Current Events > CDC is in favor of reopening schools. Children don't suffer much from corona.

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Lebronwon
07/24/20 2:40:24 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/cdc-coronavirus-school-guidelines-new/index.html

New US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines on education and child care come down hard in favor of opening schools, saying children don't suffer much from coronavirus, are less likely than adults to spread it and suffer from being out of school. But the new guidelines posted Thursday do recommend that local officials should consider closing schools, or keeping them closed, if there is substantial, uncontrolled transmission of the virus. The CDC has been promising new guidelines for more than a week, after demands from President Donald Trump that the agency alter its recommendations for opening schools. "It is critically important for our public health to open schools this fall," CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said in a statement announcing the updates. "School closures have disrupted normal ways of life for children and parents, and they have had negative health consequences on our youth. CDC is prepared to work with K-12 schools to safely reopen while protecting the most vulnerable."

"The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children," the statement reads. "Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths," it adds. "Scientific studies suggest that COVID-19 transmission among children in schools may be low. International studies that have assessed how readily COVID-19 spreads in schools also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low." It notes that there are few reports of children being the driving force of transmission within families. "This is consistent with data from both virus and antibody testing, suggesting that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community," the statement reads. The guidelines recommend against screening all students for coronavirus. "CDC does not currently recommend universal symptom screenings (screening all students grades K-12) be conducted by schools," the guidelines read. "Parents or caregivers should be strongly encouraged to monitor their children for signs of infectious illness every day," they add. "Students who are sick should not attend school in person."



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treewojima
07/24/20 2:41:07 PM
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what could possibly go wrong
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The23rdMagus
07/24/20 2:41:42 PM
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What could've caused this stunning reversal?

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SevenTenths
07/24/20 2:41:53 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
But the new guidelines posted Thursday do recommend that local officials should consider closing schools, or keeping them closed, if there is substantial, uncontrolled transmission of the virus. The CDC has been promising new guidelines for more than a week, after demands from President Donald Trump that the agency alter its recommendations for opening schools


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DarthAragorn
07/24/20 2:42:24 PM
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so basically trump forced them to say opening schools is fine
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monkmith
07/24/20 2:45:40 PM
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we should just conveniently forget that their original guidelines, that trump threw a tirade over, suggested the opposite huh?

all this shows is the the letter agencies that are supposed to be independent from direct executive office control just aren't independent enough under the current administration. of course, that was intentional, trump has been firing these people and filling positions with swamp monsters for his whole term.

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Bio1590
07/24/20 2:45:57 PM
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Reminder Robert Redfield is absolutely a Trump sycophant.
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Tmaster148
07/24/20 2:47:05 PM
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Because only children exist inside a school building and never come into contact with people who aren't children.

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metralo
07/24/20 2:47:30 PM
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we all know that kids dont suffer much from it. thats not the fucking point

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The23rdMagus
07/24/20 2:48:42 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Because only children exist inside a school building and never come into contact with people who aren't children.
Exactly. It's not about the children as much as it is about the faculty and parents.

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g980
07/24/20 2:48:47 PM
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What

No one cares about the kids. Its the parents and teachers that are the issue

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LastTomorrow
07/24/20 2:49:03 PM
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And the parents? And everyone else?

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FreezerDoor
07/24/20 2:49:24 PM
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Im so disappointed in the CDC. Weren't schools closed within a week or two of corona being widespread in US. How are they using that two week sample size to say it doesn't spread in schools. When we weren't even testing kids back then. It was if you been to China or had symptoms you got tested in March or something like that.

Kids also have been home for that past 4 months so they haven't been coming into contact with much people . And if they do catch it they probably don't get tested since they might not show symptoms.

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SevenTenths
07/24/20 2:49:30 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
so basically trump forced them to say opening schools is fine

no basically they said if you're in an out break area, which 40 of the 50 states are, keep them closed. But people who don't read will jump to conclusions because headlines are always accurate.

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TheMikh
07/24/20 2:50:05 PM
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what about the parents and teachers

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Funkydog
07/24/20 2:50:10 PM
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"It's okay to open them but really keep them closed please please please, we're only saying open because we're being made to"

Is what I'm getting from this.

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treewojima
07/24/20 2:52:16 PM
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TheMikh posted...
what about the parents and teachers

Fuck them, think of the economy
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Herodopus
07/24/20 2:52:19 PM
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Fucking toadies
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Machete
07/24/20 2:53:48 PM
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it doesn't surprise me that donald wants to kill as many kids as possible

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Zikten
07/24/20 2:54:25 PM
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treewojima posted...


Fuck them, think of the economy

yes. think of the economy after every parent and teacher in america dies
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SevenTenths
07/24/20 2:55:46 PM
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Machete posted...
it doesn't surprise me that donald wants to kill as many kids as possible

it's not the kids who will die, it's their parents, their parents co-workers, and their grand parents.

