Current Events > no rich dipshit should ever get to say what poor people deserve

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Paper_Okami
07/22/20 6:10:04 PM
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"15 dollar minimum wage is too much" says asshole worth 100 million

no, it's not nearly enough

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Zephyran
07/22/20 6:10:44 PM
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You know why they say it, giving people a better wage means it cuts into their wallets

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Dos_Pac
07/22/20 6:12:08 PM
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Then nobody benefits because they raise prices to make up for peoples wages.

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KnightofShikari
07/22/20 6:12:17 PM
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the rich dipshits just dictate what the poor get though. they don't need to even say anything

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kingdrake2
07/22/20 6:19:11 PM
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wage goes up. everything else goes up plenty more than the gains.
never seems to balance itself out :(.
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g980
07/22/20 6:37:05 PM
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I dont think we should silence anyone based on their socioeconomic status


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Guide
07/22/20 6:40:31 PM
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g980 posted...
I dont think we should silence anyone based on their socioeconomic status

If English isn't your first language, the "get to say" in the topic title means that person shouldn't have control; they can still speak freely.

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g980
07/22/20 6:43:06 PM
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Guide posted...
If English isn't your first language, the "get to say" in the topic title means that person shouldn't have control; they can still speak freely.

No single person should nor does have that control, so i'm not sure the topic title is saying anything

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Unite
07/22/20 6:45:06 PM
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do they not raise the minimum wage every few years in USA?
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Paper_Okami
07/22/20 6:46:45 PM
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productivity frequently reaches no highs, rent keeps going up, things keep costing more, and wages have been stagnant since the 70s

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Guide
07/22/20 6:47:57 PM
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g980 posted...
No single person should nor does have that control, so i'm not sure the topic title is saying anything

I apologize for how awful English is, but it doesn't necessarily specify a single person, either. For example, "no x should ever" as a statement applies to all x, not just one particular x.

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SocksForWokMAX2
07/22/20 6:51:38 PM
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$15/hr isnt enough for what?
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Austin_Era_II
07/22/20 6:53:11 PM
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Maybe the rich guy isn't referring to his business, but factoring in that many small businesses typically pay min wage so it would be hurting them.

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nemu
07/22/20 6:53:43 PM
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I don't get why we're so stuck on $15 in the first place. I feel like the conversation would be a lot better if there was at least some middle ground discussion. It also seems like people are working on a faulty premise because barely anyone is working full time on the extreme low end minimum wage in the first place, and there are plenty of states with more reasonable minimum wages.
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g980
07/22/20 6:56:19 PM
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Guide posted...
I apologize for how awful English is, but it doesn't necessarily specify a single person, either. For example, "no x should ever" as a statement applies to all x, not just one particular x.

So what exactly do you think tc is trying to say

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Paper_Okami
07/22/20 6:58:53 PM
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nemu posted...
there are plenty of states with more reasonable minimum wages.

there is not a single state where even 15 dollars is a reasonable wage


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Prismsblade
07/22/20 6:59:20 PM
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Unite posted...
do they not raise the minimum wage every few years in USA?
It varies by state, but ultimately irrelevant becuase almost nobody is living on minimum wage.

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I Like Toast
07/22/20 7:00:02 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...


no, it's not nearly enough
Lol

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Balrog0
07/22/20 7:01:48 PM
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I mean, when I share my unpopular among lefties opinions (like unpaid internships are okay) and share my background, generally it isn't like 'oh a poor person has a different perspective, let's listen' it's more 'oh so you had to deal with some terrible stuff and now you think everyone should'

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R1masher
07/22/20 7:09:29 PM
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As a rich dipshit Im offended that you think I cant have a say

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g980
07/22/20 8:01:37 PM
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Hot take: a person's background can provide context to their opinions, but is never enough to invalidate it on its own. If their background truly disqualifies them, then it should be provable by addressing their arguments directly.

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Paper_Okami
07/22/20 8:03:56 PM
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the only answer they have would be related to greed, they would just word it differently and much longer

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FortuneCookie
07/22/20 8:05:16 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
"15 dollar minimum wage is too much" says asshole worth 100 million

no, it's not nearly enough

But then he'd only be a 99 million dollar asshole and what would he do then? :v

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Zikten
07/22/20 8:09:10 PM
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Zephyran posted...
You know why they say it, giving people a better wage means it cuts into their wallets

this. the rich people feel bad for the boss that has to pay the workers that much. that's who they sympathize with not the workers
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