical-genius

Kanye West is a musical chameleon. Whether it be the lush and orchestral textures of Late Registration or the minimalist landscape of Yeezus, he dares never to work with a comfortable and proven formula. Hes always challenging contemporaries. Challenging listeners. Challenging popular music. And challenging himself with an amorphous musical philosophy. He is not in the business of communicating his art through a prism of conventions; in a method true to him, he demonstrates an obsession to destroy them.
Releasing eight solo albums, including four in four years, with moderately to radically different musical backdrops in just over a decade, Kanye West is Beatles-esque in his ability to stand emphatically in popular music while remaining the worlds premier nonconformist.
Something I would like to add about West that I do not think gets mentioned enough: he boasts maybe the most extensive and diverse collaborator list ever. Electro/House duo Daft Punk, record producer Rick Rubin, film score composer Jon Brion, RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan; and on the performer side, Neo-Soul Singer-Songwriter Sampha, Electro/Indie Pop Singer-Songwriter Sia, Chris Martin from Coldplay, Justin Vernon from Indie Folk band Bon Iver, Adam Levine from Maroon 5 and many more in and outside Hip Hop can say they have had prominent features in his music.
And these features from these many performers are not weak, frivolous inputs. They are commonly solid and even eclectic, with some even stealing the show from Kanye himself. This is a hallmark of a great music producer in another sensehere West finds, in this endless sea of musical and thematic shifts, a way to optimize said collaborators talent. I have forgotten the litany of instances in which I have learned of an artist through a standout performance on a Kanye West song, only to refer to their underwhelming solo work. His ability to discern, and more importantly showcase talentmore than the artist themselves realize, is remarkable.
Whether it be offering to produce Paul McCartneys album, not even rapping for the entire duration of 808s & Heartbreak, or recently expressing desire to link up with Bob Dylan, West has redefined what it means to be a rapper and musician by operating in his own vein; one that is without mold or boundary.
Though he may be the most divisive man of his day, make no mistake about his musicianship. A resolute exploratory figure, he is the most important artist of the 21st century. And he is a genius.


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cjsdowg posted...

He is far more then just some good beats.

Be low is someone explaining better then me.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Kanye-West-a-musical-genius

Kanye West is a musical chameleon. Whether it be the lush and orchestral textures of Late Registration or the minimalist landscape of Yeezus, he dares never to work with a comfortable and proven formula. Hes always challenging contemporaries. Challenging listeners. Challenging popular music. And challenging himself with an amorphous musical philosophy. He is not in the business of communicating his art through a prism of conventions; in a method true to him, he demonstrates an obsession to destroy them.
Releasing eight solo albums, including four in four years, with moderately to radically different musical backdrops in just over a decade, Kanye West is Beatles-esque in his ability to stand emphatically in popular music while remaining the worlds premier nonconformist.
Something I would like to add about West that I do not think gets mentioned enough: he boasts maybe the most extensive and diverse collaborator list ever. Electro/House duo Daft Punk, record producer Rick Rubin, film score composer Jon Brion, RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan; and on the performer side, Neo-Soul Singer-Songwriter Sampha, Electro/Indie Pop Singer-Songwriter Sia, Chris Martin from Coldplay, Justin Vernon from Indie Folk band Bon Iver, Adam Levine from Maroon 5 and many more in and outside Hip Hop can say they have had prominent features in his music.
And these features from these many performers are not weak, frivolous inputs. They are commonly solid and even eclectic, with some even stealing the show from Kanye himself. This is a hallmark of a great music producer in another sensehere West finds, in this endless sea of musical and thematic shifts, a way to optimize said collaborators talent. I have forgotten the litany of instances in which I have learned of an artist through a standout performance on a Kanye West song, only to refer to their underwhelming solo work. His ability to discern, and more importantly showcase talentmore than the artist themselves realize, is remarkable.
Whether it be offering to produce Paul McCartneys album, not even rapping for the entire duration of 808s & Heartbreak, or recently expressing desire to link up with Bob Dylan, West has redefined what it means to be a rapper and musician by operating in his own vein; one that is without mold or boundary.
Though he may be the most divisive man of his day, make no mistake about his musicianship. A resolute exploratory figure, he is the most important artist of the 21st century. And he is a genius.