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MabusIncarnate
07/24/20 2:57:36 PM
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Good thing the teachers and staff are children and it's not contagious!

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TheGoldenEel
07/24/20 2:58:22 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low.
but hey you guys, when rates of transmission are low, rates of transmission are low

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KnightofShikari
07/24/20 2:58:38 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
it's not the kids who will die, it's their parents, their parents co-workers, and their grand parents.
and teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, and other school employees

god just imagine the spread during lunchtimes, and the people who would have to clean that up, and how much it would spread there even at the reduced rate of child to adult they saw

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Machete
07/24/20 2:59:00 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
it's not the kids who will die, it's their parents, their parents co-workers, and their grand parents.

so then it's yet another example of donald fucking up what he's trying to do and making things that much more terrible, no matter how terrible his objectives already are. Sad!

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ZMythos
07/24/20 3:00:37 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...


god just imagine the spread during lunchtimes
My school's plan for lunch time is fucking insufferable.

We have two lunchroom supervisors (me and one other teacher), and we're supposed to enforce social distancing of 200 kids in one room. They need to stand 6 feet apart in the lunch line and tables will be spread out into neighboring hallways and lobbies.

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monkmith
07/24/20 3:00:55 PM
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Machete posted...
so then it's yet another example of donald fucking up what he's trying to do and making things that much more terrible, no matter how terrible his objectives already are. Sad!
he's playing to his base. he knows his strongest supporters are incels, and as such they have no kids. he'll just kill off everyone else.

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MabusIncarnate
07/24/20 3:01:00 PM
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I called this the first say it was declared that orange asshole was taking control of the CDC reporting numbers. Next week it will be "numbers are decreasing, and America is doing great to contain it!" when in reality it's increasing at a disturbing level but Trump will make it seem the complete opposite. The lie will keep coming, the moron supporters will think everything is getting back to normal, stop wearing masks, and spread it like a wildfire. When winter comes, it's going to be something to see.

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yusiko
07/24/20 3:01:52 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
it's not the kids who will die, it's their parents, their parents co-workers, and their grand parents.


we dont know that
this virus is new
it could be like chicken pox.
it stays in your system forever once you have it and then mutates into something much worse like how if you get chicken pox as a kid as an adult you might get shingles

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TheGoldenEel
07/24/20 3:02:43 PM
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yusiko posted...
we dont know that
this virus is new
it could be like chicken pox.
it stays in your system forever once you have it and then mutates into something much worse like how if you get chicken pox as a kid as an adult you might get shingles
Lets have a nationwide experiment then to see if people die!

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SevenTenths
07/24/20 3:03:24 PM
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yusiko posted...


we dont know that
we do know that
yusiko posted...


this virus is new
so is your theory that it takes over 6 months to kill kids? we've got a shit load of data with the millions of people that have already been infected.

yusiko posted...


it could be like chicken pox.
It's not

yusiko posted...


it stays in your system forever once you have it and then mutates into something much worse like how if you get chicken pox as a kid as an adult you might get shingles
hey look fear mongering.

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Smashingpmkns
07/24/20 3:04:35 PM
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This is going to lead to so many more unnecessary deaths
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billcom6
07/24/20 3:05:24 PM
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Nobody really has any idea what will happen if schools are open while COVID is still so prevalent.
There are also no good plans of what to do when it comes to schools.

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thronedfire2
07/24/20 3:06:09 PM
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teachers are all just gonna go on strike

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CobraGT
07/24/20 3:10:34 PM
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ZMythos posted...
My school's plan for lunch time is fucking insufferable.

We have two lunchroom supervisors (me and one other teacher), and we're supposed to enforce social distancing of 200 kids in one room. They need to stand 6 feet apart in the lunch line and tables will be spread out into neighboring hallways and lobbies.

*hugs* I feel for both of you.

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monkmith
07/24/20 3:12:37 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
teachers are all just gonna go on strike
sounds like another reason to send in the feds! rubber bullets and midnight abductions will end those strikes real fast!!!

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RetsuZaiZen
07/24/20 3:14:21 PM
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CDC just bowing to Trump

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justaguy3492
07/24/20 3:16:24 PM
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It worked really well for South Korea, France, Hong Kong, and others!

Wait, I'm being told it in fact did not work out and they had to close down again.

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monkmith
07/24/20 3:17:10 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-texas-church-camp-kids

seems like the perfect case study for what will happen when schools reopen...

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thronedfire2
07/24/20 3:17:10 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

yup it's insane

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billcom6
07/24/20 3:25:57 PM
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We should have forced a few states to keep their schools open in the spring to serve as the control group.

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CobraGT
07/24/20 3:52:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

*jumps up and down* Me, me, me! I know how the graph shows we should open! See, when the schools were open the levels was low so if we open schools again then the levels will return to what they were back when the schools were open.

Please do not hurt me.

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Jiek_Fafn
07/24/20 4:04:44 PM
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Hazmat suits for everyone. Problem solved

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