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Judgmenl 07/23/20 11:17:46 AM #1: |
Now Biden is ~+8 over Trump and no pollster has Trump beating Biden.
Absolutely insane how one man can fuck up so badly and how unlikable Clinton was. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 07/23/20 11:20:01 AM #2: |
Despite the right wing talking point about Trump uniting us, he hasn't actually gained many fans since his election.
That, and he has lost a lot of people who are tired of his bullshit. Combine that with the fact he won the 2016 election by razor thin margins, and I literally don't see how he could win. But regardless I'm going to go out and vote because, duh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 07/23/20 11:27:50 AM #3: |
That's nice, but I don't give a shit what polls say. Everyone needs to fucking vote for Biden and the Democrats this Nov. Don't take anything as a given.
Last thing we need is a repeat of 2016 where people assumed Clinton had it in the bag and don't turn out to vote. Ideally, it's a crushing defeat nationwide that finally sends a message to Republicans after they ignored Bobby Jindal's "party of stupid" warning years ago and doubled down instead. argonautweakend posted... Despite the right wing talking point about Trump uniting us, he hasn't actually gained many fans since his election.They're actually trying to claim that?! Fucking lol! He specifically does shit just to appeal to his base, at the expense and intentional anger of everyone else! I suppose he is uniting a lot of people, though....against him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 07/23/20 11:30:12 AM #4: |
I heard it from somebody on fox news last night, so the idea exists. how widespread it is, i don't know.
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Aculo 07/23/20 11:33:41 AM #5: |
except that the polls are complete bullshit and are always different depending on who is polling who, ok?
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papercup 07/23/20 11:39:00 AM #6: |
2016 had exceptionally low voter turnout. Unless the gop really supresses the vote this year, I don't see that happening again.
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Judgmenl 07/23/20 11:40:55 AM #7: |
Aculo posted...
except that the polls are complete bullshit and are always different depending on who is polling who, ok?Every pollster besides Rasmussen has Biden up by at least 7. Rasmussen is garbage anyways and has a huge conservative bias. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 07/23/20 11:48:45 AM #8: |
papercup posted...
2016 had exceptionally low voter turnout. Unless the gop really supresses the vote this year, I don't see that happening again.Corona virus is the best excuse for suppression they've had in years. Prediction: It's going to be blatant on a scale not seen since the 19th century. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 07/23/20 11:48:52 AM #9: |
papercup posted...
2016 had exceptionally low voter turnout. Unless the gop really supresses the vote this year, I don't see that happening again.They have this handy tool called a global pandemic to scare voters and especially poll workers (who tend to be elderly, cause younger people don't have the free time for it) away, and likely reducing polling stations that are open. They realize they have this incredible opportunity (you know, the thing empathetic and decent people consider a crisis) and are fighting tooth and nail to prevent mail in ballots so they can exploit it for all it's worth. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 12:33:33 PM #10: |
Are these pollsters actually polling people like Lester from Alabama though because that's where trump won last time and I really don't think most of these polls get a full accurate representation of the American public
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faramir77 07/23/20 12:35:07 PM #11: |
Someone educate me. Are US general elections not run by independent third party?
Canadian elections, even at the provincial level, are facilitated by Elections Canada. If this was an election year, you can guarantee there would be either an increase in voting stations to minimize contact, or an expansion of mail ballots, to keep people safe. No political party can intervene with Elections Canada. There is no excuse for accommodations to not be ready for the fall US election. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/23/20 12:39:42 PM #12: |
faramir77 posted...
There is no excuse for accommodations to not be ready for the fall US election. yet they totally wont be --- The Betrayer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superdreamkilla 07/23/20 12:55:49 PM #13: |
Support Ulfric or die trying! Nothing in-between!
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papercup 07/23/20 6:24:48 PM #14: |
OhhhJa posted...
Are these pollsters actually polling people like Lester from Alabama though because that's where trump won last time and I really don't think most of these polls get a full accurate representation of the American public https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/politics/2020-polls-republicans/index.html Yes --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/23/20 6:35:07 PM #15: |
Can't let polls make people complacent. It's going to take everyone to get that sack of shit out of office.
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ComradeSeraphim 07/23/20 6:45:29 PM #16: |
argonautweakend posted...
Despite the right wing talking point about Trump uniting us, he hasn't actually gained many fans since his election.Oh, Trump is definitely uniting America, just not around himself. America is becoming united against Trump and his ilk. --- TaintedSeraphim is now ComradeSeraphim ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/23/20 6:46:41 PM #17: |
Judgmenl posted...