Get ready for people to just go thats dumb because they dislike the genre.

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Kojimas games have way too much dumb humor for me to ever think of him as pretentious, but that's just my take

the0rebirth posted...
Kanye West

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Kanye West is the most free of any modern rapper to try and take musical risks and makes his own beats to boot

Hes definitely a genius

Kanye always struck me as one of those savants who is crazy good at one thing kinda average to bad at everything else.

Yeah I don't get the Elon Musk genius talk

Dude has two bachelors in business and physics and dropped out of a PhD program almost immediately to go into the business world. Then he starts doing usual businessman stuff with generous financial backing, fast forward a couple decades and now we're here. Where somehow his fanboys think he is a figure of authority for anything tech when he doesn't have any credentials other than CEO.

He wasn't the founder of Tesla, and you would have to be smoking crack to think that he could do anything remotely on the level of the physicists that SpaceX hires since he spends all of his time doing business stuff, memeing online, and calling people pedos when they insult his half baked ideas. OpenAI? That's literally a packaged collection of open source python tools that existed before that was a thing. And it's still just python, hasn't even been ported to other programming languages

Kanye West is a musical genius in that he pretty much single handedly changed the early 00s hip hop trend but cjsdowg's post reads like a modified copypasta for Tool. He's not unique for his collaborations. Someone like Pharrell Williams has done the same thing and for a longer period of time

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Max Martin.

Sure he's made some bangers in the distant past, but his stuff has gotten so formulaic over the years you can definitely notice it.

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Freddy Mercury


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Kurt Cobain

I like Kanye and I pity him for messing with Kardashians. He proly gona lose his shit like Bruce, who was also a great man.

Me, i say Steve Jobs. He was smart but he wasnt a genius. From what ive heard he was just ruthless and had a lack of morality that allowed him to crush people in the sake of progress. I think Woz was the real genius.

Is this a thread aimed at collecting the most edge possible?

On topic: Carl Sagan

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BlockAddition posted...

Is this a thread aimed at collecting the most edge possible?

On topic: Carl Sagan

this post says it all basically

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Sir Isaac Newton. Literal virgin lmfao.


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Jabodie posted...

Sir Isaac Newton. Literal virgin lmfao.

He quantified gravity, pioneered calculus, and discovered color is a property of light during the plague.

Omg what a loser!!! Lolololol pathetic! He revolutionized SCIENCE and MATH on different levels but couldn't find the g spot, omfg HUMILIATING. LOLOLOLOL

Jabodie you fucking DESTROYED Sir Issac Newton, Oh My God i cant wait to read your autobiography. I am about to piss myself

Keith_Valentine posted...

Jabodie you fucking DESTROYED Sir Issac Newton, Oh My God i cant wait to read your autobiography. I am about to piss myself

https://youtu.be/Zgk8UdV7GQ0

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Keith_Valentine posted...

He quantified gravity, pioneered calculus, and discovered color is a property of light during the plague.

Omg what a loser!!! Lolololol pathetic! He revolutionized SCIENCE and MATH on different levels but couldn't find the g spot, omfg HUMILIATING. LOLOLOLOL

Keith_Valentine posted...

Jabodie you fucking DESTROYED Sir Issac Newton, Oh My God i cant wait to read your autobiography. I am about to piss myself

Thank you. I don't need the praise, but I certainly can't say I mind it.

Edit: btw thatsthejoke.jpg if you somehow thought that was a serious post

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the plural of "genius" is "genii"

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all of them, but that's a me thing. i feel like i'm a groupie or some shit calling somebody a genius. not my thing.

Bananana posted...

Get ready for people to just go thats dumb because they dislike the genre.

i love the genre but it does weird me out how people seem to use it more often when they discuss kanye. i've seen people that have said more negative things about kanye's music than i've seen positive, that have negative things to say about his personality, politics, clothing line....still be like "but he's a musical genius tho."

idk it's just weird to me.

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Hey ol Jabo, whats your greatest accomplishment? I dont believe you could match Sir Issac Newton if you lived to be 10,000 years old. What do you think?

You know who else didnt care about sex? Nikola Tesla.

WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!

Right!?!?!!

Kanye West is definitely a sample genius. He's not the best rapper but no one can make a beat like he can.
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Keith_Valentine posted...

Hey ol Jabo, whats your greatest accomplishment? I dont believe you could match Sir Issac Newton if you lived to be 10,000 years old. What do you think?

You know who else didnt care about sex? Nikola Tesla.

WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!

Right!?!?!!

As stated earlier that's the joke.

I didn't intend to start some kind of episode. The joke is that Sir Isaac Newton is the first person I think of when I hear the word genius. And dismissing his accomplishments based on his sexual prowess is ridiculous, and it's ridiculous to do the same to even an average man today.

That's the joke bro. It's only six words of sarcasm. Edit: the statement is so ludicrous I figured it would be self evident.

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Jabodie posted...

As stated earlier that's the joke.

I didn't intend to start some kind of episode. The joke is that Sir Isaac Newton is the first person I think of when I hear the word genius. And dismissing his accomplishments based on his sexual prowess is ridiculous, and it's ridiculous to do the same to even an average man today.

That's the joke bro. It's only five words of sarcasm. Edit: the statement is so ludicrous I figured it would be self evident.

should have kept playing along to see how far this meltdown would go

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came in to say musk

idk who else applies since jobs is dead. it's not something thrown around a lot that I hear.

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Oh yea i know Jabo. Im making jokes too, i love jokes. Isnt it self evident?

Edite: dont be ludicrous.

KobeSystem posted...

should have kept playing along to see how far this meltdown would go

I mean, idk. It's pretty late, dude might be having a rough night. No reason to egg him on.

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Jabo did you know if you click on the number (#33) of a post, you can see when someone goes back and edits it over and over to get it just right? I like that

Keith_Valentine posted...

Jabo did you know if you click on the number (#33) of a post, you can see when someone goes back and edits it over and over to get it just right? I like that

I edit my posts a lot. I use Swype on mobile so a lot of words get switched around and I don't like to double post when I have only a small addition. I also like to mark additions with edit so when people see the replies they know that wasn't originally in the post.

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You go back and rethink what youre saying and edit it over and over, like post #28.

"Maybe this or... Maybe that. This?! Ahh jeez i just dunno!! Golly golly gosh".

Did you know about that?

Keith_Valentine posted...

You go back and rethink what youre saying and edit it over and over, like post #28.

"Maybe this or... Maybe that. This?! Ahh jeez i just dunno!! Golly golly gosh".

Did you know about that?

Well sure. I edit my posts all the time. And I started to worry that I legitimately upset somebody.

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Put some respek on Sir Issacs name ffs, without him we'd all be floating around like the fat kid in Willy Wonka. I fuckin love that man, OK?! I love SCIENCE. OK?!

Is Keith drunk or losing his fucking mind?

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Both.

How you been dude, i never admit it but i love your username. Drizzt for life.

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My former boss and mentor used to call me the boy genius unironically. It used to make me feel awkward as hell.

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My man Sir Isaac Newton is probably my favorite genius and I meant no disrespect.



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Just call me Zaknafein.

Zak very much so did not respect women.

Like, the dude loved three things:

1. His son
2. Killing priestesses
3. Jarlaxle

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DrizztLink posted...

Zak very much so did not respect women.

Like, the dude loved three things:

1. His son
2. Killing priestesses
3. Jarlaxle

Lol, so true. His greatest pleasure was killing Lloths priestesses.

That meme was directed at Jabo, i used it poorly.