Now Biden is ~+8 over Trump and no pollster has Trump beating Biden. Not really. 2016 was the culmination of an anti-establishment movement and Hillary was a decidedly establishment candidate (as would have been Biden at that point). It was less about Hillary than it was about the establishment and, of course, the traditional swing of the pendulum. That said, polls favored Hillary back then and polls favor Biden today. None of that may mean shit in November. And, more importantly, nationwide polls are a completely moronic metric for a nation with an electoral college. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kukukupo 07/23/20 6:52:55 PM #18: |
Don't care about polls.
Once again, we have to chose between two awful candidates. Doesn't really matter which wins, IMO. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/23/20 6:55:05 PM #19: |
kukukupo posted...
Doesn't really matter which wins, IMO. Then you clearly dont pay enough attention --- The Betrayer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 07/23/20 6:56:27 PM #20: |
kukukupo posted...
Don't care about polls. You really want 4 more years of this shit? Honestly, this choice is easy. I'd vote against Trump every time. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/23/20 6:58:40 PM #21: |
kukukupo posted...
Don't care about polls. lol yes it does. I really does matter this time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KnoxKorner 07/23/20 7:01:33 PM #22: |
papercup posted...
You really want 4 more years of this shit? Honestly, this choice is easy. I'd vote against Trump every time. What the left will stop throwing bitch fits all the time? --- In November of 2006 three P/C posters disappeared in the woods near Caver Ted's Caves, while LARPing...A year later their weblog was found.-PC board. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sahuagin 07/23/20 7:01:54 PM #23: |
it's a shame that you're basically in the exact same situation: anti-establishment clown VS pro-establishment puppet
your political system is so messed up that you're literally electing what you perceive as the lesser of two evils, with the most recent evil being perceived as the greater evil are you guys ever going to fix things? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 07/23/20 7:38:59 PM #24: |
KnoxKorner posted...
What the left will stop throwing bitch fits all the time? I'm a republican lol --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 07/23/20 7:57:45 PM #25: |
I can't imagine any action more reprehensible than voting for the side that doesn't want to gun down protesters in the street
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Mead 07/23/20 8:03:57 PM #26: |
KnoxKorner posted...
What the left will stop throwing bitch fits all the time? conservatives are literally bitching and crying over the fact that they cant go into Walmart without wearing a piece of cloth over their mouth --- The Betrayer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lovemachine 07/23/20 8:13:30 PM #27: |
In 2016 for 4 months the entire internet and all polls were 1000% certain Trump would lose, how can you cite history yet make this exact mistake again.
Here's a prospect for you: The only people who overly indulge in news and find it relative to participate in polls are usually a specific social group, which is exactly why main stream media leans a specific way. Surely there can't be people voting on the Fox poll saying they're republican when they're not, right!? The group of people obsessing over news and to have their opinions heard don't represent your average American. This bs is moot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 8:16:18 PM #28: |
papercup posted...
I'm a republican lolYou keep saying this and I have a hard time believing it. Are you republican like Zeus is left leaning centrist? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 07/23/20 8:16:34 PM #29: |
lovemachine posted...
In 2016 for 4 months the entire internet and all polls were 1000% certain Trump would lose, how can you cite history yet make this exact mistake again.This is false. Please let smarter posters continue the discussion without you, you're hurting your own side. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sahuagin 07/23/20 8:30:34 PM #30: |
lovemachine posted...
In 2016 for 4 months the entire internet and all polls were 1000% certain Trump would lose, how can you cite history yet make this exact mistake again."mainstream media" was saying that, only because they're establishment propaganda machines pushing the establishment candidate. in reality, there were lots of people that hated both candidates to varying degrees, with a lot of "trump is bad but hillary is worse" sentiments. (keeping in mind that IIRC trump still only barely won.) this time, the amount of "trump is bad but not as bad as" opinions are almost non-existent compared to the amount of "anything but trump" opinions. I think it matters how much one side wants their voice heard, too (so, voting rates). this time there's going to be a *lot* of people that will be doing all they can to keep trump out, which is basically the opposite of last time (when there were lots of people doing all they could to keep hillary out). --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 8:35:49 PM #31: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
This is false. Please let smarter posters continue the discussion without you, you're hurting your own side.I'm sure polls were out there that said otherwise but you wouldn't know that watching any mainstream news source near the election then. The media was pushing trump was gonna lose hard. I think they were trying to dissuade people from bothering to go out and vote trump but instead made people not bother voting for Hillary because her victory was all but secured ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 8:36:53 PM #32: |
its actually kinda funny that trump might lose this time even with Biden being easily 10 times worse than Hillary at a bare minimum
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Judgmenl 07/23/20 8:47:12 PM #33: |
OhhhJa posted...
its actually kinda funny that trump might lose this time even with Biden being easily 10 times worse than Hillary at a bare minimumNah. Very few people are worse than Killary. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emagdnE 07/23/20 8:49:02 PM #34: |
Not only did 2016 prove polls are worthless, we're months away from the election and the general election hasn't even kicked off yet.
As soon as Biden is officially nominated and the Democrats can't take it back, the GOP propaganda machine is going to blast Biden so hard there won't even be ashes left. For this time, they won't need to make up conspiracy bullshit like they did with Hillary. They have a very devastating weapon they've rarely gotten to use before: the truth. The truth..... that Biden absolutely is an awful human being, massive corporate whore, and has a voting record that includes pushing the bills that led to why the protests are happening, voting against desegregation, voting against gay rights, and so forth. And his primary message of wanting to work with Republicans while the Republicans themselves are going "lolnope" and people are wising up to how Republicans are actively trying to kill us is..... super bad. Trump is everything the right ever wanted. But Biden is absolutely nothing the left wants. And elections are glorified popularity contests. "She's not Trump" didn't work for Hillary. "He's not Bush" didn't work for Kerry. WHY would "He's not Trump" work for the fucking moron who just said there were no racist presidents before 2016 after weeks of being absent?! --- I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy... All right, give me the bomb. -Ultra Magnus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/23/20 9:01:25 PM #35: |
emagdnE posted...
Not only did 2016 prove polls are worthless Always confused when people say this. Hillary won the popular vote like the polls suggested. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 9:01:30 PM #36: |
Judgmenl posted...
Nah. Very few people are worse than Killary.I mean, Biden and Hillary are virtually the same candidate except that biden is WAY less capable as a public speaker and is on video creepily touching on women and children ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWorstPoster 07/23/20 9:01:49 PM #37: |
emagdnE posted...
Not only did 2016 prove polls are worthless, we're months away from the election and the general election hasn't even kicked off yet. I would LOVE to see Joe Biden even attempt to live this down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-YjGmpO4Q ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 9:02:09 PM #38: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Always confused when people say this. Hillary won the popular vote like the polls suggested.Barely. By the way most polls were presented, it was gonna be a landslide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 07/23/20 9:03:08 PM #39: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Always confused when people say this. Hillary won the popular vote like the polls suggested. Her votes didnt slot up in the right areas to give her the victory, but yeah 3 million more votes is kinda what the polls DID predict. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/23/20 9:09:46 PM #40: |
OhhhJa posted...
Barely. By the way most polls were presented, it was gonna be a landslide Polling was all over the place with her winning by 3-5 and while 5 could have been considering a land slide I think 3.5 was the average. She won by 2.1 The big difference I'm seeing looking at this polling is the 3rd party candidates drastically under performing compared to what the polling suggested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 07/23/20 9:18:34 PM #41: |
Yup. I voted for Gary Johnson. He was the only decent person running that year. At some points, he was polling near 10%, but ended up getting like 3%.
Being the Libertarian candidate and a former Republican mayor, his supporters although bipartisan were definitely majority-conservative. Fucking liars and cowards bailed on him and voted for Trump by wide margins. I have no sympathy for those who claim they don't like Trump, but they're conservative, so they "didn't have a choice". Fuck you, yes you did. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/20 10:03:13 PM #42: |
OhhhJa posted...
I mean, Biden and Hillary are virtually the same candidate except that biden is WAY less capable as a public speaker and is on video creepily touching on women and childrenNo I don't think you get it. I tried to listen to the recent interview she did on Trevor Noah, and I lasted less than 10 seconds. I can listen to Joe talk for hours. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 07/23/20 10:04:54 PM #43: |
Biden used to have the best memes.
Now he IS a meme. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 07/23/20 10:06:26 PM #44: |
I know I liked the one meme I saw ages ago. The one rapper that had the lyrics "need yo body, want yo body" but it sounded like "nee joebide" "wan joebideh"
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OhhhJa 07/23/20 10:09:28 PM #45: |
Judgmenl posted...
I can listen to Joe talk for hours.Well, he is definitely entertaining. I thoroughly enjoyed his rambling about roaches and kids jumping on his lap ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zebatov 07/23/20 10:19:47 PM #46: |
Judgmenl posted...
Now Biden is ~+8 over Trump and no pollster has Trump beating Biden. Cant even tell which one youre talking about. --- C was right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 07/23/20 10:44:49 PM #47: |
Judgmenl posted...
I can listen to Joe talk for hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4NmtSrqtvI --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/20 10:51:04 PM #48: |
Joe Biden has dyslexia.
Most recent Biden video I've watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAgj12ElyYE Seemed fine there. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 07/23/20 10:51:05 PM #49: |
I fucking knew it would be the Corn Pop story
What a fucking legend lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 07/23/20 10:52:22 PM #50: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
I fucking knew it would be the Corn Pop story Corn Pop was a bad dude. And he ran a bad bunch of boys. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